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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Although i can't help but notice the shades are being shown in the smaller pots rather than the current bigger ones.

They look like they're in the 18ml Contrast pots and not the 12ml paint pots the shades previously came in.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Although i can't help but notice the shades are being shown in the smaller pots rather than the current bigger ones.

They look like they're in the 18ml Contrast pots and not the 12ml paint pots the shades previously came in.

But the current ones come in 24ml, so...

Hmm. Well, not exactly a huge reveal, but fine.

More blue and green contrast definitely good as those are currently some of the weakest. Asurmen blue in particular looks good, though several of the others don't look that different to the current ones, or indeed that constrast-y.

I've already bought some AP speed paints to fill in colour gaps in contrast though, and I prefer them for the actual one-coat work (as opposed to blending), so I'm not seeing anything in here or the new shades that fills a current need for me personally.

Soulblight grey and a smooth pure white primer would be nice for World Eaters (apothecary is pretty grey) - but I've already got an airbrush and oil washes, so I'm good.

It's going to be a loooong time before I use up my current shades - and they already work well with a bit of contrast medium to add crevice-seeking - but hopefully we'll see some reviews.


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 Albertorius wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Although i can't help but notice the shades are being shown in the smaller pots rather than the current bigger ones.

They look like they're in the 18ml Contrast pots and not the 12ml paint pots the shades previously came in.

But the current ones come in 24ml, so...

Bet you the new 18ml price is the same or higher as when they bumped em to 24ml though.

More paints is always good but losing Cryptek Armourshade is odd the other 3 at least have non-gloss versions. I rely on Cryptek for my Hedonites scheme so I've just ordered a few bottles.

I know Imperial Fists are very popular these days but three new yellows seems a bit extreme? Especially when they barely look any different to Iyanden and Nazdreg. The purples similarly don't look drastically different; Leviathan Purple looks identical to Magos Purple? By comparison, there's only one orange being added.

Garaghak’s Sewer actually looks quite good. Probably the only standout to me. Ratling Grime is is probably going to get slapped onto a lot of terrain pieces as well.

I’ll be particularly interested in the Beserker Blood shade; I’ve yet to find a good way of shading red.

 Jadenim wrote:
I’ll be particularly interested in the Beserker Blood shade; I’ve yet to find a good way of shading red.

Same here!

Was thinking about to use that Shade for my HH Word Bearer I plan when HH gets a propper Starter Set.

Dudeface wrote:
And a ninja end of range in a pear tree "* The four gloss shades – Nuln Oil Gloss, Agrax Earthshade Gloss, Reikland Fleshshade Gloss, and Cryptek Armourshade Gloss – are leaving the range"

Which is sad because these were really nice for metallics. I guess they sold poorly though because they couldn't be really applied on normal paints without needing to matte varnish over everything you did and hoping for the best.

Soulblight looks like easy one step solution for painting white hair/aquilas, need to try this.

jullevi wrote:
Once again GW advertises Contrast paints with horrible paint jobs

Counterpoint - yes, experienced painter can easily make Contrast look much better. However, WC is targeted at new painters and trying to show them expert finish would backfire as a lot of them would be upset when their effort looks nothing like that and would accuse GW of false advertising or photoshopping. Better to show casual effort and just assume better painters know to ignore these pictures anyway.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
1) A lot of those don't seem meaningfully different from the existing Contrast range, it's just name bloat

Like what?

SamusDrake wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:


What do you mean 'quick weathering effects'. Weathering effects' are in this sense the proverbial length of string... Limitless.

Weathering would be nice, but hardly groundbreaking as most weathering products already exist, made by much bigger players than gw, plus the video showed nice shiny parade ground armour.

I'm wondering whether its simply a new range of colours, maybe with additional inks for intensity, some new washes etc. Who knows.

As in armour thats taken a beating; scratches, chips and dirt. I've yet to come across such a thing save for lengthy painting tutorials on Youtube, although I wouldn't mind a point in the right direction all the same.

That's what I mean. Weathering could go from the simple sponge dabbed dark brown for chipping, all the way to oil washes and filters, streaking enamels, hair spray or salt chipping, flake paint etc.

 Irbis wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
1) A lot of those don't seem meaningfully different from the existing Contrast range, it's just name bloat

Like what?

Like Pylar Glacier, Kroxigor, Frostheart and Aethermatic Blue all seem to be the exact same pigment in different concentrations.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Although i can't help but notice the shades are being shown in the smaller pots rather than the current bigger ones.

They look like they're in the 18ml Contrast pots and not the 12ml paint pots the shades previously came in.

But the current ones come in 24ml, so...

Yes? They're still not in the smaller 12ml pots that they originally came in.

 Arbitrator wrote:

Garaghak’s Sewer actually looks quite good. Probably the only standout to me.

Yes, looks like NMM bronze in a bottle in the same way Basilicanum is NMM steel and Nazdreg is NMM gold.

chaos0xomega wrote:
GW sales rep for local store told them a couple weeks ago that paint was coming in dropper bottles soon. I expect this is where thats heading.

What's that local store's sales rep got to say about adding a bunch of new colors and showing them in pots? Is GW putting out a bunch of new products in old pot containers, so they can just go back and switch it out for dropper bottles? Or is this reveal incorrect showing pots when it should be dropper bottles?

Looks like I wasn't too far off the mark. I'm interested in the purples for my emperor's children, although my current method of using artists ink to super saturate the purple/pink works fine and they last forever, so I'll see.

RazorEdge wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
I’ll be particularly interested in the Beserker Blood shade; I’ve yet to find a good way of shading red.

Same here!

Was thinking about to use that Shade for my HH Word Bearer I plan when HH gets a propper Starter Set.

Waiting on a review of how those go over other colours than white.
For the contrast, that’s fine I want to see it over white.
But the shades I want over existing colours.

Bloodshade might be one I pick up, Koran Green looks more me for Nurgle related washing rather than the Poxwalker shade. (Though I use that Camoshade to good effect currently).


For me of the new Contrast. Garaghak’s Sewer is a clear winner.
Really like how that looks to be coming out.

Maybe a yellow too, Grime, Celestium Blue as mentioned prior by someone for UM shading, Glacier looks great as an ice look, maybe a few other randoms from what’s there..

Nice, I'm starting a new army for the first time in forever so this is as good an excuse as any to try contrast for the first time.
Outside of colours I'd want for my paint scheme, Pylar Glacier looks the most interesting. Very nice affect created.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
1) A lot of those don't seem meaningfully different from the existing Contrast range, it's just name bloat

Like what?

Like Pylar Glacier, Kroxigor, Frostheart and Aethermatic Blue all seem to be the exact same pigment in different concentrations.

Kroxigor and Frostheart look nothing alike. Almost green next to blue.
Frostheart I could see being less watered Glacier though yeah.

Agreed Garaghak’s Sewer is the winner, and some lovely greens. The rest is either not meaningfully distinct from old colors (all the blues), literally just diluted versions of old colors, or is flat with no actual shade/highlight on the model (yellows, reds and purples)

Yeah I’ll buy that sewer on release and find several uses for it.
Even as a wash like over metal or something. Not even sure yet but I like it

Hmm, that's uh, 5 yellow contrast paints? Do we really need that?

Like the grey shade though, that's nice although it kinda does the same thing as apothecary white?

 Oguhmek wrote:
Hmm, that's uh, 5 yellow contrast paints? Do we really need that?

Like the grey shade though, that's nice although it kinda does the same thing as apothecary white?

A lot can vary with contrast, especially based on the colour that settles into the cracks. The current one is very powerfully orangy/red. By changing that shade that settles they can likely get a lot of mileage out of the "same colour" for very different effects and uses .

 Oguhmek wrote:
Hmm, that's uh, 5 yellow contrast paints? Do we really need that?

Like the grey shade though, that's nice although it kinda does the same thing as apothecary white?

There is a bit of a consistency and flow difference between a contrast and a wash though, so it'll sit differently from my experience.

 Oguhmek wrote:
Hmm, that's uh, 5 yellow contrast paints? Do we really need that?

Like the grey shade though, that's nice although it kinda does the same thing as apothecary white?

I think Apothecary White has a very slight blue tint to it, whilst Soulblight Grey seems like more of a... well, grey.

deano2099 wrote:Best part of the gloss shades is they stained less and went more into the recesses. Then you can matt varnish them. If the reformulated shades do this anyway without the gloss effect then they're really not needed anymore.

edit - realised this hasn't been mentioned on the thread yet - all the existing shades have been reformulated

This is a big thing and I'm actually more interested in it than the new Contrast paints. The new washes appear to settle more into the recesses and stain the raised surfaces less than the current line, while still having similarly smooth gradients. I could definitely be interested in GW washes again if they all behave like that.

I'm hoping the new formula for the existing shades makes them act like the gloss shades. Looks like they might from the previews of the new shades, but if not it's time to hunt through other lines again. I found them quite handy for painting metals and at the time nothing else I tried settled in quite the same way.

Lots of nice new colors with the new paints. Eager to give some of them a try.

trying to differentiate the washes and shades more hecontrastades already kinda did what contrast does, just not as well or as evenly/heavily, etc. I/ appear the intent here is for shades to provide a more definitive shading effect with little/no tintin of raised/unshaded surfaces, whereas the intent is that contrast tints the entire surface.

Where this kinda falls apart is that the effects produced by briar queen chill and pylar glacier look more like the effects of a shade than they do a contrast paint, and Berserker Bloodshade looks more like a contrast.

 BrookM wrote:
Removal of the gloss shades isn't that surprising, they've not been as useful or great as their regular counterparts.

They're fantastic over metals that you're looking to keep shiny.

 gorgon wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Removal of the gloss shades isn't that surprising, they've not been as useful or great as their regular counterparts.

They're fantastic over metals that you're looking to keep shiny.

They always just look like they are still wet to me, I've never been a fan of the gloss shades without applying a matt finish after they have dried.

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I'm very excited about the new Shades, it looks like they are more of a match for the OOP Devlan mud-era Washes, in that they sink into the crevices and don't tint the raised areas much. The current GW Shades tend to tint everytjing a little too evenly.

The new grey wash and dark red wash are must-buys, as are Gargagarrkkhhs Sewer, Sigvald Burgundy and Dreadful Visage ( )

 Ghaz wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Although i can't help but notice the shades are being shown in the smaller pots rather than the current bigger ones.

They look like they're in the 18ml Contrast pots and not the 12ml paint pots the shades previously came in.

But the current ones come in 24ml, so...

Yes? They're still not in the smaller 12ml pots that they originally came in.

Seeing as it's been years they've been sold in 12ml pots, how does that matter?

If they move from 24ml pots to 18ml pots... well, they better be cheaper.