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And one more roll needed, as I’ve 20 Maureen’s and only 10 of each weapon.

Re-roll a 6 of course.


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Wait, change 8 to Plasma Guns!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And one more roll needed, as I’ve 20 Maureen’s and only 10 of each weapon.

Re-roll a 6 of course.

Rolled you a 7 this time.
Got a spare rhino? Coz those multi-meltas are gonna need a ride!

Wait, change 8 to Plasma Guns!

I should have fudged the roll just to make you build them.

I do indeed have Rhinos!

Honestly, you probably don't need 10 of them with multimeltas. 5 mounted in a rhino should be sufficient to slag most non-lord of wars in a turn of shooting, especially once within armourbane range. And a turn of shooting is all you're likely to get though as once they're out of the rhino they'll be dead by the end of your opponents following turn if he has any common sense.


EDIT: Nyeah maybe you'd need more then 5. I realised I was conflating multi-meltas with Gravis multimeltas, which are two shots each. A full squad is probably a good idea then.
If you really want to be sure of your kill, put a signum wielding techmarine with them so they hit on 2+.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And one more roll needed, as I’ve 20 Maureen’s and only 10 of each weapon.

Re-roll a 6 of course.

Go with rotor cannons!

Much as folk scorn Rotor Cannons? With plastic Tech Thralls coming pretty soon, they may just prove their worth!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Much as folk scorn Rotor Cannons? With plastic Tech Thralls coming pretty soon, they may just prove their worth!

Maybe, but they look very cool, and I am adding a squad of them to my Space Wolves purely for that reason.

I actually played a game a few months back, me and another player teamed up against a guy running solar aux. 4k pts per side. He had a unit of rotor cannon armed Veletaris that blitzed 7 out of 10 lascannon HSS marines in a single round of shooting. Now true that's statistically not great odds when you're dealing with a 3+/5+ and then a 3+ save, but the dice turned against us and we watched these marines just get ventilated by a wall of S3 shots. He couldn't even return fire as we'd used both shooting reactions.
There's a lot to be said about weight of fire!

Very true. But with Heavy Bolter Heavy 4 in Heresy, they feel a better all purpose “where’s your girly infantry then” type weapon.

Where the Rotor Cannon really come into their own is Pinning with Shell Shock.

Not something I’d rely on against other Astartes, but against proper horde infantry potentially heavily game influencing.

Agreed on both counts. Heavy bolters might be a better all round weapon, but pinning and shell-shock are definitely not to be underestimated.
And in the hands of a Night Lords Terror squad, made even worse, if I've got my rules right.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Very true. But with Heavy Bolter Heavy 4 in Heresy, they feel a better all purpose “where’s your girly infantry then” type weapon.

Where the Rotor Cannon really come into their own is Pinning with Shell Shock.

Not something I’d rely on against other Astartes, but against proper horde infantry potentially heavily game influencing.

Well, let's do le math, Pinning is a moral check on LD 7 on average, assuming you got one or the other nemisis sniper around to pick off a sarge. Shell shock is -1. So LD 6. 2D6 average is 7. It's a combined arms weapon with a high firerate and assault.

Plus, as one to cast my fate into the hands of the Dice Gods? Rotor Cannons don’t need a particularly big shift in average to be surprisingly killy.

Spesh with Assault!

There’s also the mental image of 10 Astartes just casually walking about, fingers firmly pressed, spitting out a ridiculous amount of firepower which just tickles me.

Got my first actual game of 30k in yesterday. I've a friend with some interest in a town about an hour away, so I put together a pair of lists and brought two armies for us to use.



Was an incredibly close game, basically coming down to the dreadnought I finished building just the night prior. Who I'm bloody terrified to transport, because good god I fear that flail chain is going to break.

Haha - it looks as though the whippy sticks are holding back the World Eaters...

Good to see an 'old school' Land Raider on the table. I have one in my Heresy Space Wolves - it's still my favourite Marine vehicle. I see them quite a lot in battle reports online, and it's reassuring that people seem to accept them in Heresy.

 Snord wrote:
Haha - it looks as though the whippy sticks are holding back the World Eaters...

Good to see an 'old school' Land Raider on the table. I have one in my Heresy Space Wolves - it's still my favourite Marine vehicle. I see them quite a lot in battle reports online, and it's reassuring that people seem to accept them in Heresy.

Agree about the land raider, a classic design that lore wise was 100% in use at the time. Also are those old school mk1 rhinos i spy!

Despite the oppressive humidity (and its effect on my primer), I’ve been doing some test painting for the Heresy Ultramarines. Having built a few LI vehicles (which confirmed that I don’t want to do any more of them!), I have used them as test models. The prescribed colours for WH40k Ultras look too grey, so I went for richer blue tones. Here is the result of a fairly quick application of the basic colours and intended weathering. Annoyingly, the iPad camera has slightly lightened everything, and added a slight greenish tone to some of the highlights, but hopefully you get the idea. Would this work for ‘proper’ Heresy models?

Y'all be pulling my leg calling the Phobos "old school" right?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all be pulling my leg calling the Phobos "old school" right?

Given that the kit is now 25 years old (and the original RT-era Land Raider has long been unavailable), I think of it as old school.

 Snord wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Y'all be pulling my leg calling the Phobos "old school" right?

Given that the kit is now 25 years old (and the original RT-era Land Raider has long been unavailable), I think of it as old school.

EBay, any day of the week.... Though presently most are waaay overpriced.

As for "old school"? Hardly. It's the 40k kit that's still in production!

Currently basing 95 solar aux infantry....

Actually does anybody know if solar auxilia used rhinos? I want to fully mechanise my force but the dracosan is... well the dracosan and the current aurox is overpriced by a factor of 80%.



Angry khornate firemen minions.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Angry khornate firemen minions.

It's a very strong colour scheme - I like the dark metallic red. I think they need a contrasting colour on the bases.

Agreed, those look amazing on their own but gonna need something to "pop" on the table.

Been on a big dread push. 4 out of 6 contemptors are built (3 of those are magnetized) and ready for priming. Currently working on the base for the 5th, which I think is coming along very nicely.




Dreads themselves, as well as some red-hand destroyers, are up on the blog; as I don't want to dump 20 pictures in this thread.

I checked out your blog. You seemed to have learned 'on the job' pretty quickly. I like the Contemptors - they look suitably deranged and blood-frenzied, especially with the Leviathan claws. If the disemboweled Contemptor in the photos is going on one of the bases, that's going to be quite a tall model...

That looks like a future very angry contemptor

I've put them on the painting desk. There's no way back now.



(arms are droopy because they're blu-tacked for now)

how much rockets do you need?
Blackfang: YES.

Boxnaughts are bestnaughts.

Love the boxes. Especially the missle heavy ones.

 Snrub wrote:
Boxnaughts are bestnaughts.

Why…what’s this is my back pocket?

Goodness! It’s the mouth-scrubbing-brush! See its solid wooden handle. See the slightly gleaming somewhat rusty steel bristles.

C’mere you, its Education Time!