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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Bruh whaaat

New plastics, yes-yes, we like-like.

That makes this whole project about 500% more interesting than i thought it could be.

Did... did people really think there wouldn't be any plastic releases?

I confess that I thought this was always going to be entirely in plastic.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Did... did people really think there wouldn't be any plastic releases?

We did have absolutely no basis to say anything at all about new plastics with certainty - it was very, very likely that there would be, but having confirmation still quells a lot of fears people semi-reasonably had.

*goes back to his forests, waiting for news on the Asrai*

Congrats to Tomb Kings and Bretonnia though, I guess?

Le Hype.
How long was it between the teaser of SoB such as this (banners, helmets, ect.) and the actual release?
I’m trying to guesstimate how long until we see something akin to a full preview.

Definitely the most interesting reveal so far, I think. It shows that the Old World isn't some small project like many have been going on about for ages.

New plastic kits means it's not a small specialist game thing, Tomb Kings indicates it's not limited to the Empire area of the Map / Specifically "The Old World", and that they're entirely new models means there's more to it than just re-releasing old kits again.

They are gonna sell a lot of new plastic Brets.

Tsagualsa wrote:
The most important sentence in that whole affair:

In today’s article we’re visiting the armouries of the Old World and giving you a first look at some of the weapons and wargear that can be found in the brand new plastic kits coming for the Kingdom of Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings of Khemri.

Gob thoroughly smacked.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
Le Hype.
How long was it between the teaser of SoB such as this (banners, helmets, ect.) and the actual release?
I’m trying to guesstimate how long until we see something akin to a full preview.

SoB had their first CAD reveal at the Adepticon 2018 Studio Seminar and their Codex release in November 2019

About a year, buuuuuuuuuuut they don't have to be posting the previews as soon as they start the work.

The SoB bulletin seemed to be months after that work was done.

Wow!

It’s happening, tomb kings are happening.
There is much hope.

I am betting for autumn, this year.

Does none else think that the Bretonnian stuff is just kind of boring? There's not much on the way of detail and the helmet crests are pretty much the same designs we had before. The shields also look exactly like the old ones with no added details. Keeping the face of the shields bare is sensible, but there are no nicks or dents no lady's favours hanging off the shields and barely any variation in the shapes of the shields. The swords are also all prestine with a pretty uniform design. The only nice touch I liked is the key hanging on one arm. I don't need oddles of detail but for a preview showing off a first look at new minis, I expected more. The Tomb King stuff is much better.

 stahly wrote:
New PLASTIC Tomb Kings and Bretonnian models. Can't believe it.

Yep its a pretty amazing reveal- new designs and that they are going to be in plastic! Thats a good sign for the future of the Old World.

 Sotahullu wrote:
I am betting for autumn, this year.

If the rumour mill is not extremely, bafflingly mislead we'll get a new edition of Warhammer 40k in late june/early july, which would pretty much rule out another major game release before christmas at the earliest. Wh40k is their crown jewel and their main moneymaker, they would not risk another game 'stealing' the spotlight close after a new edition.

if it is like the others with a year until model release
it would fit the rumours for a rules release end of 2023, and first army books and new models early 2024

I wonder if those flying rodent gak Bretonnian vs Tomb King starter rumours were actually true? (...or more realistically someone heard about Brets and TK being made in plastic and the rumour sprang from there).

Either way, plastic kits for some of the least popular ranges bodes very well for the scope of TOW and how much of it will be in plastic.

 kodos wrote:
if it is like the others with a year until model release
it would fit the rumours for a rules release end of 2023, and first army books and new models early 2024

I think they'd want to have at least a book and limited edition book/box release in 2023 for marketing reasons, it's the year of Warhammer's 40th birthday after all, and then the start of the main bulk of releases in 2024.

Chikout wrote:
Does none else think that the Bretonnian stuff is just kind of boring? There's not much on the way of detail and the helmet crests are pretty much the same designs we had before. The shields also look exactly like the old ones with no added details. Keeping the face of the shields bare is sensible, but there are no nicks or dents no lady's favours hanging off the shields and barely any variation in the shapes of the shields. The swords are also all prestine with a pretty uniform design. The only nice touch I liked is the key hanging on one arm. I don't need oddles of detail but for a preview showing off a first look at new minis, I expected more. The Tomb King stuff is much better.

I understand what you mean, but they're established designs. I don't think changing the basic elements of them would be an overly good idea especially when something like TW:W has the classic look still, but some more optional accessores would be good.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Definitely the most interesting reveal so far, I think. It shows that the Old World isn't some small project like many have been going on about for ages.

New plastic kits means it's not a small specialist game thing, Tomb Kings indicates it's not limited to the Empire area of the Map / Specifically "The Old World", and that they're entirely new models means there's more to it than just re-releasing old kits again.

Those small specialist games have also got new plastic so...

Tsagualsa wrote:
The most important sentence in that whole affair:

In today’s article we’re visiting the armouries of the Old World and giving you a first look at some of the weapons and wargear that can be found in the brand new plastic kits coming for the Kingdom of Bretonnia and the Tomb Kings of Khemri.

Absolutely. I am beyond hyped.

Chikout wrote:
Does none else think that the Bretonnian stuff is just kind of boring? There's not much on the way of detail and the helmet crests are pretty much the same designs we had before. The shields also look exactly like the old ones with no added details. Keeping the face of the shields bare is sensible, but there are no nicks or dents no lady's favours hanging off the shields and barely any variation in the shapes of the shields. The swords are also all prestine with a pretty uniform design. The only nice touch I liked is the key hanging on one arm. I don't need oddles of detail but for a preview showing off a first look at new minis, I expected more. The Tomb King stuff is much better.

Whereas I hope that the kopeshs are specifically the super fancy royal variety the normal soldiery doesn't get their hands on. I'd prefer if the kopesh design remains the same or at least a recognizable update of what we used to have. The previewed weapons are a bit much in my opinion.

I'm glad for new kits, though.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
I am betting for autumn, this year.

If the rumour mill is not extremely, bafflingly mislead we'll get a new edition of Warhammer 40k in late june/early july, which would pretty much rule out another major game release before christmas at the earliest. Wh40k is their crown jewel and their main moneymaker, they would not risk another game 'stealing' the spotlight close after a new edition.

The longest a new edition rollout has been drawn out was 9th ed due to Covid, concluding around October. A new edition summer release doesn't get in the way of a November specialist game release. Which is not to say that it's definitely this year, but a new 40k edition this year is not a mark against it.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Did... did people really think there wouldn't be any plastic releases?

I definitely had concerns. As someone who doesn't buy resin kits, I am still worried that the heroes and other key models may be resin rather than plastic.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
New plastic kits means it's not a small specialist game thing, Tomb Kings indicates it's not limited to the Empire area of the Map / Specifically "The Old World", and that they're entirely new models means there's more to it than just re-releasing old kits again.

Blood Bowl, Necromunda and Aeronautica Imperialis would all like to say "hello"...

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
Did... did people really think there wouldn't be any plastic releases?

I definitely had concerns. As someone who doesn't buy resin kits, I am still worried that the heroes and other key models may be resin rather than plastic.

I’d bet it being closer to Horus Heresy 2.0 rather than necromunda in terms of plastic/resin ratio.
Possibly smaller overall ranges with a lot of double/triple purpose kits and an odd resin special character here and there.

I wonder if the stuff releasing for AoS has been modelled with the Old World in mind. Like new squigs and such.. although new warriors of chaos seem to be telling us a different story: it’d be a pain to rank and file them.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
I am betting for autumn, this year.

If the rumour mill is not extremely, bafflingly mislead we'll get a new edition of Warhammer 40k in late june/early july, which would pretty much rule out another major game release before christmas at the earliest. Wh40k is their crown jewel and their main moneymaker, they would not risk another game 'stealing' the spotlight close after a new edition.

November seems like a reasonable bet. We got 40k 8th edition in June 2017 followed by the Necromunda launch 5 months later.

Doesn't seem worthwhile making any comparisons to 9th edition though, given how the release schedule was disrupted going into that.

They look pretty good, hopefully the models will look better than these renders. But I'm excited for these bad boys and I'm glad Bretonnians and Tomb Kings are getting new kits.

I still think we are a year away from the actual release, minimum.

Chikout wrote:
Does none else think that the Bretonnian stuff is just kind of boring? There's not much on the way of detail and the helmet crests are pretty much the same designs we had before. The shields also look exactly like the old ones with no added details. Keeping the face of the shields bare is sensible, but there are no nicks or dents no lady's favours hanging off the shields and barely any variation in the shapes of the shields. The swords are also all prestine with a pretty uniform design. The only nice touch I liked is the key hanging on one arm. I don't need oddles of detail but for a preview showing off a first look at new minis, I expected more. The Tomb King stuff is much better.

Utterly the opposite for me. I loathe it when GW designs insist on smothering what would be a pretty good sculpt with layer upon layer of unnecessary detail. Much prefer a 'clean' model where any extra ornamentation is optional. My main concern for any new Brets is the horses; GW's recent track record on posing those in a way that doesn't look daft isn't great. Hopefully caparisons and the general chonkiness of Bretonnian warhorses will limit their urges to have them nearly floating in mid-air.


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 Dysartes wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
New plastic kits means it's not a small specialist game thing, Tomb Kings indicates it's not limited to the Empire area of the Map / Specifically "The Old World", and that they're entirely new models means there's more to it than just re-releasing old kits again.

Blood Bowl, Necromunda and Aeronautica Imperialis would all like to say "hello"...

Think there's different ends of the spectrum there. AI might have been pretty limited but Necromunda and Blood Bowl have both been fairly substantial releases (particularly 'Munda) under the SG umbrella.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
Did... did people really think there wouldn't be any plastic releases?

I definitely had concerns. As someone who doesn't buy resin kits, I am still worried that the heroes and other key models may be resin rather than plastic.

I’d bet it being closer to Horus Heresy 2.0 rather than necromunda in terms of plastic/resin ratio.
Possibly smaller overall ranges with a lot of double/triple purpose kits and an odd resin special character here and there.

I wonder if the stuff releasing for AoS has been modelled with the Old World in mind. Like new squigs and such.. although new warriors of chaos seem to be telling us a different story: it’d be a pain to rank and file them.

On the topic of ranking things up, there's nothing to say that a 30mm square base couldn't be introduced, base sizes for minis often flipped back and forth between different editions of WHFB.

I'm building a Beastmen army at current and it's all going on custom 20mm round mini-bases that magnetize into larger bases, basing for that army is all over the place to start with and it'll future proof them for ToW, too.