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The more I think about it, one of the key things I want from TOW is the ability to customize heroes again. It's been very disappointing in AoS and newer 40K that we keep losing options for how we can outfit heroes or what they can be mounted on.

I'd love to see a proper necromancer on a corpse cart again or Empire Generals armed with pistols and hand weapons.

Heck, Battle Standard Bearers will be wonderful to see again too.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The more I think about it, one of the key things I want from TOW is the ability to customize heroes again. It's been very disappointing in AoS and newer 40K that we keep losing options for how we can outfit heroes or what they can be mounted on.

I'd love to see a proper necromancer on a corpse cart again or Empire Generals armed with pistols and hand weapons.

Heck, Battle Standard Bearers will be wonderful to see again too.

Not gonna happen, unless you get lucky and get a decent rulesteam like HH.
Afterall it would open the door to 3rd parties.

I like the idea of larger bases. My Chaos knights and such do not rank up very well.

I will make some 30X60 rectangle and squares of 30 and 32.

I have a couple of Westwind armies of elves and dwarves that I could never get to rank up so those will be usable finally.

Have not purchased much from GW in the past few years but I will be looking in to this and perhaps buying. I am not going to spend $80 for a box of 10 plastic goblins though.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Spent ages rebasing to round AoS (O&G army), its not fun so yeah good luck with that.

Yeah, not rebasing 600+ Skaven, 500+ Goblins, plus all the other armies with 100-300 models.

I rebased my 2nd 40K Terminators to 40mm. Those were maybe 20 models (SM & CSM). Not a big deal. Just glued them on the new base without scrapping the sand of it. However there are also around 100 night goblins in my collection and these will stay on 25mm otherwise I would go nuts.

Yeah, so did I. And ~60 power armored Thousand Sons to the 32's when those became standard. It's fine when it's about 20-30 models, it gets real time consuming and annoying when it's large numbers of models and I have literally thousands I'd need to redo if I rebased.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The more I think about it, one of the key things I want from TOW is the ability to customize heroes again. It's been very disappointing in AoS and newer 40K that we keep losing options for how we can outfit heroes or what they can be mounted on.

I'd love to see a proper necromancer on a corpse cart again or Empire Generals armed with pistols and hand weapons.

Heck, Battle Standard Bearers will be wonderful to see again too.

Not gonna happen, unless you get lucky and get a decent rulestime like HH.
Afterall it would open the door to 3rd parties.

When you look at the last months Bretonnian pictures about the swords and axes, then you can see that it has similiar connection points like on the old models.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The more I think about it, one of the key things I want from TOW is the ability to customize heroes again. It's been very disappointing in AoS and newer 40K that we keep losing options for how we can outfit heroes or what they can be mounted on.

I'd love to see a proper necromancer on a corpse cart again or Empire Generals armed with pistols and hand weapons.

Heck, Battle Standard Bearers will be wonderful to see again too.

Yeah that’s one of my big things I miss in AoS. The old Vampire Lords with like 100 points to spend on vampiric powers, or Chaos Lords with boons and mutations, Slann powers, magic weapons, 3 or 4 mount options, etc.

So larger bases and movement trays as expected, good. New Saurus in TOW are happening then.

I don't see myself rebasing my small Skaven army, but I'd be o-k with starting Bretonnians as a new army, depending on the quality of the rules.

Chaos Dwarves returning would probably get me to jump in right away, but I doubt they'll appear any time soon.

I do feel sympathy for anyone who has to rebase 200+ miniatures, though. :(

Thing is if the bases are going up in size then you can get away just keeping them on the same bases and using movement trays of the correct size with small slots in for your models.

For heroes and leaders and monsters you might even get away just sticking the current based model on top of a larger base - like a plinth.

 herjan1987 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The more I think about it, one of the key things I want from TOW is the ability to customize heroes again. It's been very disappointing in AoS and newer 40K that we keep losing options for how we can outfit heroes or what they can be mounted on.

I'd love to see a proper necromancer on a corpse cart again or Empire Generals armed with pistols and hand weapons.

Heck, Battle Standard Bearers will be wonderful to see again too.

Not gonna happen, unless you get lucky and get a decent rulestime like HH.
Afterall it would open the door to 3rd parties.

When you look at the last months Bretonnian pictures about the swords and axes, then you can see that it has similiar connection points like on the old models.

true that, but that doesn't necessarily translate into customizable rules for HQ / Heros and lord choices.
I hope that GW will go the HH route in regards to rules for that ( and provide kits that support this ontop, stuff like ye terminator lord of old f.e.) but i dread that we may just as well see GSC charachter level customisation ( 0 )

Althougth I my built collect is not as sizeable that I need hundreds of hours to rebase them, I am going to most likely use movement trays that are accomodating the old bases, but providing me the new frontage or I am going to use correct spacers tó full in the gap for these models to be competiable with the new rules. But I am certainly going to hold off to make a decission till they tell us all possible base sizes. In my book these are the ways to go without tedious task of clipping and filling bases of my models and pay wast amount of money, which can be solved in much more cheaper solution. On Facebook I already saw a guy, who printed a demo spacer for his Bretonnian men-at-arm.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 herjan1987 wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The more I think about it, one of the key things I want from TOW is the ability to customize heroes again. It's been very disappointing in AoS and newer 40K that we keep losing options for how we can outfit heroes or what they can be mounted on.

I'd love to see a proper necromancer on a corpse cart again or Empire Generals armed with pistols and hand weapons.

Heck, Battle Standard Bearers will be wonderful to see again too.

Not gonna happen, unless you get lucky and get a decent rulestime like HH.
Afterall it would open the door to 3rd parties.

When you look at the last months Bretonnian pictures about the swords and axes, then you can see that it has similiar connection points like on the old models.

true that, but that doesn't necessarily translate into customizable rules for HQ / Heros and lord choices.
I hope that GW will go the HH route in regards to rules for that ( and provide kits that support this ontop, stuff like ye terminator lord of old f.e.) but i dread that we may just as well see GSC charachter level customisation ( 0 )

If the connection points are same, then why cant 3rd parties print what ever they want?
Of course, if rules dont support it, thats an other in thing enterily, but what about magic items? They are core part of Warhammer Fantasy and they said, that they gather stuff from older editions. Why cant I convert my Empire captain with an awsome 3rd party Sword of Might, if I can?

 nathan2004 wrote:
Can anyone speak to the lore around this time regarding Orcs and Goblins...were they united as 1 army or would they be separate from each other and act as 2 independent armies...apologies if this is a silly question but I'm not super up to date on the lore and my little brother is starting O&G and we're both curious about this.

The major Waaaagh event from the period of the Three Emperors is Gorbad Ironclaw's invasion about 150 years into the time period, which covers about 750 years in total. But in general, Orcs & Goblins have always been both mixed tribes and segregated tribes in any time period.

Are the pics in newest article of new upcoming Bret minis? Or are they the old ones?

Will the old style Warhammer game be released in 2023, since it is after all the 40th anniversary?

Apologies, I literally am just seeing this news for first time.

It seems that there will be rereleases of old kits alongside new releases.

Yeah, those are old models.

As for release, we don't know. I think people have talked about rumors that there would at least be a launch box or something this year, but I don't know if that is credible. Best case scenario, we'll get something on GW's intentions at Warhammer Fest in two weeks. Worst case, GW lets the 10th ed 40k take its course before they try to tempt people with anything else.

Grzzldgamerps5 wrote:
Are the pics in newest article of new upcoming Bret minis? Or are they the old ones?

Will the old style Warhammer game be released in 2023, since it is after all the 40th anniversary?

Apologies, I literally am just seeing this news for first time.

The newest article:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/14/old-world-development-diary-on-bases-and-the-barons-of-bretonnia/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-old-world&utm_content=tow14042023

 Geifer wrote:
Yeah, those are old models.

As for release, we don't know. I think people have talked about rumors that there would at least be a launch box or something this year, but I don't know if that is credible. Best case scenario, we'll get something on GW's intentions at Warhammer Fest in two weeks. Worst case, GW lets the 10th ed 40k take its course before they try to tempt people with anything else.

The article makes it clear fest has more info about tow.

tneva82 wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Yeah, those are old models.

As for release, we don't know. I think people have talked about rumors that there would at least be a launch box or something this year, but I don't know if that is credible. Best case scenario, we'll get something on GW's intentions at Warhammer Fest in two weeks. Worst case, GW lets the 10th ed 40k take its course before they try to tempt people with anything else.

The article makes it clear fest has more info about tow.

Yes, but it does not specify what that information is. I was responding specifically to a question about the release of The Old World.

Could be a starter box in the fall, and army boxes of the old armies in place of holiday battalions, and then push for new models next year

are the models pictured painted in the above article actual models from the upcoming game? I cannot ascertain their wording on this.

OK nevermind -- there is no way they are all new, the article is focused on the larger bases.
Good info in there.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:
are the models pictured painted in the above article actual models from the upcoming game? I cannot ascertain their wording on this.

No, they're the old stuff.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Could be a starter box in the fall, and army boxes of the old armies in place of holiday battalions, and then push for new models next year

Why would the cut out one of their biggest sellers of the year for that?

All these old kits coming back pretty much killed my interest for this game. Seems like it will be a half assed affair

Better than no product at launch I'd say because that is the alternative. GW isn't going to invest in redoing every single Old World army for a side game when AoS and 40k can't even get certain factions out of the dark ages.

Disagree. Them bringing back these old kits make me thinks that the game will have really low support. After all, they wouldnt bring back these kits if they intend to replace them in a few years. And we know that they have some new kits for Brettonia, so it seems like most armies will be a mix of new kits and really old ones. Which is another one of my pet peeves.

I can understand why some people are still interested in the game, but for me, its a deal breaker

What do you think they will bring it out with all new models. Thats not going to happen, maybe
the starter will have some new models in it. And i do like the old brets.

 streetsamurai wrote:
All these old kits coming back pretty much killed my interest for this game. Seems like it will be a half assed affair

Well. Alternative was models for sale for 2 factions to begin with. Rest would be "here's quick army lists but no models for sale. Hunt for ebay for oop models at prices higher than even we are asking for.".

You really would prefer that instead?

 streetsamurai wrote:
After all, they wouldnt bring back these kits if they intend to replace them in a few years.

That doesn't make any sense. GW aren't going to rework every faction straight away, and this way they can still sell models until they do.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Could be a starter box in the fall, and army boxes of the old armies in place of holiday battalions, and then push for new models next year

Why would the cut out one of their biggest sellers of the year for that?

Production capability?

bobthe4th wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
After all, they wouldnt bring back these kits if they intend to replace them in a few years.

That doesn't make any sense. GW aren't going to rework every faction straight away, and this way they can still sell models until they do.

It does make sense if you actually read what i posted. I dont expect them to release all 12 armies (if not more) day one. But them releasing old kits alongside new ones (they showed renders of new brettonians) pretty muc proves that at least some armies will be a mishmash of decades old kits and new kits (and GW being GW, i shudder just thinking at the price theyll put on these old garbage) . As i said, if its acceptable to some people, cool for them, but that doesn't interest me, especially since theres a few alternative games that have full armies that are all pretty new.