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 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
Also it seems max armour save is 2+, so farewell 1+ Empire Knights! You had a good run.

Yeah, I guess you no longer get +1 for being mounted. Sad face for my Knights (both Chaos and Imperial).

WorldEdgePlayer wrote:
Skirmishers do not block line of sight? You can see between individual models?

units do not block line of sight, models do
so models in loose formation make it possible to see thru them unless the models itself block LOS

 Chief Librarian Mephiston wrote:
…it looks like the timeline will eventually advance to the Great War against Chaos. That’s 100 years from where The Old World is starting out at.

The Great War Against Chaos is in 2301-2304. the game setting starts in 2276. It's 25 years apart.

Where do they have put the pdfs for the army not in the armybooks??

They're not published yet.
I believe the quote was 'shortly after release' so that could mean anything from hours to months.

 kodos wrote:
units do not block line of sight, models do

That sounds complicated, surely it makes more sense to have units block LOS and then have different unit classes to decide what blocks what? Having models block LOS makes more sense in a video game where the engine handles the hit boxes.

Mozzamanx wrote:
They're not published yet.
I believe the quote was 'shortly after release' so that could mean anything from hours to months.

They should be available from Warhammer Community on Jan 20th or soon after.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Chief Librarian Mephiston wrote:
…it looks like the timeline will eventually advance to the Great War against Chaos. That’s 100 years from where The Old World is starting out at.

The Great War Against Chaos is in 2301-2304. the game setting starts in 2276. It's 25 years apart.

Yes. But also no. As was explained in one of this week's interviews, they are not going linearly forward towards the Great War, and do plan on hopping backwards, as far back as 2201.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 kodos wrote:
units do not block line of sight, models do

That sounds complicated, surely it makes more sense to have units block LOS and then have different unit classes to decide what blocks what? Having models block LOS makes more sense in a video game where the engine handles the hit boxes.

it is still Warhammer, not Kings of War, you also check for each individual model if it has line of sight to the target to decide if it can shoot or not. Almost everything in GW games is model based, not unit based

Well, that GMG review is confirmation that you can't Army of Infamy your way into a Tomb Kings army that doesnt require you to use the old kits. Was really hoping one of them would let you fill out your core using Tomb Guard or one of the newer kits but no such luck.

you can always just buy the tomb guard and use bits from the skeletons to turn them into core infantry (as suggest multiple times on reddit)

Wow! Confirmation that we are getting Forsaken back is awesome. There are so many old kits I regret not picking up before their demise and I am glad to have another shot beyond scouring eBay.

Tomb guard is the same like before but with phalanx and drill special rule so cannot be driven back?

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Chief Librarian Mephiston wrote:
…it looks like the timeline will eventually advance to the Great War against Chaos. That’s 100 years from where The Old World is starting out at.

The Great War Against Chaos is in 2301-2304. the game setting starts in 2276. It's 25 years apart.

Come on GW. Advance the narrative you cowards!

 kodos wrote:
you can always just buy the tomb guard and use bits from the skeletons to turn them into core infantry (as suggest multiple times on reddit)

That just makes skeletons twice as expensive while still being mediocre

Tomb guard might be cheaper than when they released, but those ushabti prices? Yeesh. Almost doubled the blister pack pricing.

 Astmeister wrote:
Tomb guard is the same like before but with phalanx and drill special rule so cannot be driven back?

The new version/replacement of Killing Blow is different now, so they aren't insta-killing multi-wound models anymore

Yeah but I think this cleaving blow might work on monsters etc. Killing blow only worked against cavalry and infantry.

 Skimask Mohawk wrote:
Tomb guard might be cheaper than when they released, but those ushabti prices? Yeesh. Almost doubled the blister pack pricing.

Triple. They used to be like £6 a blister.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
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I would never expect it to sell more than 40k, but at its peak Warhammer was quite popular in Australia, and we're talking its first edition in almost 14 years, I'd be hoping it to sell reasonably well. It's not like Epic/Legions Imperialis that was only ever a niche within a niche.

Niche as in their 3rd big game.


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 Mallo wrote:


That will be the last BL book I bother to order. Been sick of the way they deal with new released for a long time now and spending an hour in a virtual queue for books once ever few months is still more time than I'm willing. I was too far into collecting the SoT series at the point it got to much.

Well I'm sure whole stock sold to scalpers instead of queue would be so much better

I've got my preorder in with my usual US online supplier for the basics at a discount (Bret box, books, and pegasus standard). Now I've got an alarm set to start checking the GW online store a half hour before launch time, depending on when the queue system turns on. Or do y'all think I should start checking it earlier than that? To this day, selling off my Bretonnians years ago is among my very few gaming regrets, as they were also the original release Bretonnians. Still have all my Dwarves, though.

Considering the price of tin (major ingredient in pewter) has more or less tripled from 30 years ago I consider GW prices on metal to not be that out of line on one hand, whereas on the other I don't see why they are still producing in metal at all if the cost has gone up so much.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I've got my preorder in with my usual US online supplier for the basics at a discount (Bret box, books, and pegasus standard). Now I've got an alarm set to start checking the GW online store a half hour before launch time, depending on when the queue system turns on. Or do y'all think I should start checking it earlier than that? To this day, selling off my Bretonnians years ago is among my very few gaming regrets, as they were also the original release Bretonnians. Still have all my Dwarves, though.

I feel you there. I had a 3,000 point army in 5th Ed. Bret models. Now that I'm back to 6th I have to start every army over except for the 4 armies I didn't sell.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Considering the price of tin (major ingredient in pewter) has more or less tripled from 30 years ago I consider GW prices on metal to not be that out of line on one hand, whereas on the other I don't see why they are still producing in metal at all if the cost has gone up so much.

Not sure would it be much cheaper to go for whatever resin the FW use?

Looking at Bretonnia specifically, you could pretty easily kitbash most of the metal kits anyway.
Do Grail Knights look all that different than the plastic ones? Stick some fancy gubbins on them and paint them a bit differently.
Heck, in TW: WH the big difference is the Grail Knights have shiny magic lances because you can't actually tell them apart otherwise.
The only real issue I can see is Yeoman Cavalry.

Tomb Kings obviously Ushabti aren't exactly something you can make so that sucks.

 Gert wrote:
Tomb Kings obviously Ushabti aren't exactly something you can make so that sucks.

One skeleton riding piggyback on another, either with a skeleton archer's equipment or use the spear shaft combined with a random weapon to make a great weapon. When challenged on it, respond that models will become reasonable when prices become reasonable.

WorldEdgePlayer wrote:
Black orcs with shields have 3+ armor save. "Look at me. I am the knight now."

I laughed harder at this than I probably should have. Are they still armed to da teeth?

Holy gak I just saw the rules for gyrocopters. 60pts/model and can be taken in units of 6! They fly (9) and have a steam gun (breath template that does S3 AP-1). Imagine placing 6 templates over a unit!!

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Judging solely from that one pic, it looks like there are only regular gobbos, which could mean night ones are AoS only.

Not gonna lie i'll be happy to finally get a box of plain ole vanilla gobbos Dang things never ever seemed to pop up on ebay and if they did they'd be stupidly expensive lol.