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 RustyNumber wrote:
Hah why the nonsense of 1999 instead of just capping individual troublesome units, or at least just saying 2k "but with 1k composition"?

Given nobody gives a toss about two or three points either way 1999 is very much a shorthand for saying "2k but with 1k composition" no?

There are players who don't like house rules (not me, I love tinkering ) so I guess 1999pts has the advantage of not changing any game rules, while 2k with 1k composition is already a house rule of sorts.

And here's the unreleased Bretonnian!

Also a promise of a forthcoming Made To Order, and the next army being shown off this weekend at Warhammer World.

If it had been me, I'd have gone to the trouble of giving the face another bash, but apart from that, it's a pretty cool mini.

The face looked off at first to me as well, until I realized he's supposed to have a circlet on.

It should have been painted far shinier.

It does look a wee bit too elven with those killer cheekbones.

Nice model but the face (circlet or not) could be better.

I can see why it was unreleased in the first place, the head and hands in particular are not good.

It's not too far away from being a nice model though, I wish that it had been re-worked before being released.

My first thought was "Eyebrows a Mentat would envy." But the circlet could have been painted shinier...or at least not hair color.

I’m praying they don’t release the unreleased dwarf command set for the shieldbearers. I doubt it since the rules mention 3 holders but still


My bet is warriors of chaos will be revealed next

 Kanluwen wrote:
The face looked off at first to me as well, until I realized he's supposed to have a circlet on.

It should have been painted far shinier.

He still looks more elven than human with those eyes, but yeah looked like wonky eyebrows to me too xD

 RustyNumber wrote:
Hah why the nonsense of 1999 instead of just capping individual troublesome units, or at least just saying 2k "but with 1k composition"?

Basically a semantical way to force composition restraints on opponents, probably because of a history of LACK of constraint in those groups.

How exactly you nail paper to the sword? Also, where is his left thumb?

 Sacredroach wrote:
But the circlet could have been painted shinier...

The issue is that it's too shiny here. If it was gold color, you wouldn't mistake it for hair, but GW painting team has this annoying, stupid obsession of ruining gold/copper items by slapping ton of 'aluminium' light grey metal paint on it (which I think they are going for 'shiny gold' look but it just looks like cheap 'made in china' gilding on plastic junk that just scraped off) which made it look hair color. Look at sword pommel, half of it isn't yellow, just looks cheap and tacky

 GaroRobe wrote:
I’m praying they don’t release the unreleased dwarf command set for the shieldbearers. I doubt it since the rules mention 3 holders but still

Why not?

 Sacredroach wrote:
My first thought was "Eyebrows a Mentat would envy." But the circlet could have been painted shinier...or at least not hair color.

That's not Mentat eyebrows; THIS is Mentat eyebrows



"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."

Jokes aside, I'd like to see some alternate paintjobs for this new Bret character. I may have to break down and get him myself if GW's production/supply lines allow me to buy him.

Ibris wrote: Also, where is his left thumb?

Dunno about you, but I’d have my opposable thumb behind the item it’s helping my hand to hold?

Not sure what the star reference was in the tease for this.

It is neat to have some unreleased history available. Not sure it's anything I need though.

 Kanluwen wrote:



And here's the unreleased Bretonnian!

Bretonnian=Hapburg

 Irbis wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I’m praying they don’t release the unreleased dwarf command set for the shieldbearers. I doubt it since the rules mention 3 holders but still

Why not?

It was made for the older style of plastic dwarfs, and I far prefer the more recent models. The sprue had some cool bits, like an oathstone and bsb, but I’d rather get a newer shieldbearer

I like him, and the helmet bearer is a nice detail. General availability of TOW though... They can hopefully fix this as soon as possible.

I'm looking forward to the reveal which is the next faction to be released, from WarCom, already mentioned by Mad Doc:

"Those lucky enough to attend the Warhammer: The Old World launch event at Warhammer World in Nottingham this weekend will get the first look at the next army due for release! And for those who can’t make it to Nottingham, we’ll have the details here on Warhammer Community."



Some of Hastings posts in the War of Sigmar comments section may give a hint:

" No, I was told the other races aren’t being made available at launch. More specifically I actually recall being told there will be big boxes for both empire and O&G towards the middle of 2024, along with their respective books AND book to advance the narrative. "

" My understanding is the narrative/timeline heads towards the chaos incursion, with a rumoured plastic war mammoth to accompany the chaos army, if it lasts that long. "

" I was also told there will be books that move forward the narrative/timeline towards the climatic chaos invasion… "

" The skeletons and cavalry are so dated, they look awful next to the new dragon. Im confused as my source definitely said there was a new chariot hero kit. "

https://disqus.com/by/75hastings69/

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

And here's the unreleased Bretonnian!

AI prompt: Chapter Master Azrael as a Bretonnian.

The dwarf dice were leaked so maybe they’re ready to go? Half their kits are readily available in AoS soooo

This fella would have problems with those lower horns during the fight. That aside I like him.

 Irbis wrote:
How exactly you nail paper to the sword?

It could've been worse, like nailing swords to paper.

But yeah, I think you detected the most ridiculous thing so far on the new line (thankfully retracted) heh.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
This fella would have problems with those lower horns during the fight. That aside I like him.

Lord Ashferon:
"Grorben, slay that Bretonnian captain to the right of you!".. "Grorben!!"..
..
"damnit Grorben"..

Chaos knight Aymen:
"What happened lord Ashferon"

Lord Ashferon:
"Grorben was slain.."

Chaos knight Aymen:
"But.. he was the best swordsman we had!"

Lord Ashferon:
"yes.. but he couldn't see his opponent if they moved to his side because of the helmet we designed for him, he could not turn his head"

Chaos knight Aymen:
"But.. why did you design that helmet then.."

Ashferon:
"We wanted him to look really cool"
.. hmm..
".. ..what if we also put huge horns around our men's greaves, we would look even cooler"
-

2 days later..

Lord Ashferon:
"Aymen!" .."Aymen!".. "Aymen run from that incoming pegasus cavalerie!"

"..Aymen!.."

"Damnit Aymen.."

Honestly the face on that mini kind of makes me want it even more

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Ibris wrote: Also, where is his left thumb?

Dunno about you, but I’d have my opposable thumb behind the item it’s helping my hand to hold?

Try holding glove like this. You will have big kink where the middle lily is to fit finger, his glove is totally straight up to his wrist. His thumb just doesn't exist. Also, unless you have hands like chimpanzee, your little finger should be visibly shorter than middle finger and its base recessed into hand. On this fail of a mini, it's longer and the finger base is straight

Also, looking at details, this mini reminded me why I prefer CAD minis to hand sculpts, they are just awful even why done by pros. Look at bottom right pic, his sword grip doesn't line up with blade, it's way off center. His helmet is too small for his head. The little shields on the rim of his cloak are crooked, uneven, with bad spacings. Others said enough about his face, so I will skip it, but that too. The bottom of scabbard on his back doesn't line up with top (and don't say 'it's soft', not only leather used for swords was hard for protection, they also often had wooden stiffening lining and in any case, even if scabbard was cloth it doesn't line up in wrong way).

And that's just details that are badly done, if I were to nitpick I'd point out spikes on pommel stabbing into his hand if he wants to switch grip to the rear for more reach/grab it with both hands are stupid (and in best case, make 1/3 of grip unusable). On real swords, lily bases were elongated to move it away from grip, points blunted and made much less prominent if not bent the other way, and lily made small enough to grab it in emergency. Or just engraved/cut onto your standard disc/square pommel (or worked onto rainguard/crossguard, visible parts that user never needed to touch, precisely for the stabby reason). Here, it's another fail by someone who didn't stop to think for 5 seconds what he is doing, same with nailing stuff into the blade

Warhams-77 wrote:


Some of Hastings posts in the War of Sigmar comments section may give a hint:

" No, I was told the other races aren’t being made available at launch. More specifically I actually recall being told there will be big boxes for both empire and O&G towards the middle of 2024, along with their respective books AND book to advance the narrative. "

" My understanding is the narrative/timeline heads towards the chaos incursion, with a rumoured plastic war mammoth to accompany the chaos army, if it lasts that long. "

" I was also told there will be books that move forward the narrative/timeline towards the climatic chaos invasion… "

" The skeletons and cavalry are so dated, they look awful next to the new dragon. Im confused as my source definitely said there was a new chariot hero kit. "

Putting out a big box of Empire and O&G in the middle of 2024 is waaay to close to AOS 4.0 release IMO

Everything else sound probable the Plastic War Mammoth is definitely will be better receive then the Crocdargon that for sure. With the scope TOW is going by i can't really think of any other models i would prefer they update then the Mammoth (that may be just because AOS updated any units i would wanted i know they aint use those)

I understand his post like the seperate Bret and Khemri boxes : -) Not a 'faction X versus Y', two player starter- or campaign-set. Yes,that may collide with any big box AoS 4.0 releases. But army sets, I think, won't be a problem.

Maybe they will replace the rulebook with an arcane journal in future army boxes.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
Honestly the face on that mini kind of makes me want it even more

Same here. From a distance on the gaming table and average lighting he will look like lord Chadson himself. Great model and amusing to get him in metal.

GW: This New Bretonnian Lord Was Sculpted in 2008
Me: Yes, I can see that.

Warhams-77 wrote:
" I was also told there will be books that move forward the narrative/timeline towards the climatic chaos invasion… "

If the 7th ed Warriors of Chaos army book is to be believed, the Great War Against Chaos starts in 2271. Current year for the Border Princes thing is 2276 according to Warhammer Community.

I can't stand people who are late for their own war.

 Dragon-knight77 wrote:
Putting out a big box of Empire and O&G in the middle of 2024 is waaay to close to AOS 4.0 release IMO

The current approach is a launch box in mid June, starter sets a few weeks later and then the army books and individual kits no sooner than September. That leaves all of August if GW were concerned about Empire and Orcs getting in the way of Sigmarines and Skaven. Which is probably not the biggest concern.

Plus, it's not like GW is going to make enough Old World stock to sell to everyone. I doubt a lot of people will find themselves prioritizing one over the other even if they're interested in both.