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 godswildcard wrote:
Well, in that case, Imma put Grombrindal on a square base! Just let GW try and stop me!

You and literally ever TOW Dwarf player.

Wil make him a dwarven lord, the same as the other 3 i have

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm still somewhere between surprised and unsurprised that they didn't give Grombrindal TOW rules in WD500, given he's a known character in the Old World.

Then again, to use HBMC's turn of phrase, GW never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity...

Clearly, their plan is to make piles of cash from a MTO of one of the classic White Dwarf models.

 godswildcard wrote:
Well, in that case, Imma put Grombrindal on a square base! Just let GW try and stop me!

They won't. Nor care.

So are we now expecting Dwarves later in the fall? They usually slow down releases for an new edition of AOS. They have at least 20 kits to release for Stormbois and Skaven to come out.

I'm honestly stunned dwarves haven't released yet

I think I can go max one more week without seeing dorf preorders before I have to rejig my tourney list.

The O&G books went on preorder on 23/03 and at the 1/qtr release rate that gives two weeks before the next preorder slot is “overdue” so I doubt we’ll see anything this week, with previews starting next week i.e. the 16th.

To me it really feels like some parts of the company are trying to get the game to tank though. I can't remember the last time an article about the game went up on community and at the last big reveal show they showed absolutely nothing. Apart from the dwarfs, which have been previewed months ago now, we are also still missing Ogdruz.

It might just be me, but it feels like HH and LI are receiving much more attention.

Last week i was in an official GW store for the first time in years. I spoke with an employee about how enthusiastic i was about the return of warhammer but that i was a bit saddened about the difficulty i was having getting the models for it. He was really gruff and had an 'just be grateful you can get models at al' attitude.

JWh85 wrote:
To me it really feels like some parts of the company are trying to get the game to tank though. I can't remember the last time an article about the game went up on community and at the last big reveal show they showed absolutely nothing. Apart from the dwarfs, which have been previewed months ago now, we are also still missing Ogdruz.

It might just be me, but it feels like HH and LI are receiving much more attention.

Both games are part of 40k. 40k is more popular. Ergo more time is spent on them.

I don't think GW wants the game to tank, if anything it doing so well has likely been an unexpected boon.

I do think GW as a firm is suffering with its success - ergo that staffer is likely getting a LOT of complaints about missing models and customers who can't get what they want and its all out of his hands as a manager at a local store.

And he's not alone; overseas especially seems to suffer a lot of stock shortfalls on popular stuff and have done so for a fairly longish time.

Pausing ToW marketing while the new edition of AoS is imminent makes good sense tbh.

I don't think GW have much choice when it comes to how they handle TOW, they only can make minis so fast. Some people just got overhyped on what the timetable would be and forgot reality. This is a company that couldn't keep up with their releases BEFORE The Old World came out, the idea they were going to do an army every month and Cathay and Kislev too was always silly. I figured it was going to be about one army a quarter, assuming production delays don't slow it down even more.

I don't think the quarterly release of armies is the problem; that was pretty much a given when they announced they would release the 9 armies over a two year period.

I just think that the game deserves some more attention overal from gw (some articles on community seem low-hanging fruit for example) after such a succesful release of the game.

Instead we hear absolutely nothing from them about the game for two months.

Or incorporating Larp'ing at events for example

 frankelee wrote:
I don't think GW have much choice when it comes to how they handle TOW, they only can make minis so fast. Some people just got overhyped on what the timetable would be and forgot reality. This is a company that couldn't keep up with their releases BEFORE The Old World came out, the idea they were going to do an army every month and Cathay and Kislev too was always silly. I figured it was going to be about one army a quarter, assuming production delays don't slow it down even more.

all this is true but that is the choice GW made
there is not outer force that took the choice away but GW decided how many resources each game gets and how many new games they want to launch at the same time

doing LI and TOW the same time 40k and AoS get a new Edition instead of the "empty" year was a choice they made and the current situation is the result of that choice and they could have made any other choice as well (like not doing LI now, or doing TOW next year)

question now is, as they made a choice to have the side games now what are they planning for next year as main release.

MaxT wrote:
Pausing ToW marketing while the new edition of AoS is imminent makes good sense tbh.

Unless you're a customer of ToW and care nothing for AoS.

For GW however, I expect there to be some instruction sayin that a month prior to and a few months after, there is to be no ToW releases because of the fanfare of AoS4. I'm sure GW would hate for an AoS mum purchaser to accidentally purchase a ToW product.

Honestly, I think people need to be reminded that they should be careful with what they wish for. GW have a proven track record of meddling too much with their systems and it makes their games at times a bit of a chore to keep up with.

So, their inactivity towards TOW is a blessing in disguise. The game we have works, we have rules for all the factions. If people want models, look to the second hand market, or third party alternatives to GW models.

Sure a battle report or article would be nice, but let us be realistic here, TOW is not something GW are planning to provide the same level of support as say AoS, or even KT. It is very low down on GW's list of priorities.

Low down doesn't really match with releasing 3 full armies in a few months and a plan to have almost an entire full major game's worth of product in 1-1.5 years. Yes many are older sculpts, but that's still a huge amount of product being newly added to the release schedule all at once.

TWO is possibly GW's most major project after the AoS new edition in terms of how much material gets added to the production and distribution pipeline in one go.

JWh85 wrote:
I don't think the quarterly release of armies is the problem; that was pretty much a given when they announced they would release the 9 armies over a two year period.

I just think that the game deserves some more attention overal from gw (some articles on community seem low-hanging fruit for example) after such a succesful release of the game.

Instead we hear absolutely nothing from them about the game for two months.

Maybe they're afraid 20 year old dwarf models will overshadow the entire AoS 4th ed release.

 Daba wrote:

JWh85 wrote:
I don't think the quarterly release of armies is the problem; that was pretty much a given when they announced they would release the 9 armies over a two year period.

I just think that the game deserves some more attention overal from gw (some articles on community seem low-hanging fruit for example) after such a succesful release of the game.

Instead we hear absolutely nothing from them about the game for two months.

Maybe they're afraid 20 year old dwarf models will overshadow the entire AoS 4th ed release.

I doubt it. I'm not a big fan of AoS, and the Sigmarines don't do anything for me, but those new Skaven models are pretty freakin' sweet.

 Daba wrote:

Maybe they're afraid 20 year old dwarf models will overshadow the entire AoS 4th ed release.

My personal opinion, but unless you're talking about the newer kits, the old Dwarf Warriors/Thundered/Quarrelers weren't their best work, even when they were newly released. So I'm not so confident that is the reason...

Damon.

If we are talking about these dwarves, they were absolutely the best ones. Really good kit and a nice art style, did not particularly like the follow up kit in 7th.

Again some HH and LI additions this week. It's really beginning to feel to me like they don't really care about this game. Apart from the dwarfs, we still don't have Ogdruz somehow. They could have easily released him by now. The game really seems to be on the bottom of the barrel as far as GW is concerned.

Well, don't expect an announcement next week, either, since that will be announcing the pre-orders for Age of Sigmar 4.

 Olthannon wrote:



If we are talking about these dwarves, they were absolutely the best ones. Really good kit and a nice art style, did not particularly like the follow up kit in 7th.

I agree, I like these a bit better than their successors. Except for the ham-hands (an issue with 6e plastics), & no positive mounting stud for shields. That being said, based on all the photos seen so far, we're not getting these guys. It would be nice to see them as a follow-up release, however.

Damon.

The back of the Dwarves AJ has been shown.

No Slayer army

Only Royal Clans & Engineers Exp. Forces...

SU-152 wrote:
The back of the Dwarves AJ has been shown.

No Slayer army

Only Royal Clans & Engineers Exp. Forces...

Slayers - er Fyreslayers - are an AoS army

Honestly whilst that sounds daft it could well be the marketing/management/market separation choice. Or just a reflection that they'll only have one or two slayer elite units instead of whole armies

chaos0xomega wrote:
I'm honestly stunned dwarves haven't released yet

Makes absolutely no sense to release them in the middle of the AOS4 blitz. As others have said I would expect them out very shortly after and we'll then probably get a compressed wait for the next army, so TOW can catch up on it's holding position.

Yes, that makes sense, but what's the excuse for not having released them 2-3 months ago? The game hasn't had any releases since what, March? They could have put dwarves out in April or may without issue.