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2026/06/30 15:59:56
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A triple kit? Lord, Sorcerer on Dragon, and Galrauch?
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2026/06/30 16:08:54
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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 Daba wrote:A triple kit? Lord, Sorcerer on Dragon, and Galrauch?
I'd prefer a normal warpfire dragon. Then again, it'll be galrauch but at the same time we all know that it will be warpfire dragons.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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2026/06/30 16:15:55
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Not Online!!! wrote: Daba wrote:A triple kit? Lord, Sorcerer on Dragon, and Galrauch?
I'd prefer a normal warpfire dragon. Then again, it'll be galrauch but at the same time we all know that it will be warpfire dragons.
I mean, moot point since the set doesn't build Galrauch anyway.
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2026/06/30 16:19:12
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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The New Miss Macross!
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That sorcerer is alot beefier (admittedly with a deformity) and much more armored than expected.
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2026/06/30 16:43:58
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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[DCM]
Social Justice Death Knight
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Chaos Sorcerers have always been decently armoured and good fighters by wizard standards.
It rarely happened in actual games, but I am pretty sure back in WHFB a Chaos Sorcerer would also pick up something like an Empire Battle Wizard and just break them over their knee.
Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game (YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
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2026/06/30 16:55:24
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Especially in 6th when MoT just straight made a Chaos Lord a Lvl4 Wizard.
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2026/06/30 17:50:13
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Sorcerers have always been decently armoured and good fighters by wizard standards.
It rarely happened in actual games, but I am pretty sure back in WHFB a Chaos Sorcerer would also pick up something like an Empire Battle Wizard and just break them over their knee.
Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Yeah, back when a standard formula explained increasing hero / wizard statlines in 4th and 5th edition, a Chaos Sorcerer was using a Chaos Warrior as a base back when a CW had a statline just 2 attacks and 2 wounds below a top-level human Lord...
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2026/06/30 17:52:43
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Chaos sorcerers beeing able to hide in chaos armour make me think they could be corupted nobles dabling in the dark arts and teleporting to the battlefield to do their twisted art incognito. But this dragon mage look like he live a long and hard life hidden in a cave close to a bar that dont ask to many questions.
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2026/06/30 17:59:55
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Dakka Veteran
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 Shakalooloo wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Sorcerers have always been decently armoured and good fighters by wizard standards.
It rarely happened in actual games, but I am pretty sure back in WHFB a Chaos Sorcerer would also pick up something like an Empire Battle Wizard and just break them over their knee.
Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Yeah, back when a standard formula explained increasing hero / wizard statlines in 4th and 5th edition, a Chaos Sorcerer was using a Chaos Warrior as a base back when a CW had a statline just 2 attacks and 2 wounds below a top-level human Lord...
Even in ToW Chaos Sorcerer Lords are only 1 I& Ld off an Empire *General* (and better than a Captain) and come with heavy armour. I don’t recall it being much different in 6th-8th either, though back then Chaos armour was full plate rather than a ward.
Though challenging Empire Wizards in past editions was always dicey as they often had Van Horstman’s Speculum to swap stats and paste whoever tried.
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2026/06/30 18:23:12
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Fayric wrote:Chaos sorcerers beeing able to hide in chaos armour make me think they could be corupted nobles dabling in the dark arts and teleporting to the battlefield to do their twisted art incognito. But this dragon mage look like he live a long and hard life hidden in a cave close to a bar that dont ask to many questions.
Chaos Warriors/Sorcerors/Lords have always had a mixed heritage of "can come from anywhere as long as they prove themselves in the Wastes". Some Sorcerers are Marauder Shamans who've earned their Chaos Armor by deed, some are fled Imperial Wizards(Egrimm van Horstmann was the head of the Imperial Light Order of Wizards) who've made dark pacts with the gods and Chaos Dwarfs. Chaos armies have always been a meritocracy.
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2026/06/30 18:45:05
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like the sorcerer, they managed to pull off the "disfigured yet powerful" look nicely.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2026/07/01 06:49:31
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2026/06/30 21:35:21
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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 Platuan4th wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Especially in 6th when MoT just straight made a Chaos Lord a Lvl4 Wizard.
Fun times. Forever running out of magic items points because they could do too much. Beatstick or sage? Plus the Mark was so expensive you never had more than one lord and one hero.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
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2026/06/30 22:01:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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DC:90+S+G++MB++I--Pww211+D++A++/fWD390R++T(F)DM+
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2026/06/30 22:40:21
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Mr_Rose wrote: Platuan4th wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Especially in 6th when MoT just straight made a Chaos Lord a Lvl4 Wizard.
Fun times. Forever running out of magic items points because they could do too much. Beatstick or sage? Plus the Mark was so expensive you never had more than one lord and one hero.
They probably should have given a different rule for the mot. Rather than making a lord a level 4 wizard, maybe it have them 1 level.
But the mot on a level 4 wizard gave them army general rules, in addition to magic buffs. A sorcerer lord of tzeentch leading the army wouldn't be physically as equal to others.
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2026/06/30 22:49:12
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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1990s(?)
Looks like they went back up for sale in 2024
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2026/06/30 23:01:52
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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[DCM]
Social Justice Death Knight
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Shakalooloo wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Sorcerers have always been decently armoured and good fighters by wizard standards.
It rarely happened in actual games, but I am pretty sure back in WHFB a Chaos Sorcerer would also pick up something like an Empire Battle Wizard and just break them over their knee.
Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Yeah, back when a standard formula explained increasing hero / wizard statlines in 4th and 5th edition, a Chaos Sorcerer was using a Chaos Warrior as a base back when a CW had a statline just 2 attacks and 2 wounds below a top-level human Lord...
And I always was a huge fan of that. A Chaos Sorcerer is still a Chaos Warrior with all that entails. To quote Archaon himself: "You think I am not versed in the arcane? HAH!"
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2026/07/01 03:13:46
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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The New Miss Macross!
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http://www.solegends.com/ It's a great resource for old miniature lines and the website has been around for almost 30 years. While I didn't see these particular ogres when I looked, I'd probably start looking at the late 80s/early 90s catalogue entries judging by the look of the sculpting.
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2026/07/01 04:04:29
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
Dallas, Tx
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Fayric wrote:Chaos sorcerers beeing able to hide in chaos armour make me think they could be corupted nobles dabling in the dark arts and teleporting to the battlefield to do their twisted art incognito. But this dragon mage look like he live a long and hard life hidden in a cave close to a bar that dont ask to many questions.
Don’t ask too many questions! Lmao. That was good. I love the hermit look. Reminds me of the wanderer.
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ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+ |
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2026/07/01 16:19:16
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Some nice images. I wonder if these will be the next battlemarch forces?
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2026/07/01 16:21:27
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2fhitgkn/warhammer-the-old-world-battle-march-designers-notes/
Excellent little read this, like the idea of the Random Happenings for a smaller scale game. Really looking forward to where GW are going with TOW.
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2026/07/01 16:23:32
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is that HE Sea Guard Captain a new Model? I don't know that one...
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2026/07/01 16:31:12
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Powerful Irongut
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RazorEdge wrote:Is that HE Sea Guard Captain a new Model? I don't know that one...
It's included in the Lothern Skycutter and can be put on a separate base.
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2026/07/01 19:18:10
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
Dallas, Tx
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Yep I still have that on a plastic sprue somewhere from my time spent playing 8th
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ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+ |
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2026/07/01 21:21:34
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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Mr_Rose wrote: Platuan4th wrote: Ashiraya wrote:Chaos Lords being the best fighters in the game ( YMMV if you rate Vampire Lords higher, iirc they were both so strong everyone else was below them) made them obviously overshadow the Sorcerers, but the Sorcerers were far from helpless.
Especially in 6th when MoT just straight made a Chaos Lord a Lvl4 Wizard.
Fun times. Forever running out of magic items points because they could do too much. Beatstick or sage? Plus the Mark was so expensive you never had more than one lord and one hero.
Didn't often need more than that.
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
  
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2026/07/02 03:35:03
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Central Valley, California
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It's exciting. Looking forward to seeing more. We are pretty stoked on the thought of some really narrative battle development.
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~ Shrap
Rolling 1's for five and a half decades.
AoS * OPR Grimdark Future * Konflikt '47 * Trench Crusade * Epic Warpath * A Song of Ice & Fire TMG * Starcraft TMG |
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