[Trench Crusade] Skirmish game by Tuomas Pirinen

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**Overread**

Platuan4th wrote:
Overread wrote:
I wonder if they'll wait till June to put the STLs on individual sale.

STLs go up for sale in January, already addressed.

Ahh nice!

Platuan4th wrote:

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chaos0xomega wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
That's more like a calendar?

Looks like a roadmap to me.

Blackfang has a very specific definition of what a roadmap is.

Does it need a road on it and a "you are here" arrow?

**lord_blackfang**

Well there's just two items I see on the roadmap

"Kickstarter fulfilled" and "Campaign pack"

The rest is just... stuff that's happening independently of the company?

**Fayric**

"End of September, you skip October and take a right turn, there you will soon see Belgium, so just ask someone in a gasmask for the tournament hall".

**Platuan4th**

lord_blackfang wrote:
The rest is just... stuff that's happening independently of the company?

Those are official events the company is attending/running, so not really?

**Bonegrinder**

Not news, but a video by the modular trench creator for TC with some quick tips on printing the terrain some might find useful.

Spoiler:

**Tabletop_Magpie**

I am baffled how that was designed without a straight bottom or sides.

**lord_blackfang**

Tabletop_Magpie wrote:
I am baffled how that was designed without a straight bottom or sides.

Video game sculptors, not printing sculptors.

**Tabletop_Magpie**

Ah I see! Cheers mate.

**pancakeonions**

Huh, was it just coincidence, or did Trench Crusade begin its life as a possible video game?

**beast_gts**

Tuomas Pirinen wrote:++ THE TRENCH. CRUSADE RULES V1.6. ARE NOW AVAILABLE ++

Now with the Trench Pilgrim variant of St. Methodius! As always, rules can be downloaded free of charge at Link

Attached is the changelog which you can view to see what has changed.

Happy gaming!

Changelog

**lord_blackfang**

Machine armour cannot be combined with any shield.

Heavy Ballistic Sheild 15 ducats (Models wearing Machine Armour only)

A few paragraphs apart in the changelog. Good night everybody

**JimmyWolf87**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Machine armour cannot be combined with any shield.

Heavy Ballistic Sheild 15 ducats (Models wearing Machine Armour only)

A few paragraphs apart in the changelog. Good night everybody

Fun error. Thankfully one with a clear RAI within the context of the rules for the Heavy Ballistic Shield.

**JWBS**

pancakeonions wrote:
Huh, was it just coincidence, or did Trench Crusade begin its life as a possible video game?

No, Pirinen and Franchina are balls deep in the table top industry, there just happens to be crossover for the design talent. If you are looking for TC video game stuff though I recommend you follow Trench Tales https://x.com/trench_tales

**JimmyWolf87**

JWBS wrote:
pancakeonions wrote:
Huh, was it just coincidence, or did Trench Crusade begin its life as a possible video game?

No, Pirinen and Franchina are balls deep in the table top industry, there just happens to be crossover for the design talent.

Pirinen's day job is as a games writer for Sony I believe? Regardless, yes, don't believe it was ever envisaged as anything but a TT project.

**chaos0xomega**

Both of them are "balls deep" in the video game industry. Pirinen obviously has his history with tabletop games but also (currently) works in the video game industry. Franchina has been doing concept art for video games for a long time, not sure that hes ever done tabletop tbh.

**Shakalooloo**

The original Trench Crusade concept art was just that: concept art. It wasn't for any particular end project, and could easily have been used for a video game if that opportunity presented itself before the tabletop did.

**beast_gts**

Trench Crusade wrote:++ ANDY CHAMBERS JOINS THE CRUSADE ++

Trench Crusade team is proud to welcome the Horned Rat himself, Andy Chambers into the permanent design team!

With a career spanning over 3 decades, and covering an incredible multitude of landmark games from Warhammer 40K to Starcraft II, there is no-one we can think of who would be better suited to created new rules and lore for the game.

Andy is one of the most in-demand game designers in the world, so we only have him with us for 1 full day a week, but as Tuomas who has worked years with Andy said, he can achieve in a day what many others would spend a month on.

We also asked Andy to say a few words to the Trench Crusade community:
"Greetings lost souls, I'm so deeply honoured that Tuomas has welcomed me onboard for Trench Crusade. I'd been watching it develop with great interest from afar for quite a while, of course, how could I not? But it was well served by a very dedicated and talented crew, and certainly didn't need Andy's size ten boots clomping around in it when I've got a bit of a storied history with the old grimdark already. Then you people, you glorious, insane people, came along and backed it like the last trumpet of the apocalypse had sounded. It got huge, massive like no-one had foreseen. With that kind of a overwhelming response Tuomas asked me to poke my beak in on the games rules side specifically, and poke I shall; not only because Tuomas is a fine and noble fellow to work with, and not only because he'll pay me, but because I hope my experience with wrangling tabletop game rules for the past 34 years might have taught me something about the process. As always, we shall see about that... together."

**Platuan4th**

Shakalooloo wrote:
The original Trench Crusade concept art was just that: concept art. It wasn't for any particular end project, and could easily have been used for a video game if that opportunity presented itself before the tabletop did.

This. The art just started as art for a setting, then they made some models, then there was enough demand for a game for those models that they made the game. There was no game when the first Kickstarter launched and ended. They announced it sometime between ending and fulfillment.

**Angronsrosycheeks**

Ok, this might be enough to get me on board. I can't think of a game of his that was objectively bad, and some like Starship Troopers were fantastic for their time.

**lord_blackfang**

Yea now they have some actual rules talent on board, next edition gonna be lit

**chaos0xomega**

Platuan4th wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
The original Trench Crusade concept art was just that: concept art. It wasn't for any particular end project, and could easily have been used for a video game if that opportunity presented itself before the tabletop did.

This. The art just started as art for a setting, then they made some models, then there was enough demand for a game for those models that they made the game. There was no game when the first Kickstarter launched and ended. They announced it sometime between ending and fulfillment.

Iirc thats not true, they announced theyd be working on a game at some point durung the first campaign

**Platuan4th**

chaos0xomega wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
Shakalooloo wrote:
The original Trench Crusade concept art was just that: concept art. It wasn't for any particular end project, and could easily have been used for a video game if that opportunity presented itself before the tabletop did.

This. The art just started as art for a setting, then they made some models, then there was enough demand for a game for those models that they made the game. There was no game when the first Kickstarter launched and ended. They announced it sometime between ending and fulfillment.

Iirc thats not true, they announced theyd be working on a game at some point durung the first campaign

Yes, I stated that. It was between the end and fulfillment, I believe while the Backerkit was running, though I'd have to check my exact emails. Enough people asked for a game to use them and they complied.

**pancakeonions**

Angronsrosycheeks wrote:
Ok, this might be enough to get me on board. I can't think of a game of his that was objectively bad, and some like Starship Troopers were fantastic for their time.

Sounds like he may just be on board to batten the hatches and tighten a few screws. The game itself is pretty simple, and quite fun. Despite its simplicity, I still manage to forget lots of special rules and dice over the course of one game, but perhaps that's more the player and less the ruleset...

**modelhunter**

Is it correct you can purchased printed 3d mini's for this game from some the common site (eg Etsy)? If so, what is the quality like?

**pgmason**

modelhunter wrote:
Is it correct you can purchased printed 3d mini's for this game from some the common site (eg Etsy)? If so, what is the quality like?

You shouldn't be able to get prints of the official miniatures from Etsy, as the only licence for physical prints will be OnlyGames once the physical KS rewards have shipped. STLs are available now from MyMinifactory but you'll need to either print them yourself or get someone to print them for you.

There are various other companies doing trench crusade adjacent models or conversion parts, mostly as STLs, but probably some of them do physical prints as well. I haven't really looked into it.

**JamesY**

Loads of people resell pirated stls and prints on etsy. It's rife with it.

**highlord tamburlaine**

There's also a bunch of sculpts "inspired" by the official ones.

Some are nice interpretations, obvious what inspired them, some are blatant knock offs.

But yeah, Etsy these days is a bit like Amazon marketplace in having to sift through all the chaff to get to what you were actually looking for.

**JamesY**

It is frustrating. I have a small etsy shop, and the rules on hand made, vs the enforcement of those rules clearly err on the side of maximum profits, rather than creative integrity.

**Laughing Man**

Kickstarter for the new Red Brigade subfaction of New Antioch went live today! Technically 3rd party miniatures, but rules and lore are 1st party.

**lord_blackfang**

The price on that absurd, but clearly TC dragged in a whole new demographic with deep deep pockets into the indy sphere and I hope we don't see rapid gentrification here.

For the rest of us, here's a TC project that looks a tad larger and is literally 1/15th the price

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blackcobraminiatures/trench-pilgrim-warband-and-terrain