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What can I say that Curtis Fell has not already?

https://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/home/645-dark-brexit-the-broken-chain.html

A unique work of art, Dark Brexit: The Broken Chain represents my frustration at the loss of business due to Brexit. You can read an article about the set on the Ramshackle Games main web site.

ALL EU CUSTOMERS CAN GET THIS SET ADDED TO AN ORDER FOR FREE! This is a small way Ramshackle Games can add value to cover any import fees.

At 15GBP I might get it. Mostly for throne dude, but Britannia shooting herself in the foot is also worth it.

Probably worth it just for The Hair… except I don’t want that aggressively offensive floppy mess anywhere near me.

Considering how absolutely furious Brexit makes me, I have to admit I chuckled when I saw this. Fair play to Ramshackle Games. Spitting Image level of clever.

Removed.

I appreciate this but I'm still not going to fight with the sociopaths at customs for mail from the UK for it..

I have to admit that I wasn't aware of your business before this but these minis certainly drew my eye, so now I'm checking everything out and will have to enter some negotiations with my partner.

Ramshackle is a cool company, I liked to order from. Got all my Space Dwarf Bikers from them.

While I tried to order from the UK still, albeit much fewer, all the last orders at several UK companies got stuck and rejected by customs, despite being correctly labled. At this point it isn't woth the hassle anymore...

Damn that Brexit mess. I hate it not just because I can't get my miniature crack as easily, but because it is a huge tragedy that something like that divides us. I like mi bri'ish buddies and want all of us to be a happy family.

Yeah, I must admit that "shipping from the UK" is a label that has become quite toxic, as it almost always entails a lot of trouble.

If it wasn't shipped from UK might get something just for this lolz...But yeah shipped from UK is pretty much deal breaker for me.

And vice versa, ordering from outside UK is a red flag.

Brexit bleeding all companies that import export.

 NAVARRO wrote:
And vice versa, ordering from outside UK is a red flag.

Brexit bleeding all companies that import export.

It's not a picnic for anyone, that's for certain >_>

But you should look at the positives as well as the negatives. And then email those positives to the government as they still have an open request for them to be identified.

Ramshakle is an awesome company, especially if you're looking to kitbash vehicles.

 NAVARRO wrote:
And vice versa, ordering from outside UK is a red flag.

Brexit bleeding all companies that import export.

Nah, I voted stay and I'm very indifferent on the issue, but this why I've lost sympathy for the opposite view. It isn't good try to bully a nation into a democratically rejected political union by telling them it's ruining customs instead of just fixing customs instead, that makes no sense to me.

 Garfield666 wrote:
While I tried to order from the UK still, albeit much fewer, all the last orders at several UK companies got stuck and rejected by customs, despite being correctly labled. At this point it isn't woth the hassle anymore...

If the paperwork was filled out correctly, this seems like a "spiteful EU" issue, rather than anything being done wrong by the UK companies.

They may want to try the carrot at some point, rather than the bludgeon.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Garfield666 wrote:
While I tried to order from the UK still, albeit much fewer, all the last orders at several UK companies got stuck and rejected by customs, despite being correctly labled. At this point it isn't woth the hassle anymore...

If the paperwork was filled out correctly, this seems like a "spiteful EU" issue, rather than anything being done wrong by the UK companies.

They may want to try the carrot at some point, rather than the bludgeon.

Sigh the typical simplistic blame shift...
Rules and laws changed regarding commercial and private shipping and with that every EU country needs to adjust theirs, it's a VERY complex bureaucratic mess all over EU and UK now. I ship both ways from both and guess what? Both changed for the worse.

Companies are in for a long adjustment period and I just hope they have the power to endure this freaking mess. Meanwhile people and companies lose out.

Don’t forget the only advice was “Get Ready For Brexit!” despite no details being given until the 11th Hour.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ramshakle is an awesome company, especially if you're looking to kitbash vehicles.

I wholeheartedly agree. I barely do the warhams anymore but I have very fond memories of the stuff I have gotten from Ramshackle when I was peak Orks. Curtis is good people to boot.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 Garfield666 wrote:
While I tried to order from the UK still, albeit much fewer, all the last orders at several UK companies got stuck and rejected by customs, despite being correctly labled. At this point it isn't woth the hassle anymore...

If the paperwork was filled out correctly, this seems like a "spiteful EU" issue, rather than anything being done wrong by the UK companies.

They may want to try the carrot at some point, rather than the bludgeon.

Sigh the typical simplistic blame shift...
Rules and laws changed regarding commercial and private shipping and with that every EU country needs to adjust theirs, it's a VERY complex bureaucratic mess all over EU and UK now. I ship both ways from both and guess what? Both changed for the worse.

Companies are in for a long adjustment period and I just hope they have the power to endure this freaking mess. Meanwhile people and companies lose out.

It's no more typical, simplistic and blame shifting than "Muh Brexit is bad for customs".

Fair play on this release, I guess if you didn't laugh then you'd have to cry. A friend of mine who works in imports/exports had remarked that all of this car-crash affair has made him want to kill himself, so this sort of miniature release is probably a better alternative.

I like Ramshackle, very characterful miniatures I've used some of their stuff for Fallout and Necromunda, now is probably a good time to support them if you were thinking of buying!

JWBS wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
And vice versa, ordering from outside UK is a red flag.

Brexit bleeding all companies that import export.

Nah, I voted stay and I'm very indifferent on the issue, but this why I've lost sympathy for the opposite view. It isn't good try to bully a nation into a democratically rejected political union by telling them it's ruining customs instead of just fixing customs instead, that makes no sense to me.

On a closer look, you may find out that „fixing customs“ is something that the EU actually did (for its members). UK is simply returning to the rules that apply when you‘re not part of the customs union, and the UK very emphatically did not want to be part of that.

Thereby making a better EU>>UK customs process impossible, I see.

JWBS wrote:
Thereby making a better EU>>UK customs process impossible, I see.

I mean, it's not impossible, but for that to happen there needs to be concessions from both parts, not just the EU, you know.

Kinda like the whole kerfuffle with the Northern Ireland and Gibraltar customs issues. There have been EU proposals in the double digits, by now, but it seems none to the liking of the UK government, so here we are still.

I really hope the NI issue gets resolved eventually at least, but there are clear reasons as to why there's no agreement in place at this moment, and it mostly boils down to "we're so very special and you should treat us as such, although it's of no benefit whatsoever to you, so you will just have to agree to have no customs at NI even though we have different regulations that need to be heeded now (ours are less stringent, of course), and you just have to deal with it and leave a completely open customs entry from NI for all our products".

So yeah, for there to be a better customs process in place there needs to be a quid pro quo of some sort, not just a "gimme". That's a solid fact. That the EU has a stronger bargaining position is also a fact, and there are no reasons why they should give the UK a special treatment or a free pass, unless the UK offers something. Because the UK didn't want to be partners anymore, and unilaterally decided to break away. So they get to be treated as any other country outside the EU, until they manage to offer something in return.

And so, here we are.

Considering we had David Frost up to bat, a man whose idea of negotiation is simply to shout louder than everyone else, it is no wonder Brexit was a cock up of galactic proportions.

I'm not surprised people still think it's a good idea but some people would rather eat their own gak than admit they made a mistake.

I shouldn't expect much from this reddit tier analysis Albertorius, but the people of the EU would actually benefit, that's the core of your complaint - the current situation could be better for you, and EU appreciator.

JWBS wrote:
I shouldn't expect much from this reddit tier analysis Albertorius, but the people of the EU would actually benefit, that's the core of your complaint - the current situation could be better for you, and EU appreciator.

How would be better for the EU to give the UK, and only the UK, the benefit of not going through EU customs to sell their stuff? (and be able to enter the totality of the Schengen Space markets, with its 27 countries) The UK already know the EU products are up to UK regulation because it has stronger regulations, after all, while the opposite is not the case, so it's of no benefit whatsoever for EU products.

What is it that UK is offering the EU that would specifically benefit it, other than "we're here"? And what's different in that regard than doing business with Canada, Australia, China or the USA, for example? Because those are bound to exactly the same customs regulations except in the specific markets where there are other agreements in place. Which is also actually the same for the UK, mind.

JWBS wrote:
I shouldn't expect much from this reddit tier analysis Albertorius, but the people of the EU would actually benefit, that's the core of your complaint - the current situation could be better for you, and EU appreciator.

The benefits of Brexit? At 5 to 10 on a Sunday morning? On a Warhammer forum? Better get the world media here quick because we're all dying to find out what they might be!

I'd rather not have to delete or close this thread. It's about some cute political parody models.

And Ramshackle in general if anyone has anything to add on them.

That's fair, of course. Moving on.

Albertorius wrote:

JWBS wrote:
I shouldn't expect much from this reddit tier analysis Albertorius, but the people of the EU would actually benefit, that's the core of your complaint - the current situation could be better for you, and EU appreciator.

How would be better for the EU to give the UK, and only the UK, the benefit of not going through EU customs to sell their stuff? The UK already know the EU products are up to UK regulation because it has stronger regulations, after all, while the opposite is not the case, so it's of no benefit whatsoever for EU products.

What is it that UK is offering the EU that would specifically benefit it, other than "we're here"? And what's different in that regard than doing business with Canada, Australia, China or the USA, for example? Because those are bound to exactly the same customs regulations except in the specific markets where there are other agreements in place. Which is also actually the same for the UK, mind.

The current system is not good and no one likes it on either side, but it will stay as it is because it wouldn't benefit the EU to change it, but also it's still the fault of the UK.

Olthannon wrote:

JWBS wrote:
I shouldn't expect much from this reddit tier analysis Albertorius, but the people of the EU would actually benefit, that's the core of your complaint - the current situation could be better for you, and EU appreciator.

The benefits of Brexit? At 5 to 10 on a Sunday morning? On a Warhammer forum? Better get the world media here quick because we're all dying to find out what they might be!

Discussing the poor state of UK/EU customs and what could be done to benefit importers and exporters from both regions, not the potential benefits of Brexit.