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I feel like they would have had more backers if they had of included the Heavies as an earlier unlock. I don't know how many people want hounds or horses, but I would say the market for traitor Kasrkin or similar is a lot higher. Would have helped raise the fundraising amount further. I would make mine into a 40k version of Sardaukar from Dune to use as traitor Solar Auxilia, but with a few modifications to make them less busted up.

Oh well, let's hope they bring them out sometime in the future.

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TheDamned-Creator
19/06/2023 04:20

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Heating up. Less than $18k to Arty and less than $48k to Heavy Infantry (wait did I let that slip?)

so i don't think the heavies are out of reach

 lord_blackfang wrote:

GrosseSax wrote:

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Really wish they had of brought in the Heavy troops earlier. I don't really want any of the regulars, but the Heavies would be amazing. I don't know if they'll make it to $250k, but one can always hope.

I suppose it's possible as there is a typically a group of last minute backers. I think we'll at least get to the artillery.

I fear that effect might apply a lot less to Gamefound campaigns. Kickstarter only alerts non-backers who "saved" the project at the 48 hour mark so the email stands out. Gamefound bombards followers with daily updates so by the last day they've either already backed or tuned it out. My personal observation of course.

This is an excellent observation. Now that we are in the final stretch, I do wonder if WGA should show off whatever pix it has of the unlocked sprues so current backers can start salivating. Alternatively, if WGA has done a little research and already knows (roughly) what the heavies, arty, beastmen, truck/apc will bring in, then unlock now and let all the 40k army listers plan their new renegade/traitor guard regiments. Of course, that depends on WGA’s market research and production capabilities and scheduling, of which I know nothing, so I say these things in the spirit of spitballing.)

I do think, however, that WGA has been very responsive to the community’s feedback on the sprues, and that they would generate more interest by showing us more and then revising based on feedback. Those interactions seem (maybe they have actual metrics on this) to have generated the most discussion and interest thus far of the “okay now I’m in for 10 boxes” variety.

Just my two cents in the spirit of constructive criticism and not complaining at all (personally I went from “eh, maybe I’ll pick up 1 box after the campaign to a first day backer” based on WGA’s response to lord blackfang’s suggestions/criticisms in the comment section and the new pix they were showing off just before launch).

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
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TheDamned-Creator
19/06/2023 04:20

CREATOR
Heating up. Less than $18k to Arty and less than $48k to Heavy Infantry (wait did I let that slip?)

so i don't think the heavies are out of reach

I hope so. I am curious though about some of the hinted goals and what WGA will hopefully do with them. Unfortunately I feel like this campaign ran up against the juggernaut that is a new 40k edition. I mean if feels like it sucked all the oxygen out of the room. Its to the point, I question what Miniwargaming did for this campaign, beyond the initial bump? I expected a lot more from them (but then 40k happened).

Anyway, here's hoping the rest of the teased kits will get made, especially a Main Battle Tank.

1004 backers so that one's in the can


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They’re finally showing some of the non-damned heads, which is nice for kitbashing. And the 3mm bases are finally available. I figure 48 textured bases for $15 is pretty good.


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Heavy infantry won the poll. Unlocked at 250k. Beastmen at 270k.


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Updated list:
• Damned Infantry - 6 to a sprue so 4 sprues to a box.
• Damned Brutes - 3 to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Weapons teams - 4 crew to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Command - 6 to a sprue so 2 sprues to a box.
• Damned outriders - 3 to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Hounds - 2 handlers and 4 hounds to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Female Infantry - 6 to a sprue so 4 sprues to a box.
* Damned Heavy Infantry - 6 to a sprue, 4 sprues to a box (if unlocked)
• Raumjager Infantry - 4 bodies to a sprue
• Les Grognards Infantry - 3 bodies to a sprue
• Les Grognards Heads - 24 heads to a sprue
• Les Grognards Command and Heavy support - 2 weapons and 4 bodies per sprue (I think)
• Einherjar - 3 bodies to a sprue
• Bulldogs - 6 bodies to a sprue
• Ooh Rah - 6 bodies to a sprue
• Harvester Alien Bugs - 4 big bugs and 2 small bugs to a sprue
• Deathfields Weapon Upgrade Sprue - 40 weapons and items to a sprue
• Cannon Fodder 2 Females - 5 bodies to a sprue
• Cannon Fodder Male Bodies - 5 bodies to a sprue
* Cannon Fodder Arms and Equipment - guns and back packs
* 25mm bases (2mm or 3mm thickness) - 24 to a sprue

Man the welding mask heads for Heavies are fantastic

Would be nice if the 360 people who voted on the poll but aren't backers would put some money in

Non-Damned look cool.

Why this mortar has a shield?

It's A) not how mortars work, B) on wrong side, and C) the bottom armor plate makes it unable to be aimed quickly and is completely pointless (plus, hilariously enough, gun lacks the bottom recoil plate which would make it fly into a random direction after each shot - if this bit really has to be there, repurpose it as recoil plate, it will instantly become 10x more realistic weapon).

Also I am puzzled why missile launcher ammo box has handles in correct position (horizontal) when every other gun ammo supply has vertical ones, making them extremely awkward to use - either dudes carrying the box need to rotate it each time before picking up/putting down or they destroy their wrists and fingers trying to carry it in default position...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Man the welding mask heads for Heavies are fantastic

It's not welding mask, it's Russian Altyn/Lynx series of helmets with bulletproof face shield: https://equipment.fandom.com/wiki/Lynx

Well, my suspicions were infunded, the artillery is going to get unlocked very soon!

Now, will it reach the heavy infantry and the beastmen? Can a man dream?

I like the heavy weapon changes, making them less jerry rigged. Some scratches, patches or spikes might be good but it's hard so you don't end up with every weapon with the exact same haphazard design.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Non-Damned look cool.

Dunno, you still have the spikes and the homegrown armor. I think people looking for more sane future infantry should look elsewhere.

Artillery unlocked by US$97 when I checked at 1016 UK time.

I may have to go to 15 boxes!

I'm on 2x3, if the Heavies unlock I might go to 3x3

Whatever you do don't get the 10 box pledge, all the other ones have a better plastic/money ratio.

Updated:
• Damned Infantry - 6 to a sprue so 4 sprues to a box.
• Damned Brutes - 3 to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Weapons teams - 4 crew to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Command - 6 to a sprue so 2 sprues to a box.
• Damned outriders - 3 to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Hounds - 2 handlers and 4 hounds to a sprue so 3 sprues to a box.
• Damned Female Infantry - 6 to a sprue so 4 sprues to a box.
• Damned Artillery - 1 artillery piece + 3 crew to a sprue, 3 sprues to a box
* Damned Heavy Infantry - 6 to a sprue, 4 sprues to a box (if unlocked)
• Raumjager Infantry - 4 bodies to a sprue
• Les Grognards Infantry - 3 bodies to a sprue
• Les Grognards Heads - 24 heads to a sprue
• Les Grognards Command and Heavy support - 2 weapons and 4 bodies per sprue (I think)
• Einherjar - 3 bodies to a sprue
• Bulldogs - 6 bodies to a sprue
• Ooh Rah - 6 bodies to a sprue
• Harvester Alien Bugs - 4 big bugs and 2 small bugs to a sprue
• Deathfields Weapon Upgrade Sprue - 40 weapons and items to a sprue
• Cannon Fodder 2 Females - 6 bodies to a sprue
• Cannon Fodder Male Bodies - 5 bodies to a sprue
* Cannon Fodder Arms and Equipment - guns and back packs
* 25mm bases (2mm or 3mm thickness) - 24 to a sprue

Happy that we are now on to the Heavy infantry but a little disappointed that the Mutations sprue seems to be gone as an option or is going to be too far out.

If the heavies unlock then I'm in for the 3 box deal.

So far I'm looking at the women and the hounds, but I don't really need 2 boxes of either.

Right now i want the brutes and i'd like the heavies.

But it does seem unlikly that we see the heavies.

Is my count correct that if you did all the things and we get to the Heavy Infantry at $250k, that will be 19 free sprues for the 5 box pledge?

 legionaires wrote:
Is my count correct that if you did all the things and we get to the Heavy Infantry at $250k, that will be 19 free sprues for the 5 box pledge?

afaik and i played around with the 5 box deal , yes, it's 17 now, +2 before the heavy infantry is there.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Right now i want the brutes and i'd like the heavies.

But it does seem unlikly that we see the heavies.

Hard to say. It’s at $227k now. Probably will unlock heavies. I’m more worried about the beastmen at 270.

To add to Fugazi's list

3-box & 5-box pledge: $4.3 per sprue
10-box pledge: $4.8 per sprue
15-box pledge: $4.1 per sprue

Assuming you always take the optimal 4-sprue boxes

Petition to the Designers: Could we just try the "Toyota Hilux" rocket pod meme for the "Earthquake -Terrae Motus" APC, please? Last ingredient left to this awesome "insurgent chic" hotpot, since the balaclava, spikes and AK47 are already baked in.

URSS rocket pods nicely intersect the Venn Diagram between Orks, Insurgents, and post-apoc Varsaw pact, besides being widely represented in the MLRS/artillery ruleset space. It might just be too good of a chance to pass up🤣

(Or maybe on the heavy artillery frame, should there miraculously be some free space?)

Welll... we coudl actually get to theh eavy infantry! Wow, now that we're coming I'm beginning to even want it and all.

Btw is it me or the artillery can't be added as free sprues?

It has been a very good penultimate day despite my doubts regarding Gamefound's reminder system. Fingers crossed for 250k.

$20,153 till the Heavy infantry

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I like the heavy weapon changes, making them less jerry rigged. Some scratches, patches or spikes might be good but it's hard so you don't end up with every weapon with the exact same haphazard design.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Non-Damned look cool.

Dunno, you still have the spikes and the homegrown armor. I think people looking for more sane future infantry should look elsewhere.

Maybe it's not feasible for some reason, but seems like sprue tooling could be split into two half size sprues as long as it was about the same area on the same size mold.

You'd loose a bit of space on the sprue, but having HW sprues separate from figures would allow for much more flexibility in terms of future sets. A kit for a new faction could reuse the HW's and just swap in a new half-sprue of crew. The weapon shields that match the style of a given crew could even be located on that particular crew's sprue. I think also of the way that early mantic used fantasy sprues with half the sprue new (though they were connected) for the first generation of their forgefathers figures.

I do really like the lean into having not-damned head options on every sprue though. There's a huge area in 40k lore for IG units that are ramshackle or primitive, but not evil.

Modified my pledge. In for 3 boxes. Brutes, Outriders, Hounds. All things that would benefit my not-damned-but-gas-masked Imperial Guard (Brutes, Outriders) and my Chaos/Varrangur KoW army (Hounds). Will get a smattering of the other infantry sets to have some Damned skirmish options and lots for my bits box and probably also alot of bases. I love the ease of use and modification of plastic scenic bases and there have been relatively few affordable options for that until now.

Garrac wrote:
Welll... we coudl actually get to theh eavy infantry! Wow, now that we're coming I'm beginning to even want it and all.

Btw is it me or the artillery can't be added as free sprues?

that has to be added manually so takes longer than just adding the boxes

but it's apparently now available

I am hoping we get to the vehicle... I would get 2 if we do... I would love if we had reached the alternate rough rider mounts... Motorcyles would be cool... I may try and get some of the gsc ones... but looks like they are about $15 each on e-bay...

Less than 24 hours left.

16k to heavy infantry.

36k to beastmen.