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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Also keep in mind the ‘Eavy Metal team paint prints, not the end kit. So droopy barrel may be an artefact of that process.

Its not only the barrel if you look at the gap between the turret-dome and the body its bigger at the back so the whole turret is slightly tilted (Just as if there was a bit of bluetack below it)

If the infantry are a little bigger and more detailed than their forebears, it makes the old concept of a mini/travel version of a 28mm game seem just about viable.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:


I’m mainly hoping that the inclusion of Solar Auxilia heralds good news to come about plastic Auxilia in the larger scale game.

Given these start as 3d renders, I am hopeful for that as well. A new walker also just makes it feel likely. Plus, moving it to plastic will pump more life into the Heresy game, which they'll want to do as we get away from it's initial release.

Depending on price and ruleset I'm in. I already have a semi large titanicus collection.

 Albertorius wrote:
Does anyone remember how much the old Epic 40k was on release? I kinda would like to know how much that was in today's moneys

Whatever it was, treble it (at minimum) to get the modern GW price.

As for "Legiones Imperialis"...oh good, it's the bloody Heresy again. So that's now three games perpetuating this tedious, bled-dry part of the settings' history. Just how many times does Marine Vs Marine (oh, and Not-Imperial-Guard, I suppose) need to be played out?

That's not even getting into the issues of rules quality (GW are not exactly front runners on that score), model price (I dread to think how much they'll rush you for a couple of stands of tiny infantry) or long-term support (Aeronautica says hello from the Pit of Neglect).

I really can't decide if this would be worth going all in on.

As long as I can keep using my vanguard minis alongside, I don't mind retiring my collection of original marines.

I'd not retire my vanguard minis though- I have thousands and its just too vast a collection to swap.

I would have dropped my entire collection had this been Marines Vs Orks though (or some variation). I'd had even considered selling of my entire WFB collection had this been a 40k era release.

I am glad the terrain is coming back and hopefully it will come back in discounted sets, the AT buildings are lovely but way to expensive for Epic scale battles.

I'd *love* to settle into this game as my main wargame going forward, Epic scale 40k has always been my absolute favourite 'genre'. But I just don't trust GW to not milk this release like other games they have brought back, and I'd certainly would want to know that Orks were coming at some point before spending that much time on any one game.

would be cool had heard FOR THE EMPEROR in tiny voice haha

 MalusCalibur wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Does anyone remember how much the old Epic 40k was on release? I kinda would like to know how much that was in today's moneys

Whatever it was, treble it (at minimum) to get the modern GW price.

As for "Legiones Imperialis"...oh good, it's the bloody Heresy again. So that's now three games perpetuating this tedious, bled-dry part of the settings' history. Just how many times does Marine Vs Marine (oh, and Not-Imperial-Guard, I suppose) need to be played out?

That's not even getting into the issues of rules quality (GW are not exactly front runners on that score), model price (I dread to think how much they'll rush you for a couple of stands of tiny infantry) or long-term support (Aeronautica says hello from the Pit of Neglect).

If you don*t like the setting, the models, the rules, the prices, the support and the company, why are you even here?

Tsagualsa wrote:

 MalusCalibur wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Does anyone remember how much the old Epic 40k was on release? I kinda would like to know how much that was in today's moneys

Whatever it was, treble it (at minimum) to get the modern GW price.

As for "Legiones Imperialis"...oh good, it's the bloody Heresy again. So that's now three games perpetuating this tedious, bled-dry part of the settings' history. Just how many times does Marine Vs Marine (oh, and Not-Imperial-Guard, I suppose) need to be played out?

That's not even getting into the issues of rules quality (GW are not exactly front runners on that score), model price (I dread to think how much they'll rush you for a couple of stands of tiny infantry) or long-term support (Aeronautica says hello from the Pit of Neglect).

If you don*t like the setting, the models, the rules, the prices, the support and the company, why are you even here?

Maybe they're fans of the fandom?

Sarouan wrote:

Iracundus wrote:


Now where are the Xenos?

It's Legions Imperialis, the title of the game. No xenos, just Horus Heresy.

Plot twist, aeronautica was released to test the demand for xenos in this scale, not enough people bought it so they decided to stick with imperium/traitors only.

Solar auxilia, Titanicus and Aeronautica aren't Space Marine.

I'm surprised they even has the fund for Titan and Solar Auxillia.

Comparing today starter box with 1997 makes no sense.
I pray for a decent ruleset instead.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 MalusCalibur wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Does anyone remember how much the old Epic 40k was on release? I kinda would like to know how much that was in today's moneys

Whatever it was, treble it (at minimum) to get the modern GW price.

As for "Legiones Imperialis"...oh good, it's the bloody Heresy again. So that's now three games perpetuating this tedious, bled-dry part of the settings' history. Just how many times does Marine Vs Marine (oh, and Not-Imperial-Guard, I suppose) need to be played out?

That's not even getting into the issues of rules quality (GW are not exactly front runners on that score), model price (I dread to think how much they'll rush you for a couple of stands of tiny infantry) or long-term support (Aeronautica says hello from the Pit of Neglect).

If you don*t like the setting, the models, the rules, the prices, the support and the company, why are you even here?

'
Complaining about GW is primary hobby of many in dakka dakka.

Friendship ended with Warhammer 40,000. Warhammer The Horus Heresy Legions Imperialis is my best friend. I met him 2 hours ago but if anything happened to him, I would kill everyone in the room and then myself.

I hope this expresses how excited I am. I bought a bunch of Titanicus stuff and had nobody local to play against so I just paint it for fun. Now I can actually use it!

tneva82 wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 MalusCalibur wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Does anyone remember how much the old Epic 40k was on release? I kinda would like to know how much that was in today's moneys

Whatever it was, treble it (at minimum) to get the modern GW price.

As for "Legiones Imperialis"...oh good, it's the bloody Heresy again. So that's now three games perpetuating this tedious, bled-dry part of the settings' history. Just how many times does Marine Vs Marine (oh, and Not-Imperial-Guard, I suppose) need to be played out?

That's not even getting into the issues of rules quality (GW are not exactly front runners on that score), model price (I dread to think how much they'll rush you for a couple of stands of tiny infantry) or long-term support (Aeronautica says hello from the Pit of Neglect).

If you don*t like the setting, the models, the rules, the prices, the support and the company, why are you even here?

'
Complaining about GW is primary hobby of many in dakka dakka.

I just don't understand that mindset Why waste time that could be put towards something enjoyable or productive when there's literally nothing about 'the hobby' that you actually like to do? Seems stupid to me.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Sarouan wrote:

Iracundus wrote:


Now where are the Xenos?

It's Legions Imperialis, the title of the game. No xenos, just Horus Heresy.

Plot twist, aeronautica was released to test the demand for xenos in this scale, not enough people bought it so they decided to stick with imperium/traitors only.

I'd not put that past them actually, but that would be terrible market research

Johanxp wrote:
Comparing today starter box with 1997 makes no sense.
I pray for a decent ruleset instead.

Oh, sure, no sense whatsoever /s

And you have like four decent rulesets to choose from.

Johanxp wrote:
Comparing today starter box with 1997 makes no sense.
I pray for a decent ruleset instead.

Not really. The 1997 set came out at a highly inflated price for the time, yet was still pretty good value compared to many of their other games. Its still good value compared to many of their modern games. If anything, the starter box of today should be better value/better contents as they have had over 25 years to improve on it.

Whilst those new tanks are lovely models, there is no terrain in the new set, chances are there will be other books/rules that you'll need to buy, and whilst this is a guess- from the looks of the two 'opposing' forces in this new set, something tells me that the balance is going to swing towards the marines winning against a smaller amount of regular humans.

It makes perfect sense to compare this to what versions came before.

So how come they're the Legiones Astartes, but this game is Legions Imperialis (lacking that second 'e')?

 Shakalooloo wrote:
So how come they're the Legiones Astartes, but this game is Legions Imperialis (lacking that second 'e')?

Because GW's Latin isn't dog, it's mutt.

hold on...if that is the only things in the box...and a titan shoots...it will kill like 6 bases of troops so...1/4 of the army is dead...so....battles of 30min?

A Ruleset for fast and short Games, in an age with few time.

Wish they bring sperate Marines in Mk2, Mk3 & Mk4 too... - Tthey mentioned those Terminators as "Cataphractii" by their Variant - Tartaros seperate later?.

Note the Predator Commander comes in Mk2 Armour like his larger cousin.

 Kiiroitori wrote:
hold on...if that is the only things in the box...and a titan shoots...it will kill like 6 bases of troops so...1/4 of the army is dead...so....battles of 30min?

I'd expect it's probably not quite as much.

Also, are you doing something to make all your posts' text crazy ass big, or...

If you are, would you mind stopping? It's kind of annoying.

Sorry i use the phone to see this...and some of peoples texts appears tiny while mines appears (for me) normal size but seems you see them huge

:(

 Shakalooloo wrote:
So how come they're the Legiones Astartes, but this game is Legions Imperialis (lacking that second 'e')?

I suspect the game is Warhammer The Horus Heresy Legions, and the Imperialis bit is the box set name.

Some GREAT news for the existing community.

I hope he doesn't mind me posting this here, but Ian Wood (one of the main pillars of the Epic community) has done some Geometry on the photos, based on the size of a Warhound and base, and worked out an approx size of the new infantry. In summary, they are bigger than classic Epic, but not excessively so and should match well with existing proxy ranges.

Toofast wrote:
Friendship ended with Warhammer 40,000. Warhammer The Horus Heresy Legions Imperialis is my best friend. I met him 2 hours ago but if anything happened to him, I would kill everyone in the room and then myself.

I hope this expresses how excited I am. I bought a bunch of Titanicus stuff and had nobody local to play against so I just paint it for fun. Now I can actually use it!

Your Brooklyn 9.9 reference is noted, and deeply appreciated!

Tsagualsa wrote:
I just don't understand that mindset Why waste time that could be put towards something enjoyable or productive when there's literally nothing about 'the hobby' that you actually like to do? Seems stupid to me.

'The hobby' extends far beyond GW, and there are still plenty of aspects I enjoy entirely unconnected to them.
Commenting on a GW release is not the exclusive territory of those in the GW sphere. Commenting on a GW release is not mandated to be positive.
The real question is, don't you have anything better to do than be snide about others solely because they have a differing opinion? I've as much right as you have to be here and express it, so perhaps give the forum policing a rest.

 Kiiroitori wrote:
Sorry i use the phone to see this...and some of peoples texts appears tiny while mines appears (for me) normal size but seems you see them huge

:(

No problem, it was just weirding me out ^^. I'm reading this from a PC though.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
So how come they're the Legiones Astartes, but this game is Legions Imperialis (lacking that second 'e')?

I suspect the game is Warhammer The Horus Heresy Legions, and the Imperialis bit is the box set name.

The typesetting of the products seems to support this assumption:



Note also the small box saying 'Epic scale' in the lower left.