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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/28 21:22:34
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm definitely NOT building a drop pod with posable doors if it's FW resin. I have built enough AI/AT FW models to know I totally didn't enjoy the experience of supergluing my fingers as much as the model's tiny parts themselves.
As for the price, we'll just wait and see. History should teach us not to get hyped / angry in advance when we are still in the unknown.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/28 21:57:41
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Or we can adopt GW’s approach to the timeframe to the price: “it’ll be more than you think!”  I kid, I kid…
I didn’t expect drop pods with functional doors. I don’t think I expected drop pods at all, or at least not so soon. I didn’t have drop pods on my list of must-haves, like Rhinos. But now that I see them, I admit, I want them.
I don’t think any other game has made me wish I owned a 3D printer more than this one, but I don’t have time in my life to learn yet another hobby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 00:16:47
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah I was surprised by the pods, didn't expect them, at least not for a long time. It's funny too because the internet was sure after the solar aux fluff article that they had no more rabbits up their sleeve.
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 00:20:45
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Didn't we have drop pods for old Epic?
ISTR that they were basically just single piece plastic blobs, like the Rhinos.
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F - is the Fire that rains from the skies.
U - for Uranium Bomb!
N - is for No Survivors... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 00:25:24
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Executing Exarch
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SgtEeveell wrote:Didn't we have drop pods for old Epic?
ISTR that they were basically just single piece plastic blobs, like the Rhinos.
There were drop pods in v1. They were metal, and there were separate closed and opened pods, iirc - sold in the same blister.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 00:30:59
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
Oakland, CA
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Crablezworth wrote:Yeah I was surprised by the pods, didn't expect them, at least not for a long time...
It could be that the delay has caught up with the first round of follow up releases, so they could actually not have been planned for the initial release...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 00:35:14
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Executing Exarch
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schoon wrote: Crablezworth wrote:Yeah I was surprised by the pods, didn't expect them, at least not for a long time...
It could be that the delay has caught up with the first round of follow up releases, so they could actually not have been planned for the initial release...
That's true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 03:43:27
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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"sooner than we think" eh?
They still got the rest of the Cities of Sigmar line to release.
But, Warhammer Day is that Oct 14th, so we could get confirmation for a late-october release or sometime in early November. mid-nov and december are devoted to the battleforce boxes and such.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 06:05:17
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Eumerin wrote: SgtEeveell wrote:Didn't we have drop pods for old Epic?
ISTR that they were basically just single piece plastic blobs, like the Rhinos.
There were drop pods in v1. They were metal, and there were separate closed and opened pods, iirc - sold in the same blister.
The design was quite different too; instead of five sets of two standing harnesses and a tall, narrow profile it was wide and squat with ten individual doors that opened on what looked like individual seats for each occupant. It would be kind of cool to see that as an alternative design again but everyone seems to have forgotten it ever existed.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 06:16:39
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumor
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Regarding the drop pods :
Shouldn’t they be Dreadclaws at this point in time? I seem to remember some lore that these more current style drop pods were adopted after the Heresy because of corruption in the machine spirits of the Dreadclaws or some such.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 07:39:09
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumor
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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nels1031 wrote:Regarding the drop pods :
Shouldn’t they be Dreadclaws at this point in time? I seem to remember some lore that these more current style drop pods were adopted after the Heresy because of corruption in the machine spirits of the Dreadclaws or some such.
Regular pods were already in use (and exist in the 30k rules), the Dreadclaw has always been a separate unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 08:02:00
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Drop pods are something that a lot of Epic players (in Europe at least) might need to buy the official miniatures for. There isn't a great availability of proxy minis (which is funny considering how simple the concept and design should be). Vanguard no longer seem to sell their's and the Onslaught minis ones are expensive (and they don't have a European distributor any more making postage expensive). There is an 'orbital Knights' STL for 3D printing, but I haven't seen anyone selling prints of them so only an option for people with 3D printers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 08:13:18
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Foxy Wildborne
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I'm sure if the game picks up the commercial printers will have a full Epic inventory in no time.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 09:15:44
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, previous drop pods were more like a terrain feature that appears when you deep strike with your drop pod formation, since they don't move once deployed. They were treated more or less as such in previous edition of Epic. I'm not surprised people weren't that keen to buy them before, it doesn't have the same level of interactions in game than, let's say, rhinos.
4 in a box here may be more than enough in terms of rules, we will see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 09:19:44
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumor
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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ThePaintingOwl wrote: nels1031 wrote:Regarding the drop pods :
Shouldn’t they be Dreadclaws at this point in time? I seem to remember some lore that these more current style drop pods were adopted after the Heresy because of corruption in the machine spirits of the Dreadclaws or some such.
Regular pods were already in use (and exist in the 30k rules), the Dreadclaw has always been a separate unit.
Normal drop pods were viewed as disposable (and needed specialist units to recover them), whereas Dreadclaws are almost aircraft in their own right. Dreadclaws are also prone to possession.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 09:25:11
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Mr Morden wrote:Look foward to people converting 40k drop pods for Titans and Knights 
Or using these Epic ones for 40k. Put 'em on big bases with long stands and say they're just very high up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 09:52:14
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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SgtEeveell wrote:Didn't we have drop pods for old Epic?
ISTR that they were basically just single piece plastic blobs, like the Rhinos.
The original ones were one piece, open and closed (maybe two with the turret when open, I don't remember):
The ones in 3rd were six pieces, IIRC: the base and 5 identical prongs:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 10:09:43
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Loved this little conversion of the original, from the https://miniwars.co.uk/epic-40k/miniatures/ website (which has a full list of classic epic miniatures and available proxies if anyone doesn't know of it, it's a super useful resource)
Shakalooloo wrote: Mr Morden wrote:Look foward to people converting 40k drop pods for Titans and Knights 
Or using these Epic ones for 40k. Put 'em on big bases with long stands and say they're just very high up.
Excellent idea lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 10:17:53
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Shakalooloo wrote: Mr Morden wrote:Look foward to people converting 40k drop pods for Titans and Knights 
Or using these Epic ones for 40k. Put 'em on big bases with long stands and say they're just very high up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/29 12:48:49
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Wow, I’m realizing I’ve had such a blind spot for Epic over the years. I swear I’ve never seen the beach ball drop pod before. I ran to get my old red/blue catalogues and lo and behold, there they are.
Also, thanks Pacific for the link. These are charming and I’ll have to take a serious look at 3rd party minis after the initial LI release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 01:37:09
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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Pacific wrote:Loved this little conversion of the original, from the https://miniwars.co.uk/epic-40k/miniatures/ website (which has a full list of classic epic miniatures and available proxies if anyone doesn't know of it, it's a super useful resource)
Shakalooloo wrote: Mr Morden wrote:Look foward to people converting 40k drop pods for Titans and Knights 
Or using these Epic ones for 40k. Put 'em on big bases with long stands and say they're just very high up.
Excellent idea lol
Looks like a tiny battletech dropship.
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 02:43:14
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Been Around the Block
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Albertorius wrote:
The ones in 3rd were six pieces, IIRC: the base and 5 identical prongs:

These drop pods are from 4th edition (Epic Armageddon); drop pod models were not included in the model range of 3rd edition (Epic 40,000). This is assuming that the models pictured are the official GW models and not forumware proxies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 05:11:29
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Very cool drop pods- I'm impressed at the details.
I'm confused on the 4-per-box. That doesn't seem like a lot compared to how much infantry there is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 05:20:48
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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They look okay, but I don't really want to be installing 5 movable doors on drop pods of this scale (and I say that as someone who has magnetised all my tiny tank turrets to better make the pew pew noises with them...)
In practice I imagine they're just going to be open the moment they land anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 06:48:55
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
Oakland, CA
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I would imagine they would be "open" as soon as placed on the table, rules wise.
Closed would seem to be a hobby choice for variety.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 08:20:21
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Posts with Authority
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I've always wondered how come GW never made rules for the drop pods where the doors happen to jam during the drop (lets say the doors open on a 2+), and you end up having to be a sitting duck on the table for a turn.. Would have actually made some sense to have closed pods on the table as well. Riskier drop pod deployment would feel a lot more fluffy for me, and would add interesting tradeoffs, you could play into this by making pods super cheap in points (but risking your models a bit as a trade off)
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 08:50:54
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Foxy Wildborne
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Moopy wrote:Very cool drop pods- I'm impressed at the details.
I'm confused on the 4-per-box. That doesn't seem like a lot compared to how much infantry there is.
I think you may simply be grossly overestimating how much infantry you get
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 09:43:22
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Not as Good as a Minion
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you get 10 models per DP, means 2 bases in LI so 8 bases per DP box
looking at the shown frames, and how the other models look like, 2 DP per frame and 2 frames per box while 8 bases infantry are also 2 frames so this would fit
(larger models are 1 per frame and also said to be 2 per box, so a general 2 frames per box and all boxes about the same price is what I expect here)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 11:22:14
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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8 bases looks like a core Legion demi-company. TBH I wonder about the need of having a high number of drop pods in a regular army. Sure, it's nice to capture an objective with OS infantry deep in the battlefield, but it's like deep strike terminators : it's nice to have as an asset, but it's too "one-trick pony" to be really focusing its whole army with multiple detachments.
Feels like I can get away with just 2 boxes of 4 drop pods at best. If they're the price of half a box of 10 rhinos, I won't mind (I feel like I will have a "leftover" of rhinos if I take that box, IMHO).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/09/30 11:49:36
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Otiose in a Niche
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Alpharius wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:Those are neat, but, at the risk of sounding like a broken record... a box of 4 drop pods makes it clear as day that this game won't be anywhere close to financially accessible
Ugh - agreed - this does not bode well...
I forget the sound, but it's the one a 3d printer makes.
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