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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On box contents? The other important thing for me has also been met. Specifically, that One Box = One Unit.

Yes there is incentive to buy multiples for larger units. But it’s thankfully not a requirement.

This is a nice change from say IG artillery being two guns in a blister, deployed in multiples of three

By the time I got into 2nd Ed Epic it was three to a blister. Barring the odd dusty peg warmer!

Have we covered how the Kratos were included in the photo in error and are not part of the core set?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
By the time I got into 2nd Ed Epic it was three to a blister. Barring the odd dusty peg warmer!

bought virtually all of mine in 1st edition, 2nd was mostly just the boxed set for me.

Curious though, reading the articles the box has two terminator stands, though the detachment is four.

have we seen anywhere if you can attach one or two to another infantry formation (same with the other stands, doesn't look like there is enough of any to run alone so presumably you have the two full tactical squads (four bases) and will have some options to attach support units?

Erm..I think so? Maybe?

 Souleater wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Souleater wrote:
Has anyone worked out a rough cost for a standard army?

I will try from the WH+ bat rep they’re doing this week.

Someone on B&C did, comes out about the same as a 40k force for the 3k point "normal" game size, I think I saw 350-450$ for a full army with some support options.

Yeah they worked it out as £450 for a 3k army. Note they were working in GBP.

Updated, thank you.

leopard wrote:

Curious though, reading the articles the box has two terminator stands, though the detachment is four.

have we seen anywhere if you can attach one or two to another infantry formation (same with the other stands, doesn't look like there is enough of any to run alone so presumably you have the two full tactical squads (four bases) and will have some options to attach support units?

Yes, the support units like assault marines, terminators, dreads, etc can be attached to a tactical detachment (and presumably other types) two bases at a time.

Or you can double up with four bases in a detachment of their own.

Anyone know or are we all in the dark?

For a reasonable force, if I buy 1 Core box, for a balanced force, should I be buying another infantry box too?

Is the Infantry (marine for example) box the same contents as the marines that come in the Core duplicated?

 xttz wrote:

leopard wrote:

Curious though, reading the articles the box has two terminator stands, though the detachment is four.

have we seen anywhere if you can attach one or two to another infantry formation (same with the other stands, doesn't look like there is enough of any to run alone so presumably you have the two full tactical squads (four bases) and will have some options to attach support units?

Yes, the support units like assault marines, terminators, dreads, etc can be attached to a tactical detachment (and presumably other types) two bases at a time.

Or you can double up with four bases in a detachment of their own.

that makes sense.

thinking getting a box here and maybe a second, but want to read and play it first

New painting video with a few closer looks at the models and sprues

 Matrindur wrote:
New painting video with a few closer looks at the models and sprues

Well, that all looks absolutely terrible, but it may just be the closeups. Probably shouldn't zoom into this stuff until it's as big as 40k versions.

Looks like the prime was too thick and the surface aren't smooth enough. And those moldline geezus

 Matrindur wrote:
New painting video with a few closer looks at the models and sprues

thats.... hidious

mould lines everywhere, which is not a good look for brand new models, marks where some rough file work has tried to remove a few and then not been cleaned up, paint overlaps left without a clean up stage, blotchy (because unthinned) contrast, base coats that are not covering right.

I mean I'm no expert but my epic stuff back in my teen years was neater than this, probably took longer, but I doubt that much longer. And the printed stuff I've been fiddling with is better, at least if I get black or metals over a base colour I go back and correct it.

yes it being 8mm will hide many sins from a distance but ummm.. this is hardly a showcase of amazing painting done quickly.

Wonder what Duncan and Peachy will make of it when they inevitably do some of these?


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Chopstick wrote:
Looks like the prime was too thick and the surface aren't smooth enough. And those moldline geezus

too thick and too uneven

I mean, I'm pretty used to the stuff I take out of the printed, and these are horrible in comparison... and that's even the "rough" 50 microns quality

EDIT: ..wow, yeah, I see what you mean about the priming and the assembling/moulds. Good god, who thought it would be a good idea to show this... prime it black if you're gonna do such a rush job at least, it will look better.

mold lines and gaps on the tanks look terrible

so the advantage of multi-part small kits to get better details is lost by adding gaps to the models that stand out unless you paint in dark colours

Well, you probably could assemble them better too xD

if the very professional model builder and painter, who get paid to do that, for a promotional video, cannot do it not sure of we can do it

and not like GW had such kits in the past were you needed Greenstuff to fill the gaps.
yet with larger models you actually can use GS, doubt that this is an option with those

Just for an S&G bit of giggle and a walk down memory lane, does anybody have links/info on what the old 1st Edition Space Marine set cost (in USD?). I can't even remember what I paid for it (I'm thinking $50, but that was like 30 years ago), but remember feeling that it was both expensive and a great value at the same time.

I don't think the examples are too bad, and at least it does look fairly quick. I think as Lord Blackfang says blowing the shots up to screen-filling high definition will not help (I always have my stuff photographed at a fair distance, and it doesn't matter as people don't microscopes for eyes )

Although I have a problem with things like tassels and belts being visible on Epic miniatures, it is too much detail for the scale! The whole thing with these (and the big benefit of the original game) was that you could belt out an infantry company in an hour, not ruin your eyes painting tiny 28mm-level-detail miniatures!

 Stormonu wrote:
Just for an S&G bit of giggle and a walk down memory lane, does anybody have links/info on what the old 1st Edition Space Marine set cost (in USD?). I can't even remember what I paid for it (I'm thinking $50, but that was like 30 years ago), but remember feeling that it was both expensive and a great value at the same time.

No idea about Space Marine 1st edition, but Epic 40k was 60 euros on release, which in today's money would be 109.05 euros

155 euros:


109 euros:


(yes, titans and more detail, I know. Still ).

 kodos wrote:
if the very professional model builder and painter, who get paid to do that, for a promotional video, cannot do it not sure of we can do it

and not like GW had such kits in the past were you needed Greenstuff to fill the gaps.
yet with larger models you actually can use GS, doubt that this is an option with those

Look the painting was straight bad, so I can't imagine the assembling was any better. It feel like they shoved a pile of plastic under the team's nose 20 minutes ago and told em to get to work.

 Stormonu wrote:
Just for an S&G bit of giggle and a walk down memory lane, does anybody have links/info on what the old 1st Edition Space Marine set cost (in USD?). I can't even remember what I paid for it (I'm thinking $50, but that was like 30 years ago), but remember feeling that it was both expensive and a great value at the same time.

dunno in USD but I remember paying £20 for the 1st edition boxed set (seemed to be a standard boxed set price, got Mighty Empires for the same at the same time)

stratigo wrote:

 kodos wrote:
if the very professional model builder and painter, who get paid to do that, for a promotional video, cannot do it not sure of we can do it

and not like GW had such kits in the past were you needed Greenstuff to fill the gaps.
yet with larger models you actually can use GS, doubt that this is an option with those

Look the painting was straight bad, so I can't imagine the assembling was any better. It feel like they shoved a pile of plastic under the team's nose 20 minutes ago and told em to get to work.

you mean people will buy it anyway so why should the stuff waste a full hour on it

 Albertorius wrote:
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That is still one of the best sets/games GW has ever put out. Its just such a good set that feels 'complete' as a starter set and isn't a bunch of random models thrown together.

Its still my favourite era of 40k as well. Before the super serious grimdark era completely took over.

I can't wait to get some of these new models done to use with 3rd!

Ooo. Didn't expect the bases. May have to snaffle some of the 80mm for HH dreads, dress them up with a few of the bits from the Void War bases..

 Albertorius wrote:

Eumerin wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


IIRC, there were 4 Baneblades to a box, so I would guess it's two per sprue.

Two per box, according to the announcement. But I do remember seeing an earlier preview that suggested it would be four.

Your two per sprue comment is almost certainly accurate.

I think two per box was the Stormhammer.

The new article says two Baneblades per box.

I remember it being 4 baneblades per box, 2 stormhammers per. I guess they must have edited that?

Yeah, it was assumed 1 BB per sprue and 2 per Box as there were 3 on the picture and than written by WarCom to be 4 per Box
Now it is 2 per Box

Someday GW will figure out what they're trying to sell!

chaos0xomega wrote:
I remember it being 4 baneblades per box, 2 stormhammers per. I guess they must have edited that?

The four baneblades thing is from when the Kratos / Baneblade / Rhino were all revealed in the same article. It said that we get ten rhinos per box.

Someone asked on Twitter how many Kratos & Baneblades were in a box, and got a reply saying four. Seems they only answered half the question!