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The real difference in 2d6 is that the impact of a modifier varies depending on difference between CAF stats.

If anyone is still on the fence about what they want next, I've made something that might help. Points values can vary slightly depending on how units are added to an army. For example you can take two detachments of 2 Kratos each for 300pts, or one detachment of 4 Kratos for 260pts.

Units in italics aren't released yet so the price isn't official, but some of these were previously available for AI and AT.

Just noticed an interesting point:

The Imperial Fists legion special rules gives infantry detachments with specific weapons the accurate trait if they get the first fire order. Those weapons are the bolters, combi bolters, bolt pistols and missile launchers which are all on the current infantry models. But there are also plasma cannons, lascannons and autocannons listed. With the lascannon they could mean the Tarantula lascannon battery depending on if it has to be the same name or just include the word lascannon which isn't 100% clear in the rule but even then there are no plasma cannons or autocannons on any infantry. (Dreadnoughts are walkers) 

Looking at HH the only units with plasma cannons or autocannons other than dreadnougts are the Jetbikes and Land speeders which both shouldn't be infantry and the heavy support squad. So that basically confirms more support squads in addition to the plasma gun and missile launcher variants in the future.
There are also the Reaper Autocannon and Plasma Blaster as special weapons on the Terminators but I think those are less likely than more support squads

Nice detective work, not that I didn't already assume that the entire unit range will get models.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice detective work, not that I didn't already assume that the entire unit range will get models.

I was also always pretty sure every HH unit would get models but different weapon options for already existing models is another step further so nice to get confirmation for that too

Could be just future proofing for a VERY long view.

Emperor been officially referenced in rules as a gaming piece for years now. Still no sign of him.

Wouldn't draw too long conclusions from it. Even if there comes something could be in next decade.

What was the Emperor's own marine chapter called, or does he just hang out with the Custodes during the 30K era?

SamusDrake wrote:
What was the Emperor's own marine chapter called, or does he just hang out with the Custodes during the 30K era?

During the Horus Heresy, he's sat on the throne mostly. But he rocked about with the Custodes and whichever legion he wanted to mooch places with. He "took" Mars with the 1st legion for example.

Wasn't it the Pointy Sticks?

Dudeface wrote:


During the Horus Heresy, he's sat on the throne mostly. But he rocked about with the Custodes and whichever legion he wanted to mooch places with. He "took" Mars with the 1st legion for example.

Oh, I see. I knew he had that fight with Horus onboard The Vengeful Spirit, but not much before that.

Maybe the big man will show up in a boarding operations supplement?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Wasn't it the Pointy Sticks?

Nice deep cut there.

This is tagged "Legions Imperialis" on Wayland Games I dunno

https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/dystopian-industrial-set-wsa610001

 lord_blackfang wrote:
This is tagged "Legions Imperialis" on Wayland Games I dunno

https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/dystopian-industrial-set-wsa610001

Is this a plastic or resin kit?

 Malika2 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
This is tagged "Legions Imperialis" on Wayland Games I dunno

https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/dystopian-industrial-set-wsa610001

Is this a plastic or resin kit?

Here's the assembly instructions from mfr's website.
Looks pretty HIPSy to me - pretty sure you couldn't cast either of those sprues in resin reasonably.

I mean, that's a sprue... but it also says "RINSE SPRUES IN WARM SOAPY WATER TO REMOVE ANY MOULD RELEASE BEFORE ASSEMBLY" so...

 Albertorius wrote:
I mean, that's a sprue... but it also says "RINSE SPRUES IN WARM SOAPY WATER TO REMOVE ANY MOULD RELEASE BEFORE ASSEMBLY" so...

For some reason all of Warcradle's HIPS kits say that. I've never done it.

 Albertorius wrote:
I mean, that's a sprue... but it also says "RINSE SPRUES IN WARM SOAPY WATER TO REMOVE ANY MOULD RELEASE BEFORE ASSEMBLY" so...

I had plenty of HIPS plastic kits with instructions that say exactly that, and a few that didn't were it was required anyway

 Malika2 wrote:

Is this a plastic or resin kit?

If you click on "Product Specifications" it'll provide all the details on for a product. In this case, yes it is indeed plastic.

Has Da Grotmas Gitz Holiday miniature got a better LI scale infantry Marine on it that is better than any of the Marine infantry available for the actual game?

The Warmaster-scale Stormcast is very interesting!

SamusDrake wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

Is this a plastic or resin kit?

If you click on "Product Specifications" it'll provide all the details on for a product. In this case, yes it is indeed plastic.

This si the website.

https://scenics.warcradle.com/warcradle-scenics/dystopian-industrial-set Wonder if its a troublemaker set?

Why would it be a Troublemaker set?

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Has Da Grotmas Gitz Holiday miniature got a better LI scale infantry Marine on it that is better than any of the Marine infantry available for the actual game?

Yeah, because it's primaris. Aka model with actual 'strong, adult human' proportions, as opposed to gak, garbage looking '5 year old child' head to height ratio squatmarines have (and even that is a big improvement, before the DW/CSM/HH/Heroes refresh squattus had proportions of a chimpanzee, at no age humans have spine that short, arms so thin and long, and hips so broken/wide with piddly bowlegged legs plus thighs thinner than forearms).

The_Real_Chris wrote:


This si the website.

https://scenics.warcradle.com/warcradle-scenics/dystopian-industrial-set Wonder if its a troublemaker set?

I was referring to the Wayland site, but thats cool beans.

Australia preorders have gone live.... kinda?

On the GW website they say 10am AWST (West Australia time) which is 1pm Melbourne/Sydney/Brisbane time (I don't know why they used AWST instead of AEST, as the vast majority of the population is on the East coast rather than the West coast). Normally GW preorders are 12pm... and it seems TheCombatCompany went live just now at 12pm as usual, but other sites (including GW) haven't gone live yet.

So TCC jumped the gun I guess. Annnnnnnd it's gone.

Pretty much instantly went out of stock, but I guess it's hard to judge as they were the first to go live, anyone watching multiple sites would have snapped it up from TCC.

The tanks actually went out of stock before the starter set did.

EDIT: Looks like TCC realised their error and have now taken down the preorders! Interesting...





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Gone live on all the other sites too now, most independents are sold out of the starter set. It seems like the Baneblades and Kratos were extremely low stock, GapGames gives stock levels and when I checked soon after they went live, they had 45 starter sets but only 1 each of the Kratos and Baneblades.

The official GW site still has stock (in spite of not having a queue in place). I think the high price here pushes people to independents even more than other countries, or maybe GW just hordes more of the stock for themselves in Oz compared to other places.

It released at $335, which is higher than I was expecting based on similarly priced kits released recently.

Cards are direct only and $52.50 which feels a bit crazily expensive. Do the cards only have rules for what's just been released? If they have rules of the future releases maybe that's not too bad.

Jesus wept look at those prices...

$80 for 4 itty bitty tanks that fit in the palm of your hand?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Jesus wept look at those prices...

$80 for 4 itty bitty tanks that fit in the palm of your hand?

Yes the prices are horrendous here in Aus for this game.

Having said that most stores online sold out extremely fast. Even GW sold out of quite a few kits.

I missed out on a Thunderhawk when it launched in Aeronautica Imperialis and now I've missed out again in Legion Imperialis.
All I can hope is that LI will restock it at some point.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Jesus wept look at those prices...

$80 for 4 itty bitty tanks that fit in the palm of your hand?

The prices on this release actually aren’t far off US pricing. $50USD is $75AUD.

They screw us slightly more on the starter set though, everywhere else the starter set is 4x the individual box prices, here they decided to throw on an extra $15.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Jesus wept look at those prices...

$80 for 4 itty bitty tanks that fit in the palm of your hand?

Yeah but those are OzBux or whatever you people use down there. Something-something minimum wage, cost of living, conversion, shipping, something.

Do things sell out on the morning if release like they do in the rest of the world?

Are the starters, cards, terrain and bases all going to be gone today/early next week?