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its a symbol, another one, of their stock control and web site systems being something even a grot would think of as half baked

drbored wrote:


The previous big box set of civitas terrain read that as well, but then came back in stock.

The system is set to auto-flag things as 'sold out online' if stock levels get too low, then an operator has to manually uncheck the flag to switch it to 'temporarily out of stock' or restocks will unflag the product automatically.

It's no longer a symbol of things being replaced.

Thanks for the explanation!

Aaaannddd... They're back!

The next Sunday preview ins online... and still no further Releases for LI...

RazorEdge wrote:
The next Sunday preview ins online... and still no further Releases for LI...

We know there is a preorder coming this month with the "The Great Slaughter" book (and very likely many other things)
They also said "later this month instead of something like "very soon" in last Thursdays article so I didn't expect it next Saturday and also wouldn't expect it the following Saturday. The 27th, the last Saturday in January, is the most likely candidate.
So no reason to expect anything until then, especially since there are many other things they still need to release like the Dark Angels army set and AoS Dawnbringers 4 with FEC (one of those will likely be on the 20th with the other one being after LI on the 3rd)

Expecting last Saturday in January here too for the next book, and hopefully a few more boxes for the stuff not yet available out of the starter

leopard wrote:
Expecting last Saturday in January here too for the next book, and hopefully a few more boxes for the stuff not yet available out of the starter

I expect anything still missing from the first wave so the two support boxes the solo tank releases and the missing Titan/Knight/Aircraft kits.
The book itself will likely have rules for most if not all the currently revealed stuff but I only expect maybe 1-2 kits of those things now with the rest trickling in slowly over the next months in the same way we already had rules for the support box stuff even thought the kits itself took 2 months longer

 Matrindur wrote:

leopard wrote:
Expecting last Saturday in January here too for the next book, and hopefully a few more boxes for the stuff not yet available out of the starter

I expect anything still missing from the first wave so the two support boxes the solo tank releases and the missing Titan/Knight/Aircraft kits.
The book itself will likely have rules for most if not all the currently revealed stuff but I only expect maybe 1-2 kits of those things now with the rest trickling in slowly over the next months in the same way we already had rules for the support box stuff even thought the kits itself took 2 months longer

totally agree, we are about to get another book with rules for stuff we won't get our paws on for a while except via alternative means

Do you think theres anything further in the Great Slaughter book, unit wise, that hasn't already been previewed? Wondering if things like the Fellblade, Glaive, Falchion, Typhon, Cerberus, Land Raider Proteus, etc. etc. will be coming with The Great Slaughter or if we will be waiting longer.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Do you think theres anything further in the Great Slaughter book, unit wise, that hasn't already been previewed? Wondering if things like the Fellblade, Glaive, Falchion, Typhon, Cerberus, Land Raider Proteus, etc. etc. will be coming with The Great Slaughter or if we will be waiting longer.

Proteus Land Raiders have been previewed already

There might be 1-2 more kits but only if they actually show them on the Heresy Thursdays until the preorder (if its on the 27th there are 3 more Thursdays)
There will be nothing in the book they haven't revealed before.
Currently SM have 10 units coming.
Meanwhile SA have 6 (if Medusa/Basilisk are two different units instead of just weapon options) units but I think the Malcador Infernus and Valdor Tank Hunters might not be in the book as everything else was revealed nearly weekly while there was a 1 month pause between those two and the Dracosan. So the Dracosan might be the cutoff point for stuff in the book.
But if the two Malcador versions are in I could see another SA kit to even it out a bit.

There're still Dominus knight. The last pattern yet to be made.

Chopstick wrote:
There're still Dominus knight. The last pattern yet to be made.

Did they already exist in 30k? The last time I saw the discussion about Dominus pattern for Titanicus somebody said they weren't around back then.
(Its also not in the HH rules as far as I can see)

 Matrindur wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
There're still Dominus knight. The last pattern yet to be made.

Did they already exist in 30k? The last time I saw the discussion about Dominus pattern for Titanicus somebody said they weren't around back then.
(Its also not in the HH rules as far as I can see)

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/14/14th-jan-the-horus-heresy-new-imperial-knights-rulesgw-homepage-post-1/

After all, the Imperial Knights pre-date the Imperium and the tragic events of the Horus Heresy, so these mighty war machines would certainly have marched to war along with their fellow Knights.

Since it's not in HH I imagine that might have been slightly (re)retconned.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Since it's not in HH I imagine that might have been slightly (re)retconned.

along with basically everything else

I'm guessing that the Dominus will be introduced to Legions, Titanicus and Horus Heresy further down the line...

Titanicus; the Porphyrions are yet to return to sale, and their terminal pack is still sold out. Given that the Acastus is no longer allowed in lances( unless in the Senechal's banner ), then the Dominus is the only other firepower knight to replace it. I can see a new terminal pack that includes both Acastus and Dominus knights, as they're both big on armour and firepower.

Legions; probably introduced in White Dwarf, then a supplement later on.

Horus Heresy; Probably waiting until they can do a repackaged 30K kit, and maybe the focus of a campaign supplement.

Yah there's a lot still to push out and I'm quite curious to see how GW does it.

LI is a specialist game, and their releases might piggyback alongside other releases, big or small. Much like how this coming Saturday is a mix of AoS, Bloodbowl, and the title object: End and the Death 3.

I wouldn't be disappointed if we got a drip-feed of things, as long as it is some sort of *feed* so we can get the support boxes, other transports, and titans and other stuff that haven't come back in stock or been put on sale yet.

WRT the Dominus, keep in mind that there still seems to be a bit of a GW/FW divide with regard to designs that are included in specialist games. With Aeronautica Imperialis for example, they opted to primarily include FW flyers at the expense of GW designs. The Tau didn't get sunshark bombers or razor sharks or whatever, for example, space marines didn't get most (any?) of the GW plastic flyers (of which there are quite a few), eldar only got hemlock wraithfighters and crimson hunters later on down the line, and only in resin, etc. The Dominus has been curiously missing from AT for years now, etc.

chaos0xomega wrote:
WRT the Dominus, keep in mind that there still seems to be a bit of a GW/FW divide with regard to designs that are included in specialist games. With Aeronautica Imperialis for example, they opted to primarily include FW flyers at the expense of GW designs. The Tau didn't get sunshark bombers or razor sharks or whatever, for example, space marines didn't get most (any?) of the GW plastic flyers (of which there are quite a few), eldar only got hemlock wraithfighters and crimson hunters later on down the line, and only in resin, etc. The Dominus has been curiously missing from AT for years now, etc.

Questoris is fully included in HH in both scales and Dominus is excluded, my money is on this being a conscious choice, for whatever reason, and will persist. If they were going to add the Dominus in the lifespan of this edition it would have been in the HH Mechanicum book, as they did with the Questoris, complete with a new HH branded box cover and HH transfer sheet.

The Questoris was originally a FW resin model before being plasticized though (or at least thats what I remember).

chaos0xomega wrote:
The Questoris was originally a FW resin model before being plasticized though (or at least thats what I remember).

Questors came 1st in plastic. Whopping 1 box and codex.

Weird, I have such a distinct memory of it being a forgeworld resin kit before GW released it in plastic.

To my memory, previous to HH 2.0, only the Trygon and Valkyrie were FW to GW ports? And now the Tauros Venator?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
To my memory, previous to HH 2.0, only the Trygon and Valkyrie were FW to GW ports? And now the Tauros Venator?

Manticore, Hydra, Baneblade and most variants (a few were created for the plastic kit), Death Korps, iirc a couple of the Leman Russ variants were originally resin variants (exterminator and Vanquisher iirc), iirc some variant of the dakkajet? I believe the drop pod was a resin kit first, iirc a couple of now defunct space marine kits may have started out as FW kits, winged hive tyrants iirc started out forgeworld, technically the winged tyranid prime (via the FW winged warriors), Tau Prianhas were forgeworld first... theres probably a couple other things that I missed.

The exterminator was originally a metal/plastic hybrid from the deep time.

Ye. 3e you could even have space wolves with it.

Some quick thoughts for the first half of the year...

Just pondering if The Great Slaughter will be accompanied with the Titan bundle and Direwolves, and then a Knight focused supplement would be released afterwards with the Knight bundle and reintroducing the Porphyrion kit. We're also missing the repackaged Warbringer and Warmaster kits...

The only thing is that AT is still pending at least one supplement for renegade banners, so maybe it will be all-in with The Great Slaughter, and an AT book a little later. With the Direwolves being released as a plastic kit of two, we might see new maniples for them...

It's all up in the air. The LI situation has been pretty unprecedented and it's really tough to say how GW is going to try to push all this out.

We don't know how quickly GW wants to get it all out there, how much has already been produced that's waiting to be distributed, what other release schedule items are competing for those slots, etc etc. It's already wild that we're getting an expansion this month, when I'd expect such a thing 3 months from now. There's also so much that's still out of stock that people are waiting for to actually /start/ their LI forces, let alone add to them.

So, we'll see how it all goes. IMO, Great Slaughter can't come fast enough.

Seeing legionswa supposed to be out in august supplement in january isn't that odd.

drbored wrote:
It's all up in the air. The LI situation has been pretty unprecedented and it's really tough to say how GW is going to try to push all this out.

We don't know how quickly GW wants to get it all out there, how much has already been produced that's waiting to be distributed, what other release schedule items are competing for those slots, etc etc. It's already wild that we're getting an expansion this month, when I'd expect such a thing 3 months from now. There's also so much that's still out of stock that people are waiting for to actually /start/ their LI forces, let alone add to them.

So, we'll see how it all goes. IMO, Great Slaughter can't come fast enough.

I know 2 people still waiting on core sets from original pre orders from 3rd party retailers (well known ones).

tneva82 wrote:
Seeing legionswa supposed to be out in august supplement in january isn't that odd.

this is pretty much my thinking, the stuff planned for the second half of 2023 is in catchup mode but it appears to be that the 2024 plans are going ahead as scheduled