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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 11:52:10
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 11:56:22
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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SamusDrake wrote:I like the blue Warhound with the ye'olde armour. I wonder if that's a new FW upgrade kit on the way.
I thought it was the Battle Bling Oldeus kit, but the spikes are wrong. EDIT - Ninja'd ;-)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2025/08/22 11:56:51
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 11:58:47
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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No! We're holding Warcom to this!
New Warhound incoming!!!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 12:00:18
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Considering I just bought BB upgrade kits it would stand to reason that GW would then turn around and make them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 12:05:00
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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Given: Valrak = "Hunchback"
We'll see what the Hunchback has to say about this!
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 14:36:50
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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HidaO-Win wrote:Both the Warhound Conversion Beam Dissolutor and the Graviton Destructor dropped off warhammer.com in May 2025, new plastic kit maybe?
I think existing kits can build every other weapon.
All bar the Reaver graviton cannon has gone sold out. With any luck, we'll see a new kit Automatically Appended Next Post: SamusDrake wrote:Given: Valrak = "Hunchback"
We'll see what the Hunchback has to say about this!
The hunchback says many things
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2025/08/22 14:38:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 16:26:48
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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I hope the warlord gets a third weapon sprue as well if the warhound and reaver are getting new ones again. Lot of warlord options missing in plastic. And poor warbringer is missing its second main gun and 2 arms still. Plus the lucius warlord and mark delta warbringer heads
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/22 18:09:01
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Honestly, I’d love some alternative heads, armour plating and the like alongside the weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 02:09:57
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Been Around the Block
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I would love to see a Banelord upgrade kit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 04:04:18
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I might have missed the news but was I the only one under the assumption that the new book would also include the core rules to be a all in one book? But that doesn't seem to be the case since it says a copy of the rulebook is also necessary for play
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 05:19:28
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Not as Good as a Minion
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some, like me, hoped that it will replace the core rules, but it was never really mentioned before
at least for me this is kind of a deal breaker as updated rules at least as download to go with the new book would be good
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 09:07:32
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's not possible to order the cards from the French webstore...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 09:10:46
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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And one of everything. But not the cards, not fussed for those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 09:49:50
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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GW were pretty clear the new book is basically a combined version of the previously released expansion/campaign books with just the game content.
It compliments rather than replaces the core rule book so think of it like a 1.5 addon book.
If you've already got the previous expansion books its probably not worth picking up unless you just want one book to carry for that expansion content. It's ideally placed for people newer jumping on board or those who want one single book to carry instead of several.
If this were a full new rulebook compendium GW would likely have bundled it with a bigger more showier launch. Though to be fair the Space Marines are getting a very chunky update alongside this book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 09:56:46
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Matrindur wrote:I might have missed the news but was I the only one under the assumption that the new book would also include the core rules to be a all in one book? But that doesn't seem to be the case since it says a copy of the rulebook is also necessary for play
When this was announced they said " With this and the core rules to the game, you have everything you need to build Legions Imperialis armies, and use them on the tabletop". I'm taking that to mean we'll eventually see a new revised core rules book similar to the softback A5 book they put out a couple of years into Adeptus Titanicus. There's no point in leaving the current rulebook in print when around half of it is superseded by this Liber and recent FAQs. The rules & points changes affect a majority of detachments in the game, and I don't see how GW can make a viable errata for the old rulebook & cards as it would need to be huge.
For anyone curious Goonhammer have a pretty thorough review of the rules changes across multiple articles linked here:
https://www.goonhammer.com/goonhammer-reviews-liber-strategia-for-legions-imperialis/
Key points:
Lots of small tweaks to marine units, like Armoured on terminators or a 5++ on contemptors
Big outliers like Ogryns and missile marines have been reigned in
Solar armour gets more durable, with 2+ save on more tanks and 3 wounds on super-heavies
Knights get improved armour & ion saves plus significant points cuts
Titans get point cuts and most gain an extra wound. Warlords gain 2 voids while warmasters are the only ones to get a needed points hike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 10:09:07
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Wrexham, North Wales
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Ogryns got reigned in by a points increase and 'Bulky', but the 2 wounds per stand will come in handy.
Plasma blastguns getting an extra shot is nice. Might field some stormblades now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 10:18:13
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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The only change that I think is a little painful is the choice to take the once decorative top-gun and make it an upgrade. Nice to get them represented but complicates builds a bit.
Overall feels like points have come down in general and survivability went up. Also nice to see the Stormhammer lose that baffling "front arc" on its turreted gun.
The increased survivability on a lot of things kind of hints that we are looking at them growing the game to larger armies without ending up with everything being killed off in two turns.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2025/08/23 10:19:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 10:32:27
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Reverent Tech-Adept
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Overread wrote:GW were pretty clear the new book is basically a combined version of the previously released expansion/campaign books with just the game content.
It compliments rather than replaces the core rule book so think of it like a 1.5 addon book.
If you've already got the previous expansion books its probably not worth picking up unless you just want one book to carry for that expansion content. It's ideally placed for people newer jumping on board or those who want one single book to carry instead of several.
If this were a full new rulebook compendium GW would likely have bundled it with a bigger more showier launch. Though to be fair the Space Marines are getting a very chunky update alongside this book.
It's definitely still worth picking up even if you have the expansions, as they've done quite a significant balance pass across almost everything. The Goonhammer reviews give a pretty thorough account of all the changes, and from that there actually looks like GW have actually done quite a good job of it. Not perfect - IMO not doing more to tweak/balance the Legion traits is a shame - but overall a lot of really good changes from points drops on Knights and smaller titans (and all the titans also get an extra wound) through to the changes to plasma and missiles and also fixing a few of the little niggles like proteus speeders actually being able to take a unit of just meltas and Auxilia tarantulas unit sizes being consistent with the models.
I have to say I was undecided on pre-ordering, but after reading the Goonhammer articles I've just put my pre-order in with my FLGS. And the changes also make me more positive about the future of LI, I was wondering how much this would just be a low-effort amalgam of the previous expansions but it isn't just that and looks like a pretty comprehensive fix for the game. In an ideal world shouldn't have been needed (this is what the launch edition of LI should have been rules/balance-wise), and I do begrudge GW for basically making us pay to beta test the game but it is what it is.
New model-wise, I think it's a shame the Vindicators weren't half and half with the laser destroyers - the same as the whirlwinds and I think I'd have also preferred both vehicles to have be six to a box with a full set of both options (same as predators) but that's just me. Going to leave model purchases for now, but definitely in for some Cerberus' in the future and probably some whirlwinds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 10:39:32
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Wrexham, North Wales
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Quite surprised the neither of the whirlwind variants got Skyfire as a form of attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 10:47:51
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Maybe the "no one ever bought it" anti-air model is going to come back for the Marines in 30K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 12:06:20
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Wrexham, North Wales
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Overread wrote:Maybe the "no one ever bought it" anti-air model is going to come back for the Marines in 30K
The Hunter?
Two detachments of missile Tarantulas and a single one of Deredos was enough to clear 3 Thunderbolts and 3 Marauders of the table, but now Marauders a 2 wounds each...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 12:08:11
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Villanous Scum
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Really solid update for me, only one questionable decision was Domitar loosing a missile shot. Otherwise everything looks fantastic. Would have liked a more thorough redo of Legion traits but can't have everything. Solid update.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 12:50:39
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Wow, quite the update. Some standouts for me: Palisades getting their own detachment is a nice little choice Alpha Legion can't inilftrate or ourflank vehicles anymore (Booo!) Leman Russ variants now vary in points stopping Vanquishers from being the autotakes Malcadors getting improved as well as points drop Warmaster up in points to 850 Knights universal points drop Outrider points drop MarkNorfolk wrote:Quite surprised the neither of the whirlwind variants got Skyfire as a form of attack. That's the Hyperios. We may see it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 13:50:40
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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AA dedicated units in general are missing - SA don't have the hydra (or 30K equivalent). I do wonder if part of that is how air works right now and if perhaps more AA might come along if air gets an adjustment to become a larger component of armies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 18:24:03
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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I’d just like to take this moment to once again nod my approval for the Whirlwinds taking design inspiration from the original Epic ones, and the 40K conversion offered in White Dwarf.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/23 21:15:20
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Wrexham, North Wales
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Amazing what you can do with a 40mm base and some plasticard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/24 02:26:44
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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It looks like the bottom of a lego.
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The secret to painting a really big army is to keep at it. You can't reach your destination if you never take any steps.
I build IG...lots and lots of IG. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/24 02:42:02
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/24 02:46:09
Subject: Re:Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Hey guys, the maker of the warhound commented...
No conversion kit, unfortunately.
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"All GW will gain is my increased contempt for their business practices." - AesSedai
"Its terrible the way that conversion kit is causing him to buy 2 GW kits... " - Mad4Minis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/24 02:47:30
Subject: Legions Imperialis news and rumors
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Fixture of Dakka
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Definitely, but now that I look again, MarkNorfolk is right. That is half of a 40mm square base. I just got a couple of them with some Chaos Spawn. Maybe I need to make a Whirlwind.
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The secret to painting a really big army is to keep at it. You can't reach your destination if you never take any steps.
I build IG...lots and lots of IG. |
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