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 JB wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 JB wrote:
It looks like the bottom of a lego.

So pinning checks?

Definitely, but now that I look again, MarkNorfolk is right. That is half of a 40mm square base. I just got a couple of them with some Chaos Spawn. Maybe I need to make a Whirlwind.

No great wisdom. I was there, 3000 years ago…..

Well, the Saturday pre-release article now mentions "* These cards will not be available in France."

Thanks for making us second class citizens, GW... Note that I wasn't asking for a translation.

I'm not from France, so I COULD not even care...

But why, that so Stupid and makes no sense!

Do you think we could become future expansions in Journal Format?

Yes, we should see the journal format going forward.

TOW, HH and MESBG are already there, and with so many games on the go the journal format is more cost effective than hardbacks.

I think we wont see journals until 2nd edition.

There's also still campaign books as a focus and the line between "journal" and "campaign book" is basically just a marketing one for the most part.

I feel like HH 1.0 must be at a kind of mid-point for GW to be releasing the compendium which I'm hoping suggests that they've a bunch more books coming before a 2.0 edition.

Perhaps a bunch more kits for SA and Mechanicum; maybe a new plastic upgrade sprue for the warhounds and other titans which have lost some resin weapon choices.

Then a new edition perhaps with a new faction launch alongside it to really boost interest.

They could easily just spend the next LI release wave on updating existing things that don't require any rules changes.
Two plastic armiger kits, more titan weapon sprues, terrain, and starter / battlegroup sets to draw in new players before Xmas.

Then pick up with new units again in 2026.

 xttz wrote:
They could easily just spend the next LI release wave on updating existing things that don't require any rules changes.
Two plastic armiger kits, more titan weapon sprues, terrain, and starter / battlegroup sets to draw in new players before Xmas.

Then pick up with new units again in 2026.

Agreed, maybe focus on Dark Mechanicum for Traitors and Talons/Custodes for Loyalists, and cover some of the missing units- macrocarids, aurox, carnodons, saturnine, fellblades, ordinatus minoris

I could see a new Infantry Set with MK2,

why them and not Mk4, or Mk3?

-New 28mm HH Kits
-Early Heresy compatible (Istvaan V Setting, analog to "Big HH")
-Wide Spread to all Legions
-Better fitting design and narrative wise for some Legions
-Usable for a Creat Crusade Expansion

SamusDrake wrote:
Yes, we should see the journal format going forward.

TOW, HH and MESBG are already there, and with so many games on the go the journal format is more cost effective than hardbacks.

Journals could be a blessing, allowing smaller releases more regularly despite the DLC feeling of it.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 xttz wrote:
They could easily just spend the next LI release wave on updating existing things that don't require any rules changes.
Two plastic armiger kits, more titan weapon sprues, terrain, and starter / battlegroup sets to draw in new players before Xmas.

Then pick up with new units again in 2026.

Agreed, maybe focus on Dark Mechanicum for Traitors and Talons/Custodes for Loyalists, and cover some of the missing units- macrocarids, aurox, carnodons, saturnine, fellblades, ordinatus minoris

Yeah, and hopefully we'll see some of the smaller corrupted dæmon engines like the Greater Brass Scorpion or Decimators and the like for Dark Mechanicum. Maybe even see the return of the Hell Blade/Talon or even the Harbinger Bomber

Was there another Campaign which Custodes involved except Prosperos and Terra?

Would say Custodes could come as Part of Prospero Themed Journals.

Custodes are perhaps the only alternative Marine forces that could come with LI in a serious way. Since their tanks, vehicles and even warriors are all armed and designed differently to standard Marines.

So GW could certainly launch them with a mechanicum sized release.

Gawd, I've been tempted to make a travel version of Burning of Prospero with just a box of Astartes Infantry. Some Custodes would be appreciated!

I think they could introduce a new boxed game that's a mix up of Saturnine and Custodes. That would be soooo sweet!

Have we had any sneaky peakys at the new unit rules?

Hoping to have a peep, and decided if perhaps I want more than one box of the shiny new toys.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Have we had any sneaky peakys at the new unit rules?

Hoping to have a peep, and decided if perhaps I want more than one box of the shiny new toys.

Perhaps!

Oooh! Nice one!

Think I’m good with a box of each for now. But I may want to double up on Whirlwind and Scorpius

Agreed, whirldwind seem pretty good for the points.They're getting released next saturday, right? Might even warrant an excursion to my LGS.. And a set of plastic tokens, obviously.. After the Whirlwinds I think I have every model which ever got rules for Epic Space Marine 1st edition/AT, and can stop collecting LI stuff further, until I can decide if I indeed want to be playing LI and not just play old Epics with the models..

As I get older, I am starting to feel that perhaps I just want to play the old 1st editions of these games.. If I want to keep playing a current game, maybe just stick to Kill Team. Us old timers dont enjoy edition churn as much as the whippersnappers..

Yup, next Saturday.

Think I will indulge in a second Whirlwind box.

Not entirely convinced I’d want a squadron larger than four for either. Their main appeal is Barrage, so no need for LoS, and they’ve a decent rate of fire at two shots regardless of flavour.

But I think I’d be interested in fielding a couple of squadrons of each or either,

 xttz wrote:

Perhaps!

Interesting that the Imperial Fists rules still talk about Plasma Cannons, Autocannons and Heavy Bolters on infantry units which still don't exists yet if I remember correctly.
This was the biggest indicator for further infantry releases back when the game released but since nothing happened until now I was thinking it was just a mistake but since they left it in that doesn't seem to be the case?

IIRC the original rule only only mentioned the plasma cannons, lascannons, and autocannons. The heavy bolter line was added for Liber Strategia, implying that they are still planning to add stuff.

That’s a nice spot all the same.

More infantry pls.

chaos0xomega wrote:
IIRC the original rule only only mentioned the plasma cannons, lascannons, and autocannons. The heavy bolter line was added for Liber Strategia, implying that they are still planning to add stuff.

This was actually supposed to be there since day one. If you check out the following page on Night Lords, the paragraph randomly begins with "heavy bolters". That was fixed in the digital version of the rulebook but anyone with a print copy can still see it.

 tauist wrote:
Agreed, whirldwind seem pretty good for the points.They're getting released next saturday, right? Might even warrant an excursion to my LGS.. And a set of plastic tokens, obviously.. After the Whirlwinds I think I have every model which ever got rules for Epic Space Marine 1st edition/AT, and can stop collecting LI stuff further, until I can decide if I indeed want to be playing LI and not just play old Epics with the models..

Despite the new book fixing and rebalacing most units, Whirldwinds seem quite powerful, and way better and more efficient than SAX Basiliks.

 xttz wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
IIRC the original rule only only mentioned the plasma cannons, lascannons, and autocannons. The heavy bolter line was added for Liber Strategia, implying that they are still planning to add stuff.

This was actually supposed to be there since day one. If you check out the following page on Night Lords, the paragraph randomly begins with "heavy bolters". That was fixed in the digital version of the rulebook but anyone with a print copy can still see it.

My latest Box with Rulebook had this fixed. But yes, the first Runs had that Error.