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Stealth Suits haven't aged well either. I'd lean towards them getting a KT before Vespids.

Possibly even a mixed KT, with a rework of the XV15 and the XV25 being the "gunner" or heavy equivalent.

 Souleater wrote:
Could Wracks be a misidentification of Grotesques?

The current wrack kit is pretty new, and is chock full of options.

They're also five per box for a basic troops choice, so upping the number would be nice. Or even adding detail OR EVEN JUST EARS to their heads.

Maybe it'll be an upgrade sprue like the Necron one, having a group of wracks with bits to make one into a junior haemonculus and a single grotesque to add on to the five.

Valrak says the next KT box is Dark Eldar Mandrakes versus Night Lords, and called Nightmare (or Knightmare I guess?).

The Night Lords would be an upgrade sprue for the existing CSM kit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r76GOBjQXJ4

Also says that he's hearing that after that is Swooping Hawks, Vespid and "jump Imperial Guard" (which sounds like someone not understanding that Elysian grav chutes are to me but that's a guess on my part). He seems a lot less sure about these last three though.

There were grav-chutes in "Guns of Tanith" that could be used as pseudo-jump packs, they might just be running with that.

Hmm...that would kind of be interesting. An IG unit that could deep strike, had 6” movement and the ‘fly’ keyword...

 godswildcard wrote:
Hmm...that would kind of be interesting. An IG unit that could deep strike, had 6” movement and the ‘fly’ keyword...

I'd think of it less like that and more "Deep Strike" and "can move as though has fly".

IIRC, the description was that it allowed for them to move up around 20ish feet or so.

Elysians would be really great to see in KT. Very thematic to have a rapid deployment IG unit there.

I am pretty confident that grav chutes in general could be used as jump packs in low gravity environments (such as on Harakon). Phantine is not explicitly stated to be a low grav world, to my knowledge, but has lots of large sky-fauna that suggest it does have lower gravity than standard.

Alternatively, those grav rigs are simply beefed up versions of standard grav chutes.

Guard had jump pack troops back in the day, so it's not out of the question.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Elysians would be really great to see in KT. Very thematic to have a rapid deployment IG unit there.

Necromunda is showing off a new Tauros...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Guard had jump pack troops back in the day, so it's not out of the question.

Plus jetbikes. I feel like some of the wackier stuff is being pushed into 30k instead though.

 Haighus wrote:
I am pretty confident that grav chutes in general could be used as jump packs in low gravity environments (such as on Harakon). Phantine is not explicitly stated to be a low grav world, to my knowledge, but has lots of large sky-fauna that suggest it does have lower gravity than standard.

Alternatively, those grav rigs are simply beefed up versions of standard grav chutes.

Grav Chutes, in general, could be used as pseudo-jump packs in any environment. They just tend to have limiters in place to make it so even relatively untrained troops can utilize them.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Elysians would be really great to see in KT. Very thematic to have a rapid deployment IG unit there.

Necromunda is showing off a new Tauros...

Imperial intervention on munda? About time to burn that shithole to the ground!

It's a Palanite Enforcer unit, but we have no real picture of the models.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a Palanite Enforcer unit, but we have no real picture of the models.

Yeah, I was joking about that intervention (although it still should be burned to the ground ). BTW I hate that ''Palanite" instead proper Palatine.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Elysians would be really great to see in KT. Very thematic to have a rapid deployment IG unit there.

Necromunda is showing off a new Tauros...

Yep, that would be a good dual-release opportunity.

If they bring back Elysians my wallet is going to cry...

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a Palanite Enforcer unit, but we have no real picture of the models.

Yeah, I was joking about that intervention (although it still should be burned to the ground ). BTW I hate that ''Palanite" instead proper Palatine.

Given it's still the Palatine Cluster and Hive Primus is 'The Palatine', I'm convinced that 'Palanite' was a typo that somehow made its way into the finished product for Enforcers because they were too embarrassed to correct it. That or just general SEO and/or copyright shenanigans.

Id kill for some CSM legion upgrades

But it also makes me not want to build my current marines in case I could get some cool chest plates, weapons, and shoulder pads…

I'd expect Night Lords, if there's truth to this rumor, to get some kind of "signature unit" via an upgrade sprue.

 Jadenim wrote:
Yep, that would be a good dual-release opportunity.

And we know who never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'd expect Night Lords, if there's truth to this rumor, to get some kind of "signature unit" via an upgrade sprue.

Wish they would use one of these slots to redo the Noise Marines since they are desperate for a new kit.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

Wish they would use one of these slots to redo the Noise Marines since they are desperate for a new kit.

Agreed. A proper ''band'' for NM would be great for KT, and also the first step on the road to proper EC force in the future.

Noise Marines. It would be funny if they could never use the concealed order

Plastic Mandrakes would be great.

Noise Marines too obviously but that sounds like bass-less wishlisting

New Valrak video with some Kill Team bits
As a reminder the current rumours are after the Striking Scorpions/Scouts box the next one is rumoured to be Mandrakes vs Night Lords upgrade kit

After that we have rumours for Vespids, Swooping Hawks, and a Guard jump pack unit.

New rumours are that the guard unit isn't actually Elysian Drop Troopers as thought before but Tempestus Scions.
Also a tiny bit about more SM with Jump Pack "that are calling everyone Horus" so Blood Angels?

They'd have to be Death Company with jump packs from that description.

That could be a cool model set tbh and I imagine Blood Angels players would be happy, even if it's not anything I'd need personally.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Plastic Mandrakes would be great.

Noise Marines too obviously but that sounds like bass-less wishlisting

What you did there.

I saw it.

 Matrindur wrote:


New rumours are that the guard unit isn't actually Elysian Drop Troopers as thought before but Tempestus Scions.

As much as Scions are made for KT I would still prefer Elysians first.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:


New rumours are that the guard unit isn't actually Elysian Drop Troopers as thought before but Tempestus Scions.

As much as Scions are made for KT I would still prefer Elysians first.

Scions are looooong overdue for something

Ugh but the Scions are so ugly. Elysians would be a great Kill Team, an opportunity for some very nice poses and special rules with the drop chutes.