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Yeah, this makes perfect sense. I am excited for the Hernkyn on foot at least.

I'm salty that we're literally on a Mechanicus facility with zero Mechanicus presence in KT. We're loooong overdue for a genuine KT set for them.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm salty that we're literally on a Mechanicus facility with zero Mechanicus presence in KT. We're loooong overdue for a genuine KT set for them.

An upgrade sprue for the Sicarians/Rustalkers seems like a no-brainer for this. Both units primary roles are perfectly covered in the scope of Kill Team.

 Haighus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm salty that we're literally on a Mechanicus facility with zero Mechanicus presence in KT. We're loooong overdue for a genuine KT set for them.

An upgrade sprue for the Sicarians/Rustalkers seems like a no-brainer for this. Both units primary roles are perfectly covered in the scope of Kill Team.

The same can be said for Rangers.

I'd love to see something like the Secutarii Pelasts/Hoplites, personally. I think Kill Team would be a great way to incorporate a sprue for them.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
I'd love to see something like the Secutarii Pelasts/Hoplites, personally. I think Kill Team would be a great way to incorporate a sprue for them.

I mean, they literally dumped them into Legends. I think Secutarii are better left to HH at this point since they don't seem to want to give us a plastic Titan...

It wouldn't be wildly out of place for Rangers to get some technoarcane goodies.

Did they say how confident they were in this rumour? Not a lot of design space I'd have thought for Brood Brothers against a background of Blooded, Veteran IG and the Wyrm Blade.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Did they say how confident they were in this rumour? Not a lot of design space I'd have thought for Brood Brothers against a background of Blooded, Veteran IG and the Wyrm Blade.

Not a lot of design space for Night Lords against the Chaos Legionnaires, and yet...

So far this season seems to be "We're Out of Ideas".

..which all plays further into my belief that we were never supposed to get to Season 3 in the first place. It's all sloppy seconds and 40K kits only. Yawn.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
Did they say how confident they were in this rumour? Not a lot of design space I'd have thought for Brood Brothers against a background of Blooded, Veteran IG and the Wyrm Blade.

Not a lot of design space for Night Lords against the Chaos Legionnaires, and yet...

So far this season seems to be "We're Out of Ideas".

Almost, it feels closer to "how can we ninja release some extra 40k stuff we want out but have no release slots for" season.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm salty that we're literally on a Mechanicus facility with zero Mechanicus presence in KT. We're loooong overdue for a genuine KT set for them.

An upgrade sprue for the Sicarians/Rustalkers seems like a no-brainer for this. Both units primary roles are perfectly covered in the scope of Kill Team.

The same can be said for Rangers.

Sure, but I think the kit that builds a squad of literal assassins or infiltrators is about as close as a shoe-in for Kill Team as you can get. Rangers/Vanguard is not as clean in that regard. The majority of infantry kits work reasonably well as a base, but few match the theme as well as sicarians.

They'd be terrifyingly fast though.

Dudeface wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
Did they say how confident they were in this rumour? Not a lot of design space I'd have thought for Brood Brothers against a background of Blooded, Veteran IG and the Wyrm Blade.

Not a lot of design space for Night Lords against the Chaos Legionnaires, and yet...

So far this season seems to be "We're Out of Ideas".

Almost, it feels closer to "how can we ninja release some extra 40k stuff we want out but have no release slots for" season.

This is how I feel about it, also.
Which makes a second Votann-team seem pretty belivable. Since they’re pretty new, and could use a new unit or two (but won’t have a codex release for quite some time yet)

 Haighus wrote:

Sure, but I think the kit that builds a squad of literal assassins or infiltrators is about as close as a shoe-in for Kill Team as you can get. Rangers/Vanguard is not as clean in that regard. The majority of infantry kits work reasonably well as a base, but few match the theme as well as sicarians.

They'd be terrifyingly fast though.

Part of the issue with our disagreement seems to be perception.

When I said "Rangers", I meant a Ranger specific base for a KT. Not "builds either Rangers or Vanguard". I mean ignoring the Vanguard, 100%.
Rangers really need to be refocused if they're going to be left effectively as-is. An additional sprue that is similar to the one Pathfinders got, tossing specialized goodies in for the unit leader and a doubling up for the Transauranic or Arc Rifle.

I don't think we'll see eye to eye on the Sicarian thing. Ruststalkers are "assassins" in their origin only. Infiltrators are viewed as holy champions/paladins by the AdMech forces.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
Did they say how confident they were in this rumour? Not a lot of design space I'd have thought for Brood Brothers against a background of Blooded, Veteran IG and the Wyrm Blade.

Not a lot of design space for Night Lords against the Chaos Legionnaires, and yet...

So far this season seems to be "We're Out of Ideas".

Even the specific traitor legions have stronger individual themes that let them stand out against each other, though to be fair I'd have probably just given them different equipment lists, I'm at a loss to really think of much Brood Brothers would have that veteran guard don't - other than perhaps just being Wyrmblade with special weapons rather than cult agents?

Hmm, unless their unique selling point is that these are rebellious PDF troops, they're just goons, but they're the goons currently on sentry duty on site? Advanced deployment options for the usual GA2 basic guardsman so they're already across the map and an endless horde that return as reinforcements if killed - maybe there is a bit of moisture in the dregs of this barrel still.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm salty that we're literally on a Mechanicus facility with zero Mechanicus presence in KT. We're loooong overdue for a genuine KT set for them.

Well, we were in a space hulk for a full year and never saw hide or hair of a genestealer or terminator, so...

I will probably get Nightmare despite not being super keen on the Mandrakes. They look great, just never cared much for them.

But I do love this rumor Brood Brothers versus Pioneers.

Wonder if they will have another Bheta-Decima themed terrain box.

I'm the opposite: I'm not too keen on the Night Lords as I've never been a NL player, but I love the Mandrakes.

And the terrain!

 Kanluwen wrote:
So far this season seems to be "We're Out of Ideas".

The new models are awesome. Just because they're not ideas that fit with your pet armies, doesn't mean they're bad.

 Manchu wrote:
I will probably get Nightmare despite not being super keen on the Mandrakes. They look great, just never cared much for them.

But I do love this rumor Brood Brothers versus Pioneers.

Wonder if they will have another Bheta-Decima themed terrain box.

There's a big, container-esque bit of a terrain that's in Bheta Decima colours that's been in some of the WarCom previews that wasn't released here so I think that'll probably make it to a later set.

Got a shot of that?

Mandrakes are the stars of this box, terrain is really nice too, and the NL are just there, except the not Konrad, who is awesome.

Neither KT is for me, though I acknowledge the sculpt quality.

I would like the piece of terrain, though - do we think that'll get a solo release down the line?

I love everything in that box. Night Lords are (still) spectacular, Mandrakes are a fine glow up of the metals, the terrain piece is great.


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 Dysartes wrote:
I would like the piece of terrain, though - do we think that'll get a solo release down the line?

Keep an eye on the Warcry great maw, I suppose they will share a similar fate.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Got a shot of that?

Generatorum complex. Nice bit of terrain, would go nicely with the plasma regulators and the haem-whatever generators with some connector pipes.

Could that be the same footprint as the Fronteris landing pad? Or smaller?I guess a bit smaller. How great would it be if the large circle aligned with the large Sector Mechanicus furnace? You even got one in the previous Kill Team box...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Could that be the same footprint as the Fronteris landing pad? Or smaller?I guess a bit smaller. How great would it be if the large circle aligned with the large Sector Mechanicus furnace? You even got one in the previous Kill Team box...

It looks similar in sizing overall, maybe a bit shorter than the landing pad. The pillars flanking the stairs appear to be the same height as the pad surface.

Good thoughts on the circle, we need the Owen reveal to clarify its interchangeability.

 Haighus wrote:
Generatorum complex.

Yeah that wasn't what I was asking about.

I was asking about:

 Tastyfish wrote:
There's a big, container-esque bit of a terrain that's in Bheta Decima colours that's been in some of the WarCom previews that wasn't released here so I think that'll probably make it to a later set.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
How great would it be if the large circle aligned with the large Sector Mechanicus furnace?

It does. 12 seconds in.

 Haighus wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Could that be the same footprint as the Fronteris landing pad? Or smaller?I guess a bit smaller. How great would it be if the large circle aligned with the large Sector Mechanicus furnace? You even got one in the previous Kill Team box...

It looks similar in sizing overall, maybe a bit shorter than the landing pad. The pillars flanking the stairs appear to be the same height as the pad surface.

Good thoughts on the circle, we need the Owen reveal to clarify its interchangeability.

I wonder if the new generatorum will fit on top of the fronteris landing pad. The spacing between the buttresses looks similar, but the buttresses don’t extend from the corners of the generatorum as much as they do on the landing pad.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
Generatorum complex.

Yeah that wasn't what I was asking about.

I was asking about:

 Tastyfish wrote:
There's a big, container-esque bit of a terrain that's in Bheta Decima colours that's been in some of the WarCom previews that wasn't released here so I think that'll probably make it to a later set.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
How great would it be if the large circle aligned with the large Sector Mechanicus furnace?

It does. 12 seconds in.

Oh, I thought they were referring to the same piece. Will need to look at the previews.


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semajnollissor wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Could that be the same footprint as the Fronteris landing pad? Or smaller?I guess a bit smaller. How great would it be if the large circle aligned with the large Sector Mechanicus furnace? You even got one in the previous Kill Team box...

It looks similar in sizing overall, maybe a bit shorter than the landing pad. The pillars flanking the stairs appear to be the same height as the pad surface.

Good thoughts on the circle, we need the Owen reveal to clarify its interchangeability.

I wonder if the new generatorum will fit on top of the fronteris landing pad. The spacing between the buttresses looks similar, but the buttresses don’t extend from the corners of the generatorum as much as they do on the landing pad.

Seems plausible, a lot of the terrain is satisfyingly interchangeable. Would make this about the same size as the fronteris habs though.

Oh, yeah. I don't give a fig about either kill team (just my orks, baby) but that terrain is awesome. I must have it for my Necromunda/HH Mechanicum board.

That terrain will be definitely be on my shopping list year, will do double duty for 40k and Necromunda wonderfully.