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 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
would the box sets have all new models, i wonder? or would they be one or two new kits each, and then repurposed old kits for thematic purpose. y'know, throw in some of the KT inquisitor stuff, or some arbites, or some DW veterans and an upgrade sprue... depending how GW go about this it could be really cool, or it could be just whatever, but either way it'll be at least a little bit interesting

My guess is they'll be 'army sets' of old models with one new one thrown in, so a Xenos inquisitor with a bunch of Deathwatch, a Hereticus inquisitor with some Sisters and a Malleus inquisitor with some Grey Knights. It's becomes something of pattern for new characters of late.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
would the box sets have all new models, i wonder? or would they be one or two new kits each, and then repurposed old kits for thematic purpose. y'know, throw in some of the KT inquisitor stuff, or some arbites, or some DW veterans and an upgrade sprue... depending how GW go about this it could be really cool, or it could be just whatever, but either way it'll be at least a little bit interesting

My guess is they'll be 'army sets' of old models with one new one thrown in, so a Xenos inquisitor with a bunch of Deathwatch, a Hereticus inquisitor with some Sisters and a Malleus inquisitor with some Grey Knights. It's becomes something of pattern for new characters of late.

i wouldn't be opposed to this, actually. i assume that agents are going to stay an allies faction, so this would be more for players of the other factions... as a big agents fan, i'd like an option to use the models in those boxes for the army itself, but maybe they're going to add a reverse souping rule, like letting us take a number of units from other imperial armies

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/18/sunday-preview-the-dark-angels-prepare-to-mobilise/

oh huh, DA already up for preorder. i has assumed, when they got their points updates in the last MFM, that their book would be a ways off since it's rebalancing some stuff not in the book, but i guess not

Two consecutive weeks of marines..Woo..

I wonder when the new Combat Patrol will be released?

Necrons and Ad Mech had theirs released alongside the codexes if I remember correctly.

No mention of the DA one here though.

Have those inner circle models come out previously in a ltd box set?
If so, does anyone know if you can build them without all that gakky plastic smoke? It seems to be all over these new DAs.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/18/sunday-preview-the-dark-angels-prepare-to-mobilise/

oh huh, DA already up for preorder. i has assumed, when they got their points updates in the last MFM, that their book would be a ways off since it's rebalancing some stuff not in the book, but i guess not

The points updates in the MFM are for the INDEX version of the units. Note that in the MFM, Deathwing Knights can still be taken in 10 man units, and the Ravenwing Command Squad is still 3-6 models. I'm pretty sure we'll get a dataslate update similar to what we got for Necrons and AdMech when the book actually drops, and that's where we'll have the final points costs of the Codex version of the units, including the new Inner Circle Companions.

 ZergSmasher wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/18/sunday-preview-the-dark-angels-prepare-to-mobilise/

oh huh, DA already up for preorder. i has assumed, when they got their points updates in the last MFM, that their book would be a ways off since it's rebalancing some stuff not in the book, but i guess not

The points updates in the MFM are for the INDEX version of the units. Note that in the MFM, Deathwing Knights can still be taken in 10 man units, and the Ravenwing Command Squad is still 3-6 models. I'm pretty sure we'll get a dataslate update similar to what we got for Necrons and AdMech when the book actually drops, and that's where we'll have the final points costs of the Codex version of the units, including the new Inner Circle Companions.

yeah yeah, it makes sense, but if the codex was going to drop this close to the MFM, i would've expected them to leave the index points alone, rather than change something which won't matter in just a few weeks

I suspect that gws production difficulties have caused them to alter their release schedule and they are trying to fill time with low hanging fruit that they can get out the door easily without further stock issues while they try to unfuck themselves.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I suspect that gws production difficulties have caused them to alter their release schedule and they are trying to fill time with low hanging fruit that they can get out the door easily without further stock issues while they try to unfuck themselves.

Eh, I don't think so. They usually don't wait terribly long between release of an army set and the full release (Flesh-Eater Courts in AoS didn't go terribly long between either, like a month or so IIRC), as they know the players will be eager for their stuff to be "official" for events and stuff.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/18/sunday-preview-the-dark-angels-prepare-to-mobilise/

oh huh, DA already up for preorder. i has assumed, when they got their points updates in the last MFM, that their book would be a ways off since it's rebalancing some stuff not in the book, but i guess not

The miniatures are beautiful, there's no denying it. But I'm having a bit of trouble with the assembly, it's all mono pose with no options, which is really sad.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Have those inner circle models come out previously in a ltd box set?
If so, does anyone know if you can build them without all that gakky plastic smoke? It seems to be all over these new DAs.

The Inner Circle Companions are released for the first time. Earliest we'll know is Saturday when reviews come out. At a guess they might have some build options so you don't have to use the bits with smoke effect, but I'm not sure GW doubled up on the same bits so you can pick whether you want smoke or not. Which is something they actually did for Asmodai:

GW wrote:He even has a few kit options. He has a choice of heads – hooded and with a halo, and two backpacks – one pouring out clouds of enigmatic smoke.

I'd consider it uncharacteristic and would assume you just have to live with the smoke effect on other models, and that Asmodai is a rare case of realization just how much they overdid it and that it might turn people off if they don't provide a clean backpack.

 ZergSmasher wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
I suspect that gws production difficulties have caused them to alter their release schedule and they are trying to fill time with low hanging fruit that they can get out the door easily without further stock issues while they try to unfuck themselves.

Eh, I don't think so. They usually don't wait terribly long between release of an army set and the full release (Flesh-Eater Courts in AoS didn't go terribly long between either, like a month or so IIRC), as they know the players will be eager for their stuff to be "official" for events and stuff.

The FEC army set was mid December so it was a couple of months for those.

The release from army box window has shortened since they first started doing the army boxes.

The wait for the Ork, BT, Votann and Guard were a lot longer than 4 weeks, which is what it has been since the Deathwing assault box went up to preorder.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
The release from army box window has shortened since they first started doing the army boxes.

The wait for the Ork, BT, Votann and Guard were a lot longer than 4 weeks, which is what it has been since the Deathwing assault box went up to preorder.

The wait for basically everything was a lot longer than the two 40k centric ones have been. For example, Cities of Sigmar players are still waiting for the Wildercorps and Ogors are waiting for the Gorgers out of Hunter and Hunted...while Salvation(which released later) has seen its individual unit boxes come out.

The DA release was odd. The code in the back of the codex that came with the boxset cannot be uploaded into the app. I was informed it will not be available until the wide release of the codex.

I also expect (hope)a points adjustment upon release.

Sarigar wrote:
The DA release was odd. The code in the back of the codex that came with the boxset cannot be uploaded into the app. I was informed it will not be available until the wide release of the codex.

This is normal for these releases.

Sarigar wrote:
The DA release was odd. The code in the back of the codex that came with the boxset cannot be uploaded into the app. I was informed it will not be available until the wide release of the codex.

I also expect (hope)a points adjustment upon release.

Yeah that's standard practice for a limited edition codex. Officially the previous version of the rules are used until it's on general sale and everyone can buy it*.

GW also confirmed that there will be a new MFM soon which covers the new companions, it's not clear if the points for anything else will change though. So far as DWK etc are concerned it's entirely possible the last point updates for those will also be the new ones.

*in theory lmao

 Kanluwen wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
The release from army box window has shortened since they first started doing the army boxes.

The wait for the Ork, BT, Votann and Guard were a lot longer than 4 weeks, which is what it has been since the Deathwing assault box went up to preorder.

The wait for basically everything was a lot longer than the two 40k centric ones have been. For example, Cities of Sigmar players are still waiting for the Wildercorps and Ogors are waiting for the Gorgers out of Hunter and Hunted...while Salvation(which released later) has seen its individual unit boxes come out.

Army boxes is what I was specifically referring to. The release window after Kill Team and Warcry boxes is all over the place. Not discounting what you say though, it seems GW are shunting things forwards and backwards based on demand.... If you can claw back all the R&D and make a substantial profit on a kit quickly (Scouts and Striking Scorpions) before the financial year closes (start of April in the UK) they are going to do that just to inflate the numbers if anything. Whereas other kits may be more of a slow burn.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
If you can claw back all the R&D and make a substantial profit on a kit quickly (Scouts and Striking Scorpions) before the financial year closes (start of April in the UK) they are going to do that just to inflate the numbers if anything. Whereas other kits may be more of a slow burn.

GW's fiscal year begins in June, which is why they like to do major releases that month to kickstart the annual sales figures. April is the UK tax year, which has nothing to do with sales reporting.

The main influence on the pace of releases is going to be the fact they plan to have 5 codexes out in Spring. Despite any logistics issues 40k is still the main gravytrain for GW and is going to be the first priority to meet any deadlines where possible, so I expect we'll see something like this:

Early March: DA
Late March: Kroot box
Early-mid April: Orks & Custodes together
Late April / Early May: Main Tau release
Late May: CSM

 xttz wrote:
Early March: DA
Late March: Kroot box
Early-mid April: Orks & Custodes together
Late April / Early May: Main Tau release
Late May: CSM

I was thinking pretty much this.

I feel for the Orks and Custodes players. Get ready for a single character release for 10th Edition

 alextroy wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Early March: DA
Late March: Kroot box
Early-mid April: Orks & Custodes together
Late April / Early May: Main Tau release
Late May: CSM

I was thinking pretty much this.

I feel for the Orks and Custodes players. Get ready for a single character release for 10th Edition

Not every faction can get a significant range release every edition. Orks had a huge release in 8th/9th as well.

I'd take an update of a really old kit (character or unit) for Eldar etc over finishing the modernisation of Orks, as would many players.

Custodes are also fairly new as a faction still. They may get their update if HH updates the FW based units in plastic.

Del Mingus wrote:
I wonder when the new Combat Patrol will be released?

Necrons and Ad Mech had theirs released alongside the codexes if I remember correctly.

No mention of the DA one here though.

Yesterday's article has now been edited to include the combat patrol

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:

 alextroy wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Early March: DA
Late March: Kroot box
Early-mid April: Orks & Custodes together
Late April / Early May: Main Tau release
Late May: CSM

I was thinking pretty much this.

I feel for the Orks and Custodes players. Get ready for a single character release for 10th Edition

Custodes are also fairly new as a faction still. They may get their update if HH updates the FW based units in plastic.

yeah, custodes are fine right now, with a huge asterisk at the bottom labeled "forge world". if we get our dreads and other guard/terminator options in plastic, then the range is pretty much perfect... but with this release being crammed between a whole bunch of other releases, i don't have high expectations

tho, if we're getting a melta spear captain, maybe that's a good sign that we're getting a melta spear upgrade sprue for guard. would really appreciate that

I'm not saying you're wrong about that. On the other hand, Kroot are now lined up to receive 4 character, 3 infantry, and 2 larger than infantry kits. Dark Angels has 2 characters, 2 units, and an upgrade pack coming out. GW could have shared the love a little more evenly over 4 factions (assuming Orks and Custodies only get 1 character kit each).

Still, they could surprise us. Necrons got a couple of new kits along with characters finally released separately from all the way back in Indomitus.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/02/19/uncover-the-secrets-of-the-new-dark-angels-with-the-warhammer-design-team/

this article has sprue pictures. each sprue is for a specific one of the bladeguard, and as such, it's pretty easy to see that each of them comes with two backpack pieces. one with smoke, and one without. so for those who were worried about that, rest easy!

 xttz wrote:

Sarigar wrote:
The DA release was odd. The code in the back of the codex that came with the boxset cannot be uploaded into the app. I was informed it will not be available until the wide release of the codex.

I also expect (hope)a points adjustment upon release.

Yeah that's standard practice for a limited edition codex. Officially the previous version of the rules are used until it's on general sale and everyone can buy it*.

GW also confirmed that there will be a new MFM soon which covers the new companions, it's not clear if the points for anything else will change though. So far as DWK etc are concerned it's entirely possible the last point updates for those will also be the new ones.

*in theory lmao

I had no idea this was the standard. The app last edition was terrible and I never noticed and didnt buy any of those boxsets. Can't remember if this edition had a prerelease ahead of the codex release.

Did I miss it somewhere? Are the Inner Circle dudes 3 to a box or 6?

I'm guessing 3 since they're sort of Bladeguard.

Just asking since they appear in pictures with 3, 5, and 6 man.....

They are 3 to a box, and each model has 2 pose options, for 6 possible poses. They also have the option to be with or without the smoke, which is nice.

New Valrak rumours:

Grey Knights:
Getting a vehicle - heard it could be an upgraded baby carrier (please no)
Also Kaldor Draigo

Aeldari:
Asurman, Baharroth, Fuegan, new Warp Spiders lord
Swooping Hawks, Fire Dragons, Warp Spiders

Terrain:
Lots of salt here but apparently GW wants to do MDF terrain (I can't see any reality where its priced competitively)