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Also standalone for Big Mek and Squatodes.

"Pious Vorne" has been promoted to Priest! It'll be nice to have a second model...

I hadn't previously clocked that the vindictor weapon was named after the fact that it says desert eagle vindictor on the model.
I guess that's worse than Farsight having a nametag on his shield...

Wonder if this means a new dataslate before the cards release on June 22nd. GW might get it out of the way before their focus shifts to AOS.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I hadn't previously clocked that the vindictor weapon was named after the fact that it says desert eagle vindictor on the model.
I guess that's worse than Farsight having a nametag on his shield...

...still an eviscerator with attached exterminator to me.

Would be funny if they started doing the same with the inscriptions on Marine relic weapons.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Also standalone for Big Mek and Squatodes.

So we can hopefully predict that future army-box-locked models will get standalone releases a couple of codexes down the line, so the CSM alongside the next Codex release.

I really hope that means we get some of the other BSF figures as standalone releases. The ones from Escalation are almost impossible to find now, and they would be most welcome.

Warhammer Community wrote:The book contains five Detachments – including the Brood Brother Auxilia that lets you merge select Astra Militarum units into your army

Army 'stealers are still a thing, but with the upgrade sprue being a lot more specialised than the old one, I wonder how GW will depict them in the book. Still trot out that old Russ and Sentinel?

The new mission deck seems better than Leviathan, which IMHO was complete crap and a huge reason why I've not liked 10th edition. the Secret Missions give me definite 2nd edition mission card vibes. Still not a fan of secondary objectives, but they are what they are.

I still can't believe they went with no middle ground between "narrative games" and "tournament games" i.e. nothing for people who just want to play casual games. It's more mind-boggling because AOS is apparently staying with Open/Narrative/Matched/GHB for 4th edition.

Wayniac wrote:
The new mission deck seems better than Leviathan, which IMHO was complete crap and a huge reason why I've not liked 10th edition. the Secret Missions give me definite 2nd edition mission card vibes. Still not a fan of secondary objectives, but they are what they are.

I still can't believe they went with no middle ground between "narrative games" and "tournament games" i.e. nothing for people who just want to play casual games. It's more mind-boggling because AOS is apparently staying with Open/Narrative/Matched/GHB for 4th edition.

The problem is that people would just play the tournament gamemode even casually because it would be perceived as the 'most balanced' format by default, particularly when it's a random pick up game. In that way, I can't really blame them for not trying to appeal.

 Arbitrator wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
The new mission deck seems better than Leviathan, which IMHO was complete crap and a huge reason why I've not liked 10th edition. the Secret Missions give me definite 2nd edition mission card vibes. Still not a fan of secondary objectives, but they are what they are.

I still can't believe they went with no middle ground between "narrative games" and "tournament games" i.e. nothing for people who just want to play casual games. It's more mind-boggling because AOS is apparently staying with Open/Narrative/Matched/GHB for 4th edition.

The problem is that people would just play the tournament gamemode even casually because it would be perceived as the 'most balanced' format by default, particularly when it's a random pick up game. In that way, I can't really blame them for not trying to appeal.

No, i can't blame them, but I wish that they'd do something to stop people thinking that. It's a very destructive mindset.

Those Sisters dice are horrible colors. There's no way you'll be able to read them from a distance. The GSC ones are fine.

SamusDrake wrote:
"Pious Vorne" has been promoted to Priest! It'll be nice to have a second model...

Yeah, I have one from Blackstone Fortress. And another two from these boxes. The new price for her wouldn't beat 30€ for all the BSF characters and the Ambull.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Warhammer Community wrote:The book contains five Detachments – including the Brood Brother Auxilia that lets you merge select Astra Militarum units into your army

Army 'stealers are still a thing, but with the upgrade sprue being a lot more specialised than the old one, I wonder how GW will depict them in the book. Still trot out that old Russ and Sentinel?

The old upgrade sprue is still listed for sale.

Interestingly enough, Lewis refers to the Neophytes in the army set as "turncoat soldiers" and Brood Brothers were referred to as planetary defence forces in some of the promotional info for the KT set. There's no unit in the GSC book unless the table of contents is wrong.

There's a mention of a "new miniature reveal" for the week and we still have a Redacted Codex to come...maybe we'll be seeing an actual, dedicated Guard Infantry Squad kit coming that the Brood Brother KT upgrade lets you emulate?

Wayniac wrote:
but I wish that they'd do something to stop people thinking that.

How? In every PvP game that I have ever played, both physically and in video games, players overwhelmingly prefer to play with the "competitive" ruleset when given a choice unless the goal is very explictly from all sides to have a goofy and whacky time, in which case they'll play the "party" mode.

It is deeply ingrained in human nature to want an even playing field and not feel cheated when competing. Obviously, when emotional investment in the outcome of a game is involved, players are going to gravitate toward whatever ruleset seems the most fair.

Dudeface wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
Do the coins always correspond to a release? It will be weird to have guard running a full codex for more than half a year.

Marksman's Honor and Iron Halo may be Imperial Agent or Deathwatch related?

Latest rumours are guard being late 2024/early 2025 with an end of year pre-release box with a full release the following Jan.

Deathwatch are possibly being shoved into imperial agents is the speculation.

There's also the rumor that the next season of Kill Team is going to feature new Kasrkin models so that might be the hook with the coin.

 flaherty wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
Do the coins always correspond to a release? It will be weird to have guard running a full codex for more than half a year.

Marksman's Honor and Iron Halo may be Imperial Agent or Deathwatch related?

Latest rumours are guard being late 2024/early 2025 with an end of year pre-release box with a full release the following Jan.

Deathwatch are possibly being shoved into imperial agents is the speculation.

There's also the rumor that the next season of Kill Team is going to feature new Kasrkin models so that might be the hook with the coin.

That would be really weird, since we already got a Kasrkin Kill-Team?

Well these came faster than expected. Planned for Summer on the roadmap and pretty much the earliest possible summer slot


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 flaherty wrote:


There's also the rumor that the next season of Kill Team is going to feature new Kasrkin models so that might be the hook with the coin.

Are you talking about the flying season rumours? Because then its not Kasrkin but Tempestus Scions/Elysian Drop Troops. They have been called both but its pretty much Guard with drop packs. Weither GW makes them specialized Scions or brings back Elysians will have to wait for the actual reveal

 xttz wrote:
Wonder if this means a new dataslate before the cards release on June 22nd. GW might get it out of the way before their focus shifts to AOS.

I'd guess at probably not - dataslates were meant to be every six months now, IIRC, and the last one was January, so I'd expect one during July.

New BL Sororitas model - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/03/a-new-black-library-hero-rises-with-an-incredible-novel-and-miniature/

I quite like that. The helmeted head is much superior, but the tactical rock actually makes it feel like a centrepiece and the Sororitas don't have many of them.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
but I wish that they'd do something to stop people thinking that.

How? In every PvP game that I have ever played, both physically and in video games, players overwhelmingly prefer to play with the "competitive" ruleset when given a choice unless the goal is very explictly from all sides to have a goofy and whacky time, in which case they'll play the "party" mode.

It is deeply ingrained in human nature to want an even playing field and not feel cheated when competing. Obviously, when emotional investment in the outcome of a game is involved, players are going to gravitate toward whatever ruleset seems the most fair.

I don't know how, I'm just tired of that terrible mindset infesting everything. It turns the game from being interesting to being bland and boring, which is a huge issue with 10th edition already.

Wayniac wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
but I wish that they'd do something to stop people thinking that.

How? In every PvP game that I have ever played, both physically and in video games, players overwhelmingly prefer to play with the "competitive" ruleset when given a choice unless the goal is very explictly from all sides to have a goofy and whacky time, in which case they'll play the "party" mode.

It is deeply ingrained in human nature to want an even playing field and not feel cheated when competing. Obviously, when emotional investment in the outcome of a game is involved, players are going to gravitate toward whatever ruleset seems the most fair.

I don't know how, I'm just tired of that terrible mindset infesting everything. It turns the game from being interesting to being bland and boring, which is a huge issue with 10th edition already.

See that isn't a "competitive rules set" its a "how GW made 10th" aspect.

It's not helped by the fact that GW never fully lets their rules actually reach a mature state of play where they are polished and well oiled and where poeple know how it works well and are thus more apt to experiment outside of the pure competitive game.

 The Phazer wrote:
New BL Sororitas model - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/03/a-new-black-library-hero-rises-with-an-incredible-novel-and-miniature/

I quite like that. The helmeted head is much superior, but the tactical rock actually makes it feel like a centrepiece and the Sororitas don't have many of them.

gorgeous model


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is this supposed to be a "use it as an existing character", or will she be getting a datasheet of her own? base feels too big to use as an AdSor character

I like both Cherubs but the model is not to my taste.

oh also, from the latest auspex tactics video: it's really weird that Acolytes are getting split up based on what pistols they're using. like i get it, hand flamers are too strong, but it's still a weird call to make

Someone in GW design and management loves SOB!

Lovely model.

Is the wargear OK for a cannoness? She looks right for the job.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
oh also, from the latest auspex tactics video: it's really weird that Acolytes are getting split up based on what pistols they're using. like i get it, hand flamers are too strong, but it's still a weird call to make

I wouldn't be surprised if this means they're splitting the special weapon options and creating two units with distinct roles. For example; handflamers & demo charges with a ranged datasheet ability, and autopistols & heavy miining weapons with a melee-focused special rule.

 Dysartes wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Wonder if this means a new dataslate before the cards release on June 22nd. GW might get it out of the way before their focus shifts to AOS.

I'd guess at probably not - dataslates were meant to be every six months now, IIRC, and the last one was January, so I'd expect one during July.

It's not like GW have ever stuck to a strict schedule for these updates, 3/6 months was is a guideline and the actual dates always shifted back & forth around other demands as needed. We've had anywhere from 2-4 months between updates in the past.

The last points update felt very much like a placeholder in lieu of further changes later, with confirmation they'd already done some work on a new balance update. Releasing a new card deck at the end of June that overhauls how the game is played is far too late to implement any feedback for a July dataslate. The start of a 'new season' plus updated MFM for two codexes seems like the ideal time for rebalancing.

 xttz wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if this means they're splitting the special weapon options and creating two units with distinct roles. For example; handflamers & demo charges with a ranged datasheet ability, and autopistols & heavy miining weapons with a melee-focused special rule.

I'd think it would be the autopistols with the ranged ability?

Hopefully this means that Guard might be seeing their Heavy Weapon Squads split up into the old "Fire Support, Anti-Tank, and Mortar" setup. Really needed at this point.

 Dysartes wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Wonder if this means a new dataslate before the cards release on June 22nd. GW might get it out of the way before their focus shifts to AOS.

I'd guess at probably not - dataslates were meant to be every six months now, IIRC, and the last one was January, so I'd expect one during July.

It's not like GW have ever stuck to a strict schedule for these updates, 3/6 months was is a guideline and the actual dates always shifted back & forth around other demands as needed. We've had anywhere from 2-4 months between updates in the past.

The last points update felt very much like a placeholder in lieu of further changes later, with confirmation they'd already done some work on a new balance update. Releasing a new card deck at the end of June that overhauls how the game is played is far too late to implement any feedback for a July dataslate. The start of a 'new season' plus updated MFM for two codexes seems like the ideal time for rebalancing.

Don't forget that they made a mention of AdMech being in line for something significant with the next dataslate. New season would be a good time to drop that too for data gathering purposes.

 Nevelon wrote:
Lovely model.

Is the wargear OK for a cannoness? She looks right for the job.

I don't think any sisters characters can actually take hand flamers But swapping that out would be easy enough to make either a cannoness or palatine.