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Hopefully he'll be able to lead an army of chainglaive weilders and terminators.

Speaking of, did WE ever get termies?

Arbitrator: I meant World Eaters. Should've been clearer.

WE get the generic CSM ones.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, the sword mentioned in the article. Anyone know the significance of it?

I think it's referencing this:

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fireblade_(Weapon)

 Matrindur wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
He’s here

I like the HH version way better but that was expected but even without that version I'm not really impressed. The wings feel too small the hair doesn't really fit my image of Fulgrim (Even after being in the warp for so long) and the snake part looks more like a costume pulled over his body than an actual snake body. Overall he is still fine but not in the same ballpark as the other primarchs have been for me. Of course all of this is subjective and other people will love him but at least for me its a bit disappointing

Depending on size, the wings might be fixed by doing a swap with the other faction-heading snake-person, i.e. Morathi.

It's a nice update of the original:



I'm not an EC player, but I do like the model a lot. The durability and reduced cost of plastic makes this a much better option for actual gamers.

It definitely lacks the regality and splendor of HH Fulgrim but its a great model.

Not a fan of the wings; I'm sure its just the paint but they remind of me of shark pods or "mermaids purses" that wash up on the beach.

But I get it. FW Fulgrim just isn't an option for a lot of players. This is a quality substitute. Grats EC enjoyers.

GrosseSax wrote:
But I get it. FW Fulgrim just isn't an option for a lot of players.

Less that and more "this is an infinitely more playable model due to the material". FW Fugrim is an excellent display model, but I'd hate to actually use it.

 Platuan4th wrote:

GrosseSax wrote:
But I get it. FW Fulgrim just isn't an option for a lot of players.

Less that and more "this is an infinitely more playable model due to the material". FW Fugrim is an excellent display model, but I'd hate to actually use it.

Agreed and I think GW largely delivered on that here.

 Platuan4th wrote:

GrosseSax wrote:
But I get it. FW Fulgrim just isn't an option for a lot of players.

Less that and more "this is an infinitely more playable model due to the material". FW Fugrim is an excellent display model, but I'd hate to actually use it.

Knowing the Greater KoS model, I would be afraid of putting him together.

It also makes me wonder if he'll also get optional weapons besides his greatsword(a la Avatar of Khaine)

I don't play Chaos, but I do like the new Fulgrim. The faces are kind of weird but it feels wrong to cover his face with a mask, considering one of Fulgrim's best known traits is his vanity.

I take it you never read Demon World(Violators warband) or played Street Fighter(Vega in particular).]

Cool model. Looks more inhuman after 10k years.

Regarding the wings: in the front view they look much smaller than they really are.

Eh. It's nice I guess.

Friends will print me some proper head options. That aside, I think it is pretty stellar. The original space marine arms retained, the armour piece, the gems, the wings, the wicked tail. I like it immensely.

One need to consider GWs official paint jobs are mostly horrible when it comes to faces. Its a techniqe that specialise in bringing out details when marketing the model, its not a great way to present a pretty face.

About the "mask" option, I would have loved to see a masterfully crafted dramatic masque adorned with jewels, but this looks far to "functional" with the robust frame and the voice/scream amplifier.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, the sword mentioned in the article. Anyone know the significance of it?

I think the implication is it’s the one Ferrus Manus made for him. Clearly he’s still a bit guilty about killing old Ferrus.

I think its the best of the primarch models so far, the most distinctive with a fitting but not overblown set of detail (Angron just looks like a bloodthirster with a better pose, and Magnus is just dull. Mortarion would've been great without the ephemeral strands of floating)

Don't like most of the alternate heads (other than the mask). The wings feel extraneous. The angle and posture of the wing-limbs fits the pose, but the wings themselves seem unnecessary compared to another set of weapon-arms.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, the sword mentioned in the article. Anyone know the significance of it?

Pre heresy, Fulgrim and Ferrus were bros. They had a contest to each forge the best weapon, and they both secretly made a weapon for the other - Fulgrim made a hammer and Ferrus a sword. They swapped them and carried them since, Ferrus' hammer is an option on the HH Perty model.

It's an alright sculpt but Mortarion remains leagues above his brethren. Lightning in a bottle, I guess.

Given some of the centrepiece models we've had in recent years, the thing I'm most impressed about with The Fulgrim model is the sensible posing... They've managed to make a model that could have been a nightmare look like it's actually vaguely practical to use on the table.

 BertBert wrote:
It's an alright sculpt but Mortarion remains leagues above his brethren. Lightning in a bottle, I guess.

Mortarion is just a giant Marine with moth wings. I mean, he was described as skeletonized in older sources, so the model wasn't exactly what I expected. Better and far less comical than most of the DG range though, but that's not a challenge.

I'll definitely be picking this beast up. FW fulgrim is a great model but I'd never in a hundred years put it on the table.

 PenitentJake wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
I really like it, but I do agree that the FW one is better. I think I'd be blown away by this if the FW didn't exist though. And he will be a lot less fragile to actually play with...

Whether I agree that the FW sculpt is better or not, (it is), this is the better model, by virtue of being half price and plastic.

The FW version is $345 CAD, which makes the product garbage, no matter how good it looks.

A) do you know how much this one costs? (Genuine question)


B) I think you are conflating value for money with perception of quality. Both important, but critically, both also highly subjective.

Generally speaking FW models that get ports to plastic drop in price by about half.

For example 2 plastic Cerastus Knights costs about the same as getting the same in resin before the kit was discontinued.
The Malcador plastic kit is a little over half but you get all the basic chassis options in one go.

Daemon Fulgrim will sit with the Greater Daemons and other Daemon Primarchs in terms of price.

I LOVE HIM

I'm ridiculously excited omg. He has much more of the sinister and twisted about him than the FW version, which fits seeing as he's been a daemon prince for 10k years at this point.

I prefer the FW model's body as it's literally perfect, but I feel like the FW one would be a bitch to use or even just store - the wings are much too big imo, and just makes him more fragile. I think this is a great compromise on usability and style - plus I won't be scared to paint this Fulgrim in fear of not doing it justice. It feels much more manageable for an average painter.

There are things about it I would change (have a beautiful face and a passive face amongst the roaring ones, make his hair less tall, add more details to his armour) but overall I love him.

Roll Three Dice wrote:

A) do you know how much this one costs? (Genuine question)

Mortarion, Angron, and Magnus are all £102.50, so I think it would be really weird if Fulgrim is much different from them.

Magnificent sculpt. There are some bits I like more and some bits I like less than the FW sculpt (which I also own) but this one will be my gaming piece for both 30k and 40k. Really love the sense of movement, helmet option & fireblade.

The FW version is in my opinion one of the best sculpts GW have ever put out. I don’t feel like this is that much worse, which is pretty impressive. I really like them both as two takes on the same Primarch. I like that the snake body is a bit more eel/sea creature than snake. The wings are maybe a touch small, I don’t love all the faces (but I do like half of them quite a bit and I love the helmet). I’m impressed!

TBH though I was kinda hoping to see the army box or the units, as they make up most of the army.

That you have to choose between the better sculpt or the better material seems like a very thematic dilemma for Snakeyboi.

 ImAGeek wrote:

TBH though I was kinda hoping to see the army box or the units, as they make up most of the army.

Same. I figured it was going to be Fulgrim, or god forbid, just Lucius, but a part of me was hoping they'd show off the upcoming boxset and then end it by teasing Fulgrim.

 GaroRobe wrote:
He’s here

I don't know who this "Fulgrim" is, but I'm liking the new Morathi model.