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Honestly whilst I like shiny collectible stuff a LOT of the time I look at them and pass. Even for my favoured army of decades the Tyranids I don't own any limited edition codex because -- I could get a MODEL for the difference from a regular codex plus I'd have to get a regular codex anyway so I can game with it without spoiling it with wear and tear.

Limited models have much more luck though I hate how GW often makes you do a hoop jump to get them - I'd love if they just had a flat out "get them at your store opening/ceremony day OR at the end of the year we do a one and done made-to-order for everyone.

Honestly if it were just fluff I'd be all over that - it's very pretty. But it's hard to want to shell out premium prices for a rulebook that will be invalidated before it even arrives.

Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I mean, cool if you want to pay that price for something that has a shelf life of the next balance sheet. Also it reminds me of a while back when they got into that habit of releasing different tiers of special edition codices.

i think that a special edition like this helps give them more life since they're now more meaningful as a collectable

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

That's not a definitive answer to wether or not they'll get their own Codex. Please point to GW themselves saying either Yes/No.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I mean, cool if you want to pay that price for something that has a shelf life of the next balance sheet. Also it reminds me of a while back when they got into that habit of releasing different tiers of special edition codices.

i think that a special edition like this helps give them more life since they're now more meaningful as a collectable

I mean, not really? It's still only as useful up until the rules change. Which is usually immediately. The more i look at it, the less impressed i am with it. It's pretty, but it's going to be an unusable book, some card stock and the tokens.

ccs wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

That's not a definitive answer to wether or not they'll get their own Codex. Please point to GW themselves saying either Yes/No.

GW likely won't say anything until all 4 Chaos Legion books are out.

Wonder what the tokens are made of?

It's a cool looking product. Don't play Chaos, but if they came out with an IK one I'd be tempted.

They're metal, says in the article.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I mean, cool if you want to pay that price for something that has a shelf life of the next balance sheet. Also it reminds me of a while back when they got into that habit of releasing different tiers of special edition codices.

i think that a special edition like this helps give them more life since they're now more meaningful as a collectable

I mean, not really? It's still only as useful up until the rules change. Which is usually immediately. The more i look at it, the less impressed i am with it. It's pretty, but it's going to be an unusable book, some card stock and the tokens.

The upcoming army box - which most EC player's will be after - also has a codex and all the datacards, which can be used for playing while this thing sits on a shelf.

 Overread wrote:

ccs wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

That's not a definitive answer to wether or not they'll get their own Codex. Please point to GW themselves saying either Yes/No.

GW likely won't say anything until all 4 Chaos Legion books are out.

Okay, so no official word just yet. Cheers.

Yep but if they do to 40K what they've done to AoS its an easy pattern to follow

Right now I'd assume each demon god will get its own codex combined with the mortal/marine followers and that there will be no single chaos god book. The limited edition codex might even support that considering its split into 4 not 5 limited specials.

 Gert wrote:
They're metal, says in the article.

Thanks, I must've overlooked it.

Won't bother trying to get the other legions as the entire set will cost an arm and a limb, but I'll try to get this one given it's the first ever EC codex and they're my favourite army

They could get me buying stuff like that if the Codex included some BL short stories featuring the faction. Or proper unit descriptions(they didn't bring them back in 10th, right?) Or if there were special decals. Or a unique crusade/ narrative campaign. Or 3 large wallpapers.
Metal tokens with no use, unit cards and strats that are outdated within a year though and no german version? Naaa...
Unlike other posters I disagree that a codex becomes useless because of updates or Edition changes because I reread my old Codizes regularly. The main text usually is the same since 3rd edition, but every codex has some unique fluff pages. Hence the best time to buy a Codex is within half a year after an edition change because then you can get them for 5€.

 Overread wrote:

ccs wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Very nice. If 11th edition is going to be compatible with 10th edition then it's probably worth doing.

Mildly curious, has GW themselves given the official word that Chaos Daemons is not getting a codex for 10th edition?

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

That's not a definitive answer to wether or not they'll get their own Codex. Please point to GW themselves saying either Yes/No.

GW likely won't say anything until all 4 Chaos Legion books are out.

And GW likely won't say anything even after all 4 Chaos books arrive if the answers a no.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

If the recent leaks are true (and they probably are, given how review copies of the EC box are now out), then Legions are only getting a subset of Daemon units that are limited to max 50% points of one detachment.

That points towards daemons remaining a standalone faction, although it's still not clear if they'll get a codex or just continue as an index.

 xttz wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

If the recent leaks are true (and they probably are, given how review copies of the EC box are now out), then Legions are only getting a subset of Daemon units that are limited to max 50% points of one detachment.

That points towards daemons remaining a standalone faction, although it's still not clear if they'll get a codex or just continue as an index.

Regardless, I hope they still let daemons act as allies for other Chaos factions.

 xttz wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

demons are showing up in the individual god legion codexes. this was confirmed a while back

If the recent leaks are true (and they probably are, given how review copies of the EC box are now out), then Legions are only getting a subset of Daemon units that are limited to max 50% points of one detachment.

That points towards daemons remaining a standalone faction, although it's still not clear if they'll get a codex or just continue as an index.

That leak did say that you can't take several units that were literally pictured in the big EC group shot by GW, so I am taking it with more than a pinch of salt personally.

 The Phazer wrote:


That leak did say that you can't take several units that were literally pictured in the big EC group shot by GW, so I am taking it with more than a pinch of salt personally.

Is there another leak somewhere that hasn't been posted here yet? The one from a couple of pages ago said the codex does not have Predators, Vindicators, Forgefiends, & Helbrutes... and none of those are in the group shot. Just a maulerfiend and heldrake.

Also we've not seen alliance rules yet - so it could be those units aren't in the core codex but are easily allied in from the Chaos core army and thus might not be as much a barrier to taking. It might might mean that in the future they never get an EC upgrade pack/individual release with unique designs for EC

 Overread wrote:
Also we've not seen alliance rules yet - so it could be those units aren't in the core codex but are easily allied in from the Chaos core army and thus might not be as much a barrier to taking. It might might mean that in the future they never get an EC upgrade pack/individual release with unique designs for EC

I would love it if they allowed the Mono gods to take some CSM allies. It's kinda baffling they haven't done it already. Just like SM divergents needing the vanilla codex, I would totally double dip some CSM units in my Death Guard.

Yep or it might mean they are leaving those spots empty with a view that they'll (in time) get their own unique units that fill those roles.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Also we've not seen alliance rules yet - so it could be those units aren't in the core codex but are easily allied in from the Chaos core army and thus might not be as much a barrier to taking. It might might mean that in the future they never get an EC upgrade pack/individual release with unique designs for EC

I would love it if they allowed the Mono gods to take some CSM allies. It's kinda baffling they haven't done it already. Just like SM divergents needing the vanilla codex, I would totally double dip some CSM units in my Death Guard.

I think it depends on the legion. For example, Thousand Sons Legionnaires/Havocs/Chosen shouldn't be a thing.

Taking them as allies would be one thing, but going the 'supplement' route like loyalists wouldn't work the same way.

 xttz wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:


That leak did say that you can't take several units that were literally pictured in the big EC group shot by GW, so I am taking it with more than a pinch of salt personally.

Is there another leak somewhere that hasn't been posted here yet? The one from a couple of pages ago said the codex does not have Predators, Vindicators, Forgefiends, & Helbrutes... and none of those are in the group shot. Just a maulerfiend and heldrake.

I have an old school all metal Chaos dreadnaught that has been subbing as a Helbrute as the name "Dreadnaught" has fallen away over the years. Now it seems like the old guy might just have to retire. Its a pitty about my two Predators as well, but if I can field my damonettes again, I'll learn to live with it, I think.

Helbrutes are found in every CSM army, I'm not sure why EC wouldn't have them.

 Jayden63 wrote:

I have an old school all metal Chaos dreadnaught that has been subbing as a Helbrute as the name "Dreadnaught" has fallen away over the years. Now it seems like the old guy might just have to retire. Its a pitty about my two Predators as well, but if I can field my damonettes again, I'll learn to live with it, I think.

Nice, that's a classic mini.

Just before WE first released I picked up one of the then-new HH Contemptor dreads and Chaos-fied it with skulls & chains to use as a Helbrute. It has hardly seen the tabletop much due to the excessive point cost, I hope the WE codex doesn't bury it completely.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Helbrutes are found in every CSM army, I'm not sure why EC wouldn't have them.

All I can think of is that they have some kind of bespoke sonic dreadnought in the pipeline for EC later. I'm not willing to bet any money on that, though.

 xttz wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:


That leak did say that you can't take several units that were literally pictured in the big EC group shot by GW, so I am taking it with more than a pinch of salt personally.

Is there another leak somewhere that hasn't been posted here yet? The one from a couple of pages ago said the codex does not have Predators, Vindicators, Forgefiends, & Helbrutes... and none of those are in the group shot. Just a maulerfiend and heldrake.

I don't think these two things can be treated as independent though. I suspect they are stated as not included in the leak because they don't appear in the picture.

Yea I am not sure about that leak. Here is a break down by Auspex about the leaks, which he seems to think holds water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xrTgxTJEUo&t=1054s

However, I am not sold as a lot of that could be educated guess type stuff, like the stats for Fulgrim are about what any person would guess them to be. Saying no predators or hellbrutes is a good way to get people worked up, as they are not in the pic by GW, so it can't be disproved easily now. While these may turn out to be true (or partially true) I also give very little credit to word only leaks, has it is bad enough with people faking pictures, but with just word anyone can say anything. I am not going to fret about it until we see some pictures etc. Also GW should make a sonic dread, that would sell like hot cakes (although lately most GW stuff is selling like hot cakes)

 xeen wrote:
Yea I am not sure about that leak.

I've seen enough corroborations of the EC leak from trusted people on Discord to believe it's accurate*. Review copies of the EC army box are currently out with content creators and that's almost certainly the source of the information.

EC *should* be the next preorder announcement per another reliable source on TGA, and if that's the case we'll be able to confirm by 22nd Feb.

*That doesn't mean it's perfect of course. There is always an element of telephone game involved with this stuff, but at this point I assume 95%+ of it will be true.