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Out of curiousity I did a check on which finecast kits are still available for 40k and the list is now short enough to be a rumour engine on it's own. The ones I've marked like this* are either officially confirmed as getting a new kit (in the case of the SW Rune Priest) or have been mentioned by Valrak in a rumour list.

Ultramarines Honour Guard (4 models)
Sammael (DA)
Kaldor Draigo & Brother-Captain (GK)
Rune priest, 2 terminator* and 2 mounted characters (SW)
Vulkan Hestan*
Eisenhorn
Sly Marbo
Ork weirdboy
Trazyn*, C'tan Deceiver, C'tan Nightbringer*

There's also Tau Firesight Team, SW Cyberwolf, and Khorne daemon Skullmaster herald that are unlikely to be replaced via a 40k release.

The Ork weirdboy seems like something that'll be saved for early 11th alongside an Ork range refresh. But if I was a betting guy I'd think that Draigo has to have good odds of being covered in this end of edition campaign, and if the Deceiver doesn't show up with the other two Nercon characters then it'll probably be the token model with a Necron 11E codex.

...when did the Rune Priest get official confirmation, xttz? The Wolf Priest is shown in the Adepticon article, but I cannae see a mention of the Rune Priest.

 Dysartes wrote:
...when did the Rune Priest get official confirmation, xttz? The Wolf Priest is shown in the Adepticon article, but I cannae see a mention of the Rune Priest.

It got confirmed inside my head when I mixed up two units with a similar name!

No worries - just wanted to check I hadn't missed something

 Lord Damocles wrote:
GW makes moulds for the free models they give away in stores each month. The prices really aren't that prohibitive.

The free models of the month are not unique models, they just open an existing unit kit and build them. So no they don't make moulds just for free models.

Discount Dracula wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
GW makes moulds for the free models they give away in stores each month. The prices really aren't that prohibitive.

The free models of the month are not unique models, they just open an existing unit kit and build them. So no they don't make moulds just for free models.

They do both, depending on the month. It may be one or the other.

Discount Dracula wrote:
The free models of the month are not unique models, they just open an existing unit kit and build them. So no they don't make moulds just for free models.

Sometimes this is the case, but more often than not the "monthly free model" comes as a seperate sprue building just that model (or two, with Skaven last month). The "grab a sprue from the box and split it manually" is the exception, not the rule.

Discount Dracula wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
GW makes moulds for the free models they give away in stores each month. The prices really aren't that prohibitive.

The free models of the month are not unique models, they just open an existing unit kit and build them. So no they don't make moulds just for free models.

I've received a single sprue model before. It may depend on region/store

Wait. Did you say Sly Marbo is Finecast and not plastic?

I think I just made a terrible online purchase.

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

I've been looking at the Dark Eldar and they need some TLC. They are more neglected than ... uh...

Well, anyhow, I haven't seen anything in any of the previews about the Lady, could she be a Warhammer+ or other Exclusive?

Andykp wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

I think they're definitely short a few units with the way the army is so heavily divided along the three subfactions, unless there's some big shake up planned compared to how they worked previously.

A couple of cross-over units (say a Haemonculus Arena Construct - that get enhanced by coven units but boosts cult ones nearby, or a Cabal vehicle boosting cult units as it livestreams the battle back home, or a Coven Soulvault acting to motivate cabal troops by placing their immortal lives at risk whilst also allowing rapid regeneration or fresh clones etc) to make a 75/25 split more appealing when the detachment is very much focused on just boosting one element.

Although if the Duke is also returning, I wonder if the Corsairs will find their way more into the Dark Eldar book. Valrak has had a rumour of them getting an expanded range with vehicles and other units. He is an old Dark Eldar character, but in the background is the leader of the Sky Serpent Corsairs.

Andykp wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

Really? Even just bringing back lost options would be 4+ units (Bloodbrides, Trueborn, Court, Beastmaster) and 4+ characters (Duke, Decapitator, Baron, Vect) and there used to be 2 levels for each generic HQ.

 Quixote wrote:
Wait. Did you say Sly Marbo is Finecast and not plastic?

I think I just made a terrible online purchase.

Should have bought Chuck Ranger instead. Because only Chuck can come in Finecast without flaws.

Andykp wrote:

Havik110 wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I'm not really familiar with the Dark Eldar. Who is the Lady, and why is everyone so excited to see her?

We are excited because we havent gotten much love since 5th edition. The new models (while small) still hold up (current archon is meh time for a new one GW)

In 6th edition they removed 5 characters
Vect, Lady M (pictured here), Duke Sliscus (another archon that likes Drugs), Baron Sathonyx (hellion leader), and the Decapitator (mandrake HQ). None of the 6 of us dark eldar players were very happy

They also removed the Dias of destruction (vects ride) which while old they had a model for

They gave us 1 grotesque sculpt, the court, and beasts, that have since been removed from sale since they were in fine cast

Since then they have upgraded characters we got in 5th to plastic, made Lilith snarl, and generally ignored us. Anything new is welcome so they can ignore us for ~20 years again.

You’ve also got that incubi character and the incubi and then mandrakes via killteam.

Incubi character is Drazhar, we had a drazhar model (even if it was from 3rd edtion).
Same with lilith (its a downgrade IMO)
The mandrakes are plastic over fincast, upgrade yes
Incubi were also made plastic over fine cast.
The point being, we had 5 (6 if out count the dias) characters removed completely and now we have 3 units you cant buy at all.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Andykp wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

Really? Even just bringing back lost options would be 4+ units (Bloodbrides, Trueborn, Court, Beastmaster) and 4+ characters (Duke, Decapitator, Baron, Vect) and there used to be 2 levels for each generic HQ.

And a generic Succubus on a jetbike would be nice too: a dual kit with an optional Archon rider would be even better, but Reavers are Wyches, not Kabalytes, so I could see GW giving us just a succubus.

 Dysartes wrote:

Havik110 wrote:
They also removed the Dias of destruction (vects ride) which while old they had a model for

In fairness, if you're resculpting the Raider & Ravager, then removing the Dias makes sense - though it (and Vect) should've returned by now.

I would have loved if the Dias was TWO raider kits, with an add-on sprue to make them a single catamaran with Vect's throne in the center. I don't care if it would have cost 3 time that of a Raider.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

Havik110 wrote:
They also removed the Dias of destruction (vects ride) which while old they had a model for

In fairness, if you're resculpting the Raider & Ravager, then removing the Dias makes sense - though it (and Vect) should've returned by now.

I would have loved if the Dias was TWO raider kits, with an add-on sprue to make them a single catamaran with Vect's throne in the center. I don't care if it would have cost 3 time that of a Raider.

Or re-imagine the Tantalus in plastic with optional parts for a throne.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Andykp wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

Really? Even just bringing back lost options would be 4+ units (Bloodbrides, Trueborn, Court, Beastmaster) and 4+ characters (Duke, Decapitator, Baron, Vect) and there used to be 2 levels for each generic HQ.

I'd want to see them evolved if so. Trueborn and bloodbrides being simply kabalites/wyches with more specials is a boring concept and treads on the toes of other units.

The army also suffers from the "3 armies in 1" problem, where it maybe does need 2 ranks of hq, simply because each third doesn't have enough on its own.

I miss when Haemonculi were like Commissars and could just tack onto units as needed.

Dark Eldar are one of those armies where you think they are in a good spot cause they've had a bunch of decent kits over the years and if you don't play them you don't really twig that they've actually lost more than you realise outside of leaders.

That said considering Necrons, Eldar, Tyranids and Orks are all in pretty good standing that does leave a nice spot for Dark Eldar to swoop in as an edition focus for a big chunky update.

Dudeface wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Andykp wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

Really? Even just bringing back lost options would be 4+ units (Bloodbrides, Trueborn, Court, Beastmaster) and 4+ characters (Duke, Decapitator, Baron, Vect) and there used to be 2 levels for each generic HQ.

I'd want to see them evolved if so. Trueborn and bloodbrides being simply kabalites/wyches with more specials is a boring concept and treads on the toes of other units.

The army also suffers from the "3 armies in 1" problem, where it maybe does need 2 ranks of hq, simply because each third doesn't have enough on its own.

Quite a few armies have multiple ranks of HQ, plus a number of different specialist HQs as well. 4 of the 5 Dark Eldar characters can only join a single specific unit.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Andykp wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
None of those are new though, just model refreshes for existing characters / units.

Dark eldar don’t need anything new particularly. Maybe characters but not units, they’re ok for units. Maybe biased as I don’t like named character.

Really? Even just bringing back lost options would be 4+ units (Bloodbrides, Trueborn, Court, Beastmaster) and 4+ characters (Duke, Decapitator, Baron, Vect) and there used to be 2 levels for each generic HQ.

I'd want to see them evolved if so. Trueborn and bloodbrides being simply kabalites/wyches with more specials is a boring concept and treads on the toes of other units.

The army also suffers from the "3 armies in 1" problem, where it maybe does need 2 ranks of hq, simply because each third doesn't have enough on its own.

Quite a few armies have multiple ranks of HQ, plus a number of different specialist HQs as well. 4 of the 5 Dark Eldar characters can only join a single specific unit.

I know, but it's also part and parcel of the army having its identity in 3 separate bags, much as daemons did. I wouldn't disagree they could do with more, but that is the reason why.

Dudeface wrote:


I know, but it's also part and parcel of the army having its identity in 3 separate bags, much as daemons did. I wouldn't disagree they could do with more, but that is the reason why.

Each of the 4 daemons factions are flush with HQ in comparison? If you put Drazhar in the kabal theme, then each of the 3 themes has a single foot HQ and a named foot hq.
Khorne has 6 characters- monster + unique, a foot + unique, 1 cav, and 1 chariot.
Tzeentch has 7- monster + unique, 2 foot + unique, 1 cav, and 1 lone flying thing
Nurgle has 6- monster + unique, 3 foot + unique, and 1 cav
Slaanesh has 7- monster plus unique, and 3 foot + 2 unique

Additionally there is Belakor and daemon prince on foot and winged for 3 more monster characters.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Dudeface wrote:


I know, but it's also part and parcel of the army having its identity in 3 separate bags, much as daemons did. I wouldn't disagree they could do with more, but that is the reason why.

Each of the 4 daemons factions are flush with HQ in comparison? If you put Drazhar in the kabal theme, then each of the 3 themes has a single foot HQ and a named foot hq.
Khorne has 6 characters- monster + unique, a foot + unique, 1 cav, and 1 chariot.
Tzeentch has 7- monster + unique, 2 foot + unique, 1 cav, and 1 lone flying thing
Nurgle has 6- monster + unique, 3 foot + unique, and 1 cav
Slaanesh has 7- monster plus unique, and 3 foot + 2 unique

Additionally there is Belakor and daemon prince on foot and winged for 3 more monster characters.

Thank you for reinforcing my point

Not played them myself but played against them, they really need a way to make the 3 armies in one work, each bit can’t be a fully fleshed out force. True born and what have you were always a lazy way to pad out the force,

Is there anything that is really missing units wise? I get that they are thin on characters and agree some cross over ones would be good. But they have a decent mix of unit types, converting the last of the finecast stuff would be good like beasts and court.

Always thought he court would make a good killteam, like the inquisitors retinue.


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I can see they haven’t had anything “new” in a while. Hoping for something more than a couple of named characters.

Andykp wrote:
Not played them myself but played against them, they really need a way to make the 3 armies in one work, each bit can’t be a fully fleshed out force. True born and what have you were always a lazy way to pad out the force,

There are no force organisation slots anymore, but some sort of Wych Cult 'heavy support' giant arena beast, and Haemonculus Coven 'fast attack' scuttly many-legged wracks would make each of the three sub-armies feel more complete.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Andykp wrote:
Not played them myself but played against them, they really need a way to make the 3 armies in one work, each bit can’t be a fully fleshed out force. True born and what have you were always a lazy way to pad out the force,

There are no force organisation slots anymore, but some sort of Wych Cult 'heavy support' giant arena beast, and Haemonculus Coven 'fast attack' scuttly many-legged wracks would make each of the three sub-armies feel more complete.

I know we are getting into wish-listing territory here but the could really go to town on models like those. Also beasts could be a great place to add all manner of new and wondrous things.

Andykp wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Andykp wrote:
Not played them myself but played against them, they really need a way to make the 3 armies in one work, each bit can’t be a fully fleshed out force. True born and what have you were always a lazy way to pad out the force,

There are no force organisation slots anymore, but some sort of Wych Cult 'heavy support' giant arena beast, and Haemonculus Coven 'fast attack' scuttly many-legged wracks would make each of the three sub-armies feel more complete.

I know we are getting into wish-listing territory here but the could really go to town on models like those. Also beasts could be a great place to add all manner of new and wondrous things.

Hell, they could just expand out some of the Court models; squads of Sslyth, packs of Ur-ghuls used as hunting hounds! A few more xenos mercenaries - maybe give us some loxatl models finally!

The original Eldar army list in Chapter Approved was for Pirates (Eldritch Raiders), and they had “Zoat Power Squads”. Just saying…