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Malys face looks like an anime elf, it looks like a different aesthetic design to previous eldar designs. It's also pretty expressionless, like they picked the T pose generic face option.

Not sure why GW moved away from the more extreme 'alien' gauntness and angled eyes they've been using for the eldar.

   
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Malys looks like they just left the default stock female face that comes bundled with their 3d software.

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Krieg! What a hole...

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 streetsamurai wrote:
 Shakalooloo wrote:
Malys' face just looks too human, not the typical elf-y features.


Was exactly thinking the same thing. It's a nice minis, but looks nothing like an elf


Looks a lot like Shadowheart from BG3 to me


Someone made a meme out of Malys featuring Shadowheart and yeah, they have very similar faces.

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Oh wow. Guess I need to take back all my worries about Dark Eldar because GW is bringing out the big guns and actually giving them new models.

All two of them.

In fairness, the Archon is nice at least. I guess after two editions of being too embarrassed to even put the current model on the front of the codex they decided to just remake the old version in plastic. So we're now about back where we were in 5th. Great.

Apparently it has actual wargear, too, so I await that joy with bated breath.

I note, however, that we still have the same godawful Haemonculus with 0 wargear options. Because we couldn't possibly flush two turds at once. Might have had to postpone Marine Lieutenant #5593730473.

The second model, which was apparently worth delaying the codex until the edition was all but over, is ""Lady Malys"". I put it in quotation marks because it looks like a half-arsed kitbash, albeit with none of the passion. I guess her sword is maybe slightly nicer than the regular Archon's sword, so she's got that going for her.

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I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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dark eldar fans still complaining about a lack of new models as though GW didn't completely revamp their entire model line just... holy crap, its really been 15 years!?

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5th edition, and then it's been 1 step plastic model, 2 steps units removed ever since. I do really like malys and the new archon though. And the new combat patrol is solid for me, coven is the part I have long neglected.

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 vipoid wrote:

The second model, which was apparently worth delaying the codex until the edition was all but over, is ""Lady Malys"". I put it in quotation marks because it looks like a half-arsed kitbash, albeit with none of the passion. I guess her sword is maybe slightly nicer than the regular Archon's sword, so she's got that going for her.


Lady Malys was finished like, three years ago. Someone ordered a battle sister set and the vendor sent that person a Lady Malys sprue instead by accident, and they posted pics of the sprue here (and yes, it was the same model as what's revealed now. Maybe there were some updates or changes but my memory hasn't noticed any, including one of the head options having the veil)

So Malys was probably not the reason for any codex delays. Not directly, at any rate.

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People really don't comprehend how far in advance of the release schedule the design studio and everything works. GW has designed way more kits than they've actually released.

(NOTE - "designing" does not mean put into production)

CoALabaer wrote:
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 vipoid wrote:
Oh wow. Guess I need to take back all my worries about Dark Eldar because GW is bringing out the big guns and actually giving them new models.

All two of them.

In fairness, the Archon is nice at least. I guess after two editions of being too embarrassed to even put the current model on the front of the codex they decided to just remake the old version in plastic. So we're now about back where we were in 5th. Great.

Apparently it has actual wargear, too, so I await that joy with bated breath.

I note, however, that we still have the same godawful Haemonculus with 0 wargear options. Because we couldn't possibly flush two turds at once. Might have had to postpone Marine Lieutenant #5593730473.

The second model, which was apparently worth delaying the codex until the edition was all but over, is ""Lady Malys"". I put it in quotation marks because it looks like a half-arsed kitbash, albeit with none of the passion. I guess her sword is maybe slightly nicer than the regular Archon's sword, so she's got that going for her.


If you're following current rumours, they're due an almost full revamp next edition.

Then I've no doubt we'll hear about how much better/cheaper the current kits are.
   
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Dudeface wrote:
If you're following current rumours, they're due an almost full revamp next edition.


I'll believe it when I see it and not a moment sooner.

Perhaps you've already forgotten, but it was previously rumoured that DE were going to be getting a huge revamp in *this* edition, hence why their codex was so late coming.

But sure. I guess they're always just one edition away from that revamp.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Votaan are now a larger force than Dark Eldar, going by the gw webstore.
   
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To be fair even Squats eventually got their huge range refresh after --- a while.


We know its very unlikely GW will drop any core faction from 40K wholesale. Most of the ones which have been dropped over the years after Squats were less wholesale drops and more a case of shifting them around.

Eg how Imperial Agents and Harlequins both splintered out and then merged back into core factions. Or how GW has broken Chaos demons into 4 subfactions and paired them up with the space marine counterparts for them.


Dark Eldar will get an update one day and honestly they are in a good spot for getting it; Tyranids, Necrons, Craftworld, Orks have all had big chunky updates. Tau aren't in a bad spot either and Squ... Votann just got a second wave. Genestealer Cults have had several waves and are in a solid position.

So Dark Eldar really are almost next-in-line on the Xenos front unless GW adds a new Xenos.

Granted there's still a LOT of subfactions of Marines and a larger Chaos force now. Considering Slaanesh lost their chariots and GW are clearly trying to full split their model lines between core games we could see Chaos dominate for a while; both with refreshes and new models.

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 vipoid wrote:
it was previously rumoured heavily speculated that DE were going to be getting a huge revamp in *this* edition


fixed that for you
   
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 Overread wrote:
To be fair even Squats eventually got their huge range refresh after --- a while.


We know its very unlikely GW will drop any core faction from 40K wholesale. Most of the ones which have been dropped over the years after Squats were less wholesale drops and more a case of shifting them around.

Eg how Imperial Agents and Harlequins both splintered out and then merged back into core factions. Or how GW has broken Chaos demons into 4 subfactions and paired them up with the space marine counterparts for them.


Dark Eldar will get an update one day and honestly they are in a good spot for getting it; Tyranids, Necrons, Craftworld, Orks have all had big chunky updates. Tau aren't in a bad spot either and Squ... Votann just got a second wave. Genestealer Cults have had several waves and are in a solid position.

So Dark Eldar really are almost next-in-line on the Xenos front unless GW adds a new Xenos.

Granted there's still a LOT of subfactions of Marines and a larger Chaos force now. Considering Slaanesh lost their chariots and GW are clearly trying to full split their model lines between core games we could see Chaos dominate for a while; both with refreshes and new models.


With both Corsairs and Exodites supposedly coming according to the more reliable rumour-mills, I'm curious to see what GW's plan is for supporting 6 factions of Space Elves at the same time.
   
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Probably the same as supporting 5 chaos marine books or 5ish marine books plus 2-3supplements?
   
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I honestly can't see GW doing TWO additional full subfactions of Eldar at the same time.

Exodites at least have the potential to be a dramatic visual difference from both Craftworld and Dark Eldar with their wild nature, more ancient style weapons and the beasts and reliance on knight classes and such.

Corsairs are often described as a general eldar grab-bag of units from different backgrounds. I'd honestly see them more like Harlequins - a good idea that can work as a subfaction with a handful of models; but not quite enough to stand on their own.



Who knows perhaps GW will make it work; there's no reason that they can't give each group their own strong visual identity so that they can carve out a niche. Technically Mechanicus, Imperial Guard and Space Marines are all the same faction and yet each one is very visually different. True one of those is Marines who have a load of subfactions where most of the difference is a few unique models and then alternative bling on the same models (with a lot of shared core models); but they are an exception. Most armies can't do what marines do.



Even so I can't see them doing it at the same time. Sure a 3-5 year gap between them sure, but at around the same time makes me think killsteam squads rather than actual armies. Unless its a combined force - the Exodites hiring Corsairs to help them travel and bring armies to war. However you can then run the risk of what happened ot the Tau - two very distinct visual designs and one dominates.

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No Idea on how they will approach it but the more smaller books are created the more fragmented 40k becomes. It's no longer feasible to collect other factions books. The only way I see it is split gaming from lore opening room to have bigger converged factions books.

   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
No Idea on how they will approach it but the more smaller books are created the more fragmented 40k becomes. It's no longer feasible to collect other factions books. The only way I see it is split gaming from lore opening room to have bigger converged factions books.


It hasn’t been feasible to collect all the books for a long time. Modern high quality, full color, hardback codexes are great if you just want one, especially if just getting into the hobby and it’s your first. But at $60 a pop for each? (Or whatever they are up to in your local currency) and every 3 years? No thanks.

I’ve got almost all the 3rd ed books. But they were soft back, only had some color, and not as HQ. But were like $10. Inflation would probably double that in today’s dollars, but it was low enough I could justify.

Edit for correction: full 3rd codexes were $15, it was the supplements like BA that were $10.

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The archon kit mirroring the autarch (ie, wargear, gendered torso options, multiple heads) is a good sign. Give me a Haemonculus with similar options and plastic grotesques and you might get me to play the damn game again


 
   
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I think you might be misremembering 3rd codices at $10. I have all the 2nd and as far as I recall they were £15 each, the reason I didn't get any after that is because they were basically the same price but small and crap. I might be wrong it was a long time ago but $10 seems like a significant underestimate.
   
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I have a vague memory of my 3rd ed DE codex being £10 or £12?

Edit: I don't trust my memory at all, for some context

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JWBS wrote:
I think you might be misremembering 3rd codices at $10. I have all the 2nd and as far as I recall they were £15 each, the reason I didn't get any after that is because they were basically the same price but small and crap. I might be wrong it was a long time ago but $10 seems like a significant underestimate.


3rd edition codices were thin stapled pamphlets, much smaller than 2nd's books.

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The way I see it I would rather pay £50 ish for a Lore etc of combined books like, All marines, All chaos etc and as for rules they could either make it downloadable or PDF only or even smaller thin black and white journals etc.

Edit: Its more practical for rules updates etc too.

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Just checked WDs from the era. At least the first codexes that dropped were $15 each, and supplements for BA/DA/etc were $10.

So my memory was partially wrong, I had the wrong thing stuck in my head. It was the sups, not the full at 10.

Still, like half of what we pay now considering inflation.

   
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I wish codicies were still paperback.

I remember attempting to haul a hardback rulebook, Space Marine Codex and Supplement.... I think those books weighed more than my army.

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 KidCthulhu wrote:
The archon kit mirroring the autarch (ie, wargear, gendered torso options, multiple heads) is a good sign. Give me a Haemonculus with similar options and plastic grotesques and you might get me to play the damn game again


I find it odd that you speak of it mirroring the Autarch when the Autarch has options for Wings, Jetbike etc., while the Archon has the option to stay on foot.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
The archon kit mirroring the autarch (ie, wargear, gendered torso options, multiple heads) is a good sign. Give me a Haemonculus with similar options and plastic grotesques and you might get me to play the damn game again


I find it odd that you speak of it mirroring the Autarch when the Autarch has options for Wings, Jetbike etc., while the Archon has the option to stay on foot.


Autarch Jetbike is off in legends these days, no kit.

And if you want wings you need a separate kit. Although they share rules with the jump pack, which you get in the multipart kit.

Is the new DE archon perfect? No. Is it better? Yes.

I’m not going to hold my breath hoping, but you may get a different kit with more movement options.

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 Nevelon wrote:
 vipoid wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
The archon kit mirroring the autarch (ie, wargear, gendered torso options, multiple heads) is a good sign. Give me a Haemonculus with similar options and plastic grotesques and you might get me to play the damn game again


I find it odd that you speak of it mirroring the Autarch when the Autarch has options for Wings, Jetbike etc., while the Archon has the option to stay on foot.


Autarch Jetbike is off in legends these days, no kit.

And if you want wings you need a separate kit. Although they share rules with the jump pack, which you get in the multipart kit.

Is the new DE archon perfect? No. Is it better? Yes.

I’m not going to hold my breath hoping, but you may get a different kit with more movement options.


Ah, but will it be a cheaper HQ choice than my Succubus?
Because atm all I need out of a character is for it to be as cheap as possible to carry the Power From Pain enhancement & be the warlord. Otherwise I don't need a character in own force at all.
   
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 vipoid wrote:
 KidCthulhu wrote:
The archon kit mirroring the autarch (ie, wargear, gendered torso options, multiple heads) is a good sign. Give me a Haemonculus with similar options and plastic grotesques and you might get me to play the damn game again
I find it odd that you speak of it mirroring the Autarch when the Autarch has options for Wings, Jetbike etc., while the Archon has the option to stay on foot.
I said the Archon sprue mirrors the Autarch sprue in having multiple heads, choice of gendered torso, and multiple wargear arms. I never said anything about having the equivalent options as the Autarch


 
   
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 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I have a vague memory of my 3rd ed DE codex being £10 or £12?

Edit: I don't trust my memory at all, for some context


£8 back in the day, with the Blood Angels and other supplements being £4, the price rise coming when they back-tracked on their 'minimal lore' mandate and started upping the page counts.
   
 
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