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 BorderCountess wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
To give Ultramarines a unique unit of their own to bring them more on par with the other first founding chapters who have multiple unique units and models plus all the basic sm stuff?

You mean, you think that the personification of the Codex Astartes should get snowflake units? Should the other five Codex-compliant chapters start getting all sorts of unique kits?

Yes. Same for the legions. Nemesis Claw was a good start, I want more.

Not sure those minimal changes justified a new model as it looks from a glance like just a Malibu Marneus with new hat situation even more than normally for GW. The victrix look pretty nice though.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
To give Ultramarines a unique unit of their own to bring them more on par with the other first founding chapters who have multiple unique units and models plus all the basic sm stuff?

You mean, you think that the personification of the Codex Astartes should get snowflake units? Should the other five Codex-compliant chapters start getting all sorts of unique kits?

I never thought about this before and went back to some older Space Marine codecies...

When they lay out the "Codex Compliant Force Org. Chart," I don't see "Honor Guard for Chapter Master."

Does this mean that the Ultramarines aren't Codex Astartes compliant after all?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Does this mean that the Ultramarines aren't Codex Astartes compliant after all?

Hypocrisy? In the Imperium?! Surely, you jest!

Honestly, it's just more Poster-Boy Syndrome.

Roboute has been revising the codex, chapters are allowed to go over 10 companies now. The ultramarines have essentially 11 and a half now, with an extra scout and honour guard company.

In 4th, they were introduced as a UM unit. The members were not part of a specific squad, but were brothers from different companies who had earned the high honors of serving. So it did not mater what companies were on Mcragge, there would be suitable marines present to fill the role.

In 5th, they went more generic, and in the marine org chart, they are included in chapter command.

How things are organized has changed over the years, especially as GW releases more models.

Edit:
The 1,000 marines has always be line strength, not total strength. If you add up all the command squads, specialists, etc, you end up with closer to 1,500+ marines.

Heck the ultramarines currently have 12 captains, 11 of full companies and Sicarius of the honour guard.

 kabaakaba wrote:
Is there any rumors about IG vehicles remodeling? I know we have "new" dorn and new sentinel, but we have all other like russ and chimera derivatives which looks a bit old may be

The current Russ and Chimera are fairly recent. The original plastic kits were much more difficult to build, although I liked the extra vehicle accessory sprue that came with them.

I don't think GW is in a hurry to redesign the current sprues.

 JB wrote:
The current Russ and Chimera are fairly recent.

The current Imperial Guard Leman Russ/Chimera are from 5th edition are they not? They came along side the plastic Valkyrie. So that would make them what... Around 2008/9ish off the top of my head? I wouldn't exactly call that recent.

It also makes me feel really quite old.

 Snrub wrote:

 JB wrote:
The current Russ and Chimera are fairly recent.

The current Imperial Guard Leman Russ/Chimera are from 5th edition are they not? They came along side the plastic Valkyrie. So that would make them what... Around 2008/9ish off the top of my head? I wouldn't exactly call that recent.

It also makes me feel really quite old.

Well they're not SPACE MARINE recent - Calgar is replaced after 7 years. But for Xenos recent they're practically babies...

 Snrub wrote:

 JB wrote:
The current Russ and Chimera are fairly recent.

The current Imperial Guard Leman Russ/Chimera are from 5th edition are they not? They came along side the plastic Valkyrie. So that would make them what... Around 2008/9ish off the top of my head? I wouldn't exactly call that recent.

It also makes me feel really quite old.

2007 for the Russ tank and likely for the Chimera as well so you are correct. They are not recent updates. This isn't the right thread to discuss which faction has older vehicle models, but they are among the oldest now. Nonetheless, I don't think GW has any reason to change them.

 RaptorusRex wrote:
8th was seven years ago

I'm just going to have to go and lie down for a while.

Maybe forever.




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 Snrub wrote:

 JB wrote:
The current Russ and Chimera are fairly recent.

The current Imperial Guard Leman Russ/Chimera are from 5th edition are they not? They came along side the plastic Valkyrie. So that would make them what... Around 2008/9ish off the top of my head? I wouldn't exactly call that recent.

It also makes me feel really quite old.

Lie down for a very, very long time.


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 Nevelon wrote:

Edit:
The 1,000 marines has always be line strength, not total strength. If you add up all the command squads, specialists, etc, you end up with closer to 1,500+ marines.

To say nothing of Rhino drivers.

I still say Rhino drivers (+Land Raider, Predator etc) are actually servitors, perhaps crippled marines turned into servitors, but that's just me.