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Tyel wrote:I think the issue with age is also whether the model is any good or not. Not really convinced a high definition version of the Leman Russ would meaningfully do anything.

The Falcon is ancient. But maybe it's bias, I still think it's a great model.

Arguably this is the issue for plastic DE. Sure the sculpts are from 15~ years ago, but most of them hold up well. I can't see "New Kabalites" being a dramatic improvement. Same for Wyches.

Which is why I wouldn't want replacements, I'd want new stuff.

The Falcon is so ancient that when it was first introduced, there was an article in WD that explained how they used pantography machines to cut molds from 3-ups, because doing models in CAD was like, another 10-15 years off at the time.

Arschbombe wrote:

MarkNorfolk wrote:
The Epic 40,000 era early version was a bit better, with an actual wave emitter between the bows.

The original FW Wave Serpent was a resin kit based around the plastic Falcon kit and included the bit between the prows.

The original original Wave Serpent is another article in WD explaining how you can make a serpent turret out of spare shuriken cannons and the bowl of a plastic spoon (and green stuff)

I'm awld, so what.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Does 30k have Chimeras in general?

Nope. The Legion Basilisk and Medusa had a Chimera chassis though.

The HH Solar Auxilia Basilisk/Medusa uses a Leman hull. The 40K Astra Militarum Basilisk, Manticore/Deathstrike, and Hydra/Wyvern all use the Chimera hull. I’m curious what the lore is for when and where the guns changed chassises.
I don’t think there has been a Chimera in the HH game. IIRC several are destroyed in the Lion El'Jonson Primarch book.

Smaug wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Does 30k have Chimeras in general?

Nope. The Legion Basilisk and Medusa had a Chimera chassis though.

The HH Solar Auxilia Basilisk/Medusa uses a Leman hull.

The Solar Auxiliary artillery tanks and the Legion equivalents are not the same. The Legion Basilisk uses what looks like an up-armoured chimera chassis as its base.
As for when the switch happened, some time after the Scouring. As for why? Economics, probably. The marines stopped using artillery, and the newly minted Imperial Guard was suddenly at the mercy of the Administratum rather than being an adjunct of the Crusade and thus suddenly had to deal with budgets.
Also worth noting that despite calling it the chimaera hull, the deep lore is that chimaeras are actually retrofitted basilisks, not the other way around. So some time after the Guard started using stripped down legion basilisks, someone discovered that you could take the big gun out, put in some seats, stick a turret on top and go zoom.

GW has long struggled with which hull the Bombard uses too, so it could reasonably be concluded that multiple artillery platforms use(d) both.

*SAD OLD GIT MODE*

AcTuAlLy I think you’ll find the Chimera began as an APC adaptation of the venerable Basilisk chassis, actually

Bombard originally had a Leman Russ style chassis.

I just want the chimerro, chimerax, and chimedon back. Make it happen, James!

Edit: Not News/Rumors

(Always read the topic before responding )

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
*SAD OLD GIT MODE*

AcTuAlLy I think you’ll find the Chimera began as an APC adaptation of the venerable Basilisk chassis, actually

Bombard originally had a Leman Russ style chassis.

Thanks for repeating the last few posts, I guess.