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He gets 3 separate statlines to pick when attacking, but melee warriors (with the same modeling options) get a one size fits all attack line.

Interesting that he’s got the move to keep up with the hormagaunts, despite being based on a 6” move model.

I like that we have a leader for units, but have mixed feeling on his rules. Will be interesting to see ponts.

Ack I see it too~

It almost looks like the glued the whip to the back of the hand instead of it the palm!

Looks like a palm and fingers in front of the whip handle. Should work better if that palm bit is colored to match the lash whip rather than the arm. Or a different color for the finger bits.

Nice model but urgh, another example of a weapon set that does something completely different when a different character is holding it, honestly one of the worst aspects of 10ths ruleset.

I like that his weapons are S9/5/7 really because he's synapse, so not bad at all. Plus they basically always have sustain hits too, as interestingly he give sustain no matter what, no need of a unit to lead to grant the bonus (don't remember seeing that often).

As far as melee goes, he blow the Winged version out of the water there. Probably a sneak peak of what's to come in 11th.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like a palm and fingers in front of the whip handle. Should work better if that palm bit is colored to match the lash whip rather than the arm. Or a different color for the finger bits.

Are they fingers though? To me it looks like its not held in a hand, but has some kind of joint assembly build around the "handle". They have given it some "hand" looking cues, but it might not be one.

 Flinty wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like a palm and fingers in front of the whip handle. Should work better if that palm bit is colored to match the lash whip rather than the arm. Or a different color for the finger bits.

Are they fingers though? To me it looks like its not held in a hand, but has some kind of joint assembly build around the "handle". They have given it some "hand" looking cues, but it might not be one.

To be fair, the lash whip on the normal warrior sprue is also hard to tell what is hand, and what is weapon.

 Flinty wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like a palm and fingers in front of the whip handle. Should work better if that palm bit is colored to match the lash whip rather than the arm. Or a different color for the finger bits.

Are they fingers though? To me it looks like its not held in a hand, but has some kind of joint assembly build around the "handle". They have given it some "hand" looking cues, but it might not be one.

No, you are right, but visually it is easy to describe in those terms.

 Skywave wrote:
Plus they basically always have sustain hits too, as interestingly he give sustain no matter what, no need of a unit to lead to grant the bonus (don't remember seeing that often).

I suspect this is a precursor of a design ethos that removes those silly limitations. I'm hoping when 11th drops they come out and say, "All those clauses about 'While this model is leading a unit...'? Delete those."

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Skywave wrote:
Plus they basically always have sustain hits too, as interestingly he give sustain no matter what, no need of a unit to lead to grant the bonus (don't remember seeing that often).

I suspect this is a precursor of a design ethos that removes those silly limitations. I'm hoping when 11th drops they come out and say, "All those clauses about 'While this model is leading a unit...'? Delete those."

Or just a FAQ something along the lines of “a leader, even if alone, is considered to be leading a unit consisting of themselves” that way they don’t need to do a line by line edit of every leader datasheet.

It would be a welcome change. Suddenly they loose half their abilities just because their bodyguard got shot off. Lone heroes without the single model protection rules have enough issues as it is.

 Flinty wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Looks like a palm and fingers in front of the whip handle. Should work better if that palm bit is colored to match the lash whip rather than the arm. Or a different color for the finger bits.

Are they fingers though? To me it looks like its not held in a hand, but has some kind of joint assembly build around the "handle". They have given it some "hand" looking cues, but it might not be one.

This. The hand is merged into the whip.

More annoying than the whip hand thing, I am puzzled by the listing of weapon profiles. They're not in alphabetical order, so please, why not list them in either ascending or descending njmbers of attacks, damage or something. It just looks so messy as is! Who 'organised' that? Yuck!

 Shakalooloo wrote:
More annoying than the whip hand thing, I am puzzled by the listing of weapon profiles. They're not in alphabetical order, so please, why not list them in either ascending or descending njmbers of attacks, damage or something. It just looks so messy as is! Who 'organised' that? Yuck!

Organizing by stat would be a bad idea given GWs penchant for changing #s.

ccs wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
More annoying than the whip hand thing, I am puzzled by the listing of weapon profiles. They're not in alphabetical order, so please, why not list them in either ascending or descending njmbers of attacks, damage or something. It just looks so messy as is! Who 'organised' that? Yuck!

Organizing by stat would be a bad idea given GWs penchant for changing #s.

Then they could arrange them alphabetically! As it is, they have no order at all!

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On the pre-orders, Badrukk and the Ammo Runts will in fact be metal!

"Son! I...AM gonna give YOU the whipping YOU deserve!"

Seriously, he's scary even for a Tyranid. Six of the best for any 'gaunt not waiting for the ****ing signal!

8 of the best, surely?

But looking at the stats, I’m not sure there are many situations where you’d take the Lash Whip attacks over the Scything Talons.

Sure, you drop two attacks. But S6 does a lot of heavy lifting compared to S4?

Not complaining, just observing.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
8 of the best, surely?

But looking at the stats, I’m not sure there are many situations where you’d take the Lash Whip attacks over the Scything Talons.

Sure, you drop two attacks. But S6 does a lot of heavy lifting compared to S4?

Not complaining, just observing.

It’s not like you need to choose which one to give him. If he only could take one per game, as an upgrade, yeah, the lash whip would never see the table. Unless you were really worried about gaunts and guardsmen. You are not just giving up 2 strength for those 2 attacks, but going from 2D to 1. Which is huge against so many targets.

I’m sure someone will mathhammer out what’s best for what target, but the whip is going to do well against only a sliver of them.

Nice to have it for when you need it, and there is bo cost, either opportunity or points. So when it comes up? Whip it. Whip it good.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
8 of the best, surely?

But looking at the stats, I’m not sure there are many situations where you’d take the Lash Whip attacks over the Scything Talons.

Sure, you drop two attacks. But S6 does a lot of heavy lifting compared to S4?

Not complaining, just observing.

Keep in mind that, as a Synapse creature, it gets +1 Strength.

Ah, did not know that. OK. Lash Whip does now make more sense against Tiddly Squish units.

Though one thing I did overlook? Where this has a nice, flexible suite of What To Hit People With, it’s a pretty solid unit leader. If leading Hormies, it can weigh in with chaff squishing, or add some real muscle against heavier stuff. If you’ve specialised some Combat Warriors for one type of target, he provides some cover against the other end.

I don’t want to say it’s perfect or owt? But I can see it definitely playing a useful role in most lists.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ah, did not know that. OK. Lash Whip does now make more sense against Tiddly Squish units.

Though one thing I did overlook? Where this has a nice, flexible suite of What To Hit People With, it’s a pretty solid unit leader. If leading Hormies, it can weigh in with chaff squishing, or add some real muscle against heavier stuff. If you’ve specialised some Combat Warriors for one type of target, he provides some cover against the other end.

I don’t want to say it’s perfect or owt? But I can see it definitely playing a useful role in most lists.

I think he’s the first leader that can attach to the little gribble squads, so a welcome addition there.

Melee warriors can’t specialize these days. All their weapons got homogenized into a 6 attacks, hits on 3+ S5 -2AP 1 Damage profile (with Twin Linked). Shooting warriors have one less attack and AP, and no TL. Adding sustained hits will help them chew through whatever they are fighting, and the better profiles on the prime will mean they spend less time tarpitted. But it’s not like you are putting the lash whip into a crushing claw squad to make sure you can fight clear of chaff and get back to nomming tanks.

Points are going to be important to see how worthwhile he is. (and price)

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
8 of the best, surely?

Are you actually suggesting that I'm no fun anymore?

No, just innumerate

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ewwcqh21/sunday-preview-ahoy-me-hearties-space-pirates-inbound/

Huge dump of previewed models. What’s still outstanding?

And so here I stand...reduced to a mere Gully Dwarf.

Oh! Whats is this? The new Vyper? Hand in pocket time again I see.

That was fast. Those unsold big boxes have been out for a week?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
That was fast. Those unsold big boxes have been out for a week?

And the Combat Patrols releasing alongside. Unless you just want one of the squads or characters, why would an Eldar Corsair player not just get the bundle?

And this is the announcement for a 2 week preorder, so a month after the preview boxes. Seems fair.

After this what, a specialist games week? HH just got a release, so the custodes box is likely a bit further out. AoS just got a bunch of army books. Eye of Terror is coming up, but likely won't be back to back with this wave.

2 previews tomorrow. Rumored guard stuff? Kill Team? Surprise Necromunda? Blood bowl team?

Price list

Do we know if this set of Combat Patrol boxes are a limited run?