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Looks nice and fighty!

Wonder if this will replace the nob model normally included in boyz squads, and instead we get 10 boyz plus these separate characters to attach and use as 'lieutenants'.

Might be a good thing in the long run, as no doubt boss nobs will end up dirt cheap from people breaking up starter sets & launch boxes. Better than having multiple warbosses...

Yeah, the article isn’t clear there.

Is Boss Nob a cut above regular Nobs? Or is to add distinction between Nobs that lead Mobs of Boyz, and Nobs that form their own units? Or, does this delineate a third type of Nob, which can be added to Mobs which might already have a unit leader Nob?

I think it’s the first one myself, and so unit leaders are the Boss Nobs.

I definitely think it's to distinguish between different types of Nob.
Boss Nobs are Nobs who boss around units
Then you have Mob Nobs who are Nobs in Mobs
And possibly additional Nob types as well

This would allow them to have different datasheets/stats/abilities/keywords for different types of Nob. So for example your unit leader has a mob-buffing ability that would be completely out of place in a unit of nobs, or stratagems that target specific Nob types

It's very important to always get the right kind of Nob

I bet right here and right now that the baby squiggly cutie is the best model in this new ed Box set.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I bet right here and right now that the baby squiggly cutie is the best model in this new ed Box set.

It’s hard to go up against a squig, but GW has a strong track record with awesome chaplain models. I have high hopes for the JP chappie.

Hastarii at $70 is a no go from me. Especially if it is 5 dudes.

Defiler would have been nice at $100, at $150 it would have been a maybe. At $175 its a feth no.

The Dorn battlegroup I expected $250 for the ubiquitous Redemptor, monopose Ballistarus, and 2 Executioners. Over $300 is another no go.

Finding myself priced out of 40k once again. Glad I have backlog to cover the rest of my life.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I bet right here and right now that the baby squiggly cutie is the best model in this new ed Box set.

That thing's going into the trashbin first when I get my hands on that Nob.

 skrulnik wrote:
Hastarii at $70 is a no go from me. Especially if it is 5 dudes.

Defiler would have been nice at $100, at $150 it would have been a maybe. At $175 its a feth no.

The Dorn battlegroup I expected $250 for the ubiquitous Redemptor, monopose Ballistarus, and 2 Executioners. Over $300 is another no go.

Finding myself priced out of 40k once again. Glad I have backlog to cover the rest of my life.

At this point, Battletech and Gundam are better choices for the price points compared to updated Firsrborns(different types of games, though).

I found a box of Fellgors and an Orgor team collecting dust in a comic book store, and I'm playing Darkwater. I guess after those projects(and Darkwater's expansions) that's pretty much all I'll spend on GW at this point.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yeah, the article isn’t clear there.

Is Boss Nob a cut above regular Nobs?

Boss Nob has been the name for the unit leader for ages and ages.

You can go back all the way to the original Dawn of War and it will let you upgrade your Slugga Boyz with a Boss Nob.

His back banna'z too small for a proppa big boss, so he must just be a mob nob.

WHFB had a "big boss" rank of low-ranking HQ in between the warboss commanders and the unit leaders simply called boss.

40k has never really had this to my knowledge, at least not for an awfully long time. The closest you get is the "nob leader" who occasionally appears leading nobz mobs, such as in Dawn of War II, but that's no standard member of the crew.

 Ashiraya wrote:
WHFB had a "big boss" rank of low-ranking HQ in between the warboss commanders and the unit leaders simply called boss.

40k has never really had this to my knowledge, at least not for an awfully long time. The closest you get is the "nob leader" who occasionally appears leading nobz mobs, such as in Dawn of War II, but that's no standard member of the crew.

2nd edition had the 'standardised' character progression for champions, heroes and mighty heroes in every faction, and I think Big Boss was the middle tier for Orks.

 parakuribo wrote:

 skrulnik wrote:
Hastarii at $70 is a no go from me. Especially if it is 5 dudes.

Defiler would have been nice at $100, at $150 it would have been a maybe. At $175 its a feth no.

The Dorn battlegroup I expected $250 for the ubiquitous Redemptor, monopose Ballistarus, and 2 Executioners. Over $300 is another no go.

Finding myself priced out of 40k once again. Glad I have backlog to cover the rest of my life.

At this point, Battletech and Gundam are better choices for the price points compared to updated Firsrborns(different types of games, though).

Battletech has always been the better choice from a price point comparison. It always will be.

Looks good, but it's another step towards the new all brutal, all the time, no fun allowed ork design.

There is room for distinction between Nobs.

Boss Nobs = Head of Mobs. The ‘ardest lad in the group and so the boss.

Nobs = groups of like minded ‘ard nuts. Possibly long serving veterans of Mobs long since perished, grouping together with the best gear left over to boot.

Big Nobs = The Warboss’ more or less trusted cronies. These are above the other Nobs, and charged with enforcing the Warboss’ will when he’s off krumpin’ gits elsewhere. These are typically (and not just invented by me!) the Warboss’ best buddies, those who have been with him his entire life. Ideally they should ded big, ded tuff, and have little to no actual ambition beyond thumping things and drinking.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
I bet right here and right now that the baby squiggly cutie is the best model in this new ed Box set.

That thing's going into the trashbin first when I get my hands on that Nob.

You know what that means right?

Every time you will play with that model you will lose it on first turn.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Looks good, but it's another step towards the new all brutal, all the time, no fun allowed ork design.

Baby squigs are always fun.

His teef are too small, but that's the case for all post-8th edition orks.
Like the squig, but probably not enough to get him just for that, especially when I have Grukk on the painting table with a proper head, a proper squig, the same gun and a proper Klaw instead of just a choppa .

Agreed, they just can’t seem to get the teeth right on the newer Orks.

Also, no power klaw or even a big choppa?

Not on that one anyway.

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Agreed, they just can’t seem to get the teeth right on the newer Orks.

Also, no power klaw or even a big choppa?

You'll have to wait for the standalone release that isn't ETB and monopose. Hopefully.

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Agreed, they just can’t seem to get the teeth right on the newer Orks.

Also, no power klaw or even a big choppa?

While they have never been meta gameplay wise, Nobz using regular choppas is perfectly common in the lore.

Remember Assault on Black Reach?

They do sometimes include options in the starters. The Assault Intercessors for example still had a plasma pistol.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Agreed, they just can’t seem to get the teeth right on the newer Orks.

Also, no power klaw or even a big choppa?

While they have never been meta gameplay wise, Nobz using regular choppas is perfectly common in the lore.

Remember Assault on Black Reach?

Also, in a game with points costs for equipment it was quite sensible to have a full on shooty Boss with just a choppa for joining Flash Gitz'n stuff. I know I converted one to lead my shoota boyz.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Agreed, they just can’t seem to get the teeth right on the newer Orks.

Also, no power klaw or even a big choppa?

While they have never been meta gameplay wise, Nobz using regular choppas is perfectly common in the lore.

Remember Assault on Black Reach?

Probably just hopium from me, but the Nob has a similar style to the new Warboss (vest covering up the joint for different arm options), so an ETB starter set Nob could still have some options.

If the ETB Orks do have some variety, I would be easily convinced to pick up a few copies of the inevitable starter sets.

So right now there are essentially 3 configs for the Boss Nob:

- Big Choppa/Slugga
- Power Klaw/Slugga
- Kombi-Weapon/CCW

The current monopose kit only supports the first two, so this guy is just a model to represent the third option. I do suspect it will change to a Choppa since Boyz no longer have need for a CCW.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Every time you will play with that model you will lose it on first turn.

You shouldn't play with your Nob, you might go blind.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Also, in a game with points costs for equipment it was quite sensible to have a full on shooty Boss with just a choppa for joining Flash Gitz'n stuff. I know I converted one to lead my shoota boyz.

Yeah. I have a LOT of beef with Power Level (in points' clothing) becoming the de facto means of 40k armybuilding these days, but this is one of the reasons. Weapons like heavy bolters, chainswords and their many equivalents across the factions were rarely the "meta" choice, but at least they used to have the decency of being cheaper!

I really hope next edition brings back points, but I have a grim feeling that "powerlevels" are here to stay. Someone at GW has been pushing for it for ages and seems to have won the battle.

On the one front yes it makes army building easier; but on the other it saps a huge chunk of flavour. Plus yeah some weapons are just outright better on paper so why not take them if they " cost" the same.