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Finished assembling my second squadron of Predator tanks. Sadly, managed to snap one of the twin Lascannons when cleaning up.

However, that’s only my third casualty, with the first two being quad Lascannons for Spartans, and those were largely my own fault, as I didn’t think out clipping order properly.

But once they’re painted? I’m back to being 100% painted and based. Which is nice.

Has anyone tried out using Palisade drop pods, or Deathstorm drop pods. How did they get on?

So finally made a start on what will be my LI Blood Angels (that I hope to have ready for Bac-Con!) this week. Kind of kept putting it off, partly as I had titans to finish but partly because I'm weirdly worried about getting the painting right - planning to follow the Battle Bunnies guide so it shouldn't be that difficult really. Couldn't help having a little build of (almost) everything, so half the sprues of each tank type rather than get any one thing done... few thoughts as a result though!

Firstly, for anyone else who likes to magnetise their tank turrets etc and has found the 6mm size on the Sicarans a little big (you get quite an aggressive snap with them!), I came up with an alternative that works nicely (the one advantage of getting thinking time whilst you build other stuff!). You can get a 5mm magnet into the deeper recess on the turret ring. You can also put a magnet inside the hull and even with the gap it holds on to the turret nicely (with both 5mm magnets!). Should hopefully be clear enough from the attached photo? (the top Sicaran is the standard 6mm magnets, the one underneath the two 5mm magnets). I already built the first 4 (two of each kit) with 6mm magnets annoyingly, but what I'm going to do now is mix the turrets with the recessed 5mm magnet with the hulls that have 6mm magnets and mix the 6mm turrets with the internal magnet hulls, which should work fine most of the time in terms of turret/hull combinations I think.

Also, minor aside, being one of those people who followed the instructions for the first Sicaran and then didn't bother for the rest - only realised too late that the autocannon/plasma turrets have different sensor pieces on the front of the turrets. So warning for anyone else not to get caught out! Mine now will have a mix of sensor pieces with the different weapons, doh! Not possible to make the same mistake with the Arcus/Punisher kit at least!

I do find it slightly odd how inconsistent the kit design is for LI (bit like the rules I suppose) - Sicarans are clearly designed with room for a magnet (albeit too big really), the predators instead have a deep socket (same as the SA Leman Russes) which clearly is there to supersede the need for magnets and then the Kratos don't give consideration to each approach at all! I've magnetised all three chassis still, so it's not really an issue but I just find it odd that they can't seem to take a consistent approach to these kinds of design things. In comparison all of the Flames of War / Team Yankee tank kits use the same 5mm recess which fits magnets or a plastic turret pin which all the kits come with, which is really handy and a good design.


I know it's old news, but building up some of the fast attack kits made me look again at their rules, really don't understand why you can take the plasma Proteus speeders as a whole unit, but you can only the melta ones as up to 50% of a unit? So you can field the plasma Proteus' from one box as a unit of just two, but can't also do that with the melta Proteus, so the options are either those half sit in the box or you field a unit of 4 with a weirdly mixed loadout. Feels like a disincentive to use them and, for me at least, puts me off buying a second box of fast attack as it feels like I'm going to have a bunch of proteus speeders that I don't use and end up wasting.

In general I also just find it odd that of all the weapon options the speeders come with in big 30k they went with flamers as the fixed weapon on the Javelin in particular and as half of the Proteus' too. Finally, I don't really get why the missiles on the Javelins are an extra 2 points (when plenty of weapon options, even with obviously better choices, have no cost) - not sure whether they were supposed to have the 'krak' AT profile as well or I'm just missing the value of the missiles over the lascannon option? (and yes, I built mine with missiles anyway because they look cooler - IMO!).

It's been more or less a year since the release of Legions Imperialis.

Any more thoughts?

More of the same, still having a lot of fun. We've been busy running a campaign using our own tried and tested rules albeit with a few tweaks.
Traitor side making some ground but the 2 IF players are playing true to the lore and being very difficult to shift.

Without writing an essay, I'd say that LI is in a good place now. Two things should be the priority going forward...

1) More support formations! Seriously, these provide LI with a lot of flexibility in list building.
2) Custodes and Daemons would seal the deal.
3) Its time for a new Titan...

SamusDrake wrote:

3) Its time for a bunch of new Titans...

I fixed it for you.

In agreement with the above. This game is very much still gwtting its legs but im increasingly excited for it.

I'd really like to see them do a proper Chaos Corrupted force. It opens the door for new Chaos Titans; Chaos forces that look unique and Demons as well (both as allies and heck perhaps as their own army).

It also helps create a new visual style outside of just more Imperial centric models.


Sure there's still the Mechanicum; Custodes; Sisters of Silence and a few others to flesh out - however this isn't the 28mm where GW can go nuts with different Marine Chapter models. At some point they have to reach outside of that niche.


We have seen some advances, Mechanicum are coming with Dark Mechanicum and unique models for that too.

I guess it depends what your criteria are. Model-wise its in a pretty good place, not just a ton of plastics but actually a pretty good mix of units for all of the factions now - including a third proper faction with the Mechanicum!

Rules-wise however, it remains a pretty mixed bag. YMMV, but having been out of GW-based wargaming for a long time till getting dragged back into AT and LI by my cousin, the - ah - 'quality' of what you get relative to what you pay in terms of the rulebook and expansions is tough to swallow. I mean it's fine and if you just want to put loads of models on the table, roll handfuls of dice and then scoop handfuls of models off the table then it works at the end of the day but the ROI for that feels a bit off, to me anyway. Generally these things are subjective and fair enough others may not like them but there are a number of (IMO) better and (objectively) cheaper rulesets which I'd quite happily use the very nice LI models with, if I could convince my gaming compadres to be a bit more willing to look beyond the GW iron curtain. Really it is just hard, for me, not to be frustrated by the sheer volume of the issues with the rules/army lists (and the sheer obviousness of many of them) and GW's apparent disinterest to in anyway trying to maintain a halfway coherent game system.

Short version, models are great. Rules desperately, desperately need a long-overdue FAQ/Errata - in the perhaps vain hope that might address most or at least some of the obvious game design and list building issues.

@Piousservant: if the GW curtain is unscalable for them, try older editions of Epic that are actually well designed

Same models work fine, more armies, decades of list balancing, rules free on the web and more. Join the club, we're having great time over on this side with E:A and E40k, some with even SM 2nd.

What Sherrypie posted, agreed.

But anyways, after a few more games during the past weeks, the addition of Mech really has brought fresh air, new aesthetics, and for me most importantly more variety and tactics on the table.