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While I really like the way they went with Shapers I was kinda hoping that Kroot Carnivore squads would get a squad sergeant again.

 cuda1179 wrote:
While I really like the way they went with Shapers I was kinda hoping that Kroot Carnivore squads would get a squad sergeant again.

There's option to get the guy with the hound pup and more 'Farstalker' level of leathers, and perhaps another with a raised sword and some extra armour, so there might be some level of "Kindred shaper".

The builds that they've shown off in the new Kroot set just don't have any Tau tech with them - I almost wonder if that could end up being an alternative to the netguns. Pulse carbine and markerlight to let them join in with the observer mechanic the others get perhaps, but what we're being shown is the models set up for the pure Kroot kindred force so they've left those options off.

Do Forgeworld still sell the Great Knarloc? THAT would be a great kit for plastic.

Might be time to drag out my old Savage human auxiliaries and get them back into action...


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Has there been any word on Kroot Mutations, again?

FW doesn't exist any more; its all rolled into the main GW site. That said the Great Knarloc hasn't been sold for utterly ages now

 Stormonu wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
However, Kroot are also an advanced, space-faring race in their own right despite the appearance, so that does go some way to explaining how they kept more of their cultural trappings.

That was explained in the background twenty years ago. Eating some Orks (Mekboyz) made them able to build cities and spacecraft. Then another Ork invasion hit them hard and their only successful resistance was the old guerilla tactic, until the Tau saved them. They abandoned their cities (though kept the surviving spacecraft) to live like in the old days in the woods.

Was this in a novel or campaign book? I can't find any details like this in the old Army books, other than Pech was their homeworld and they used Warspheres for their mercenary gigs.

It was the Index Xenos article in WD. #264 in UK, maybe different in US.

I wish I could have picked up a Great Knarlock. I was too poor back in the day. The best I got was winning a Lizard man miniature (looked like a Lizardman riding a giant Cold-One) as a door prize, and then swapping out a spare Kroot torso and head I had.

The Great Knarlock was a superb miniature.

I would hope they replace it with something similar in the current-day effort.

Kroot Lone Spears

Lone-spears ride strange chameleonic creatures called Kalamandras, whose ability to alter their skin colour and move through tough terrain unhindered makes them the perfect mount for expert hunters. Their speed and strength let them keep up with packs of Kroot Hounds, guiding them to fight more effectively and capture far-flung objectives.

They wield explosive-tipped javelins, whose charges can blast apart armoured troops. They’re a convenient weapon to hurl while riding at speed, and a lucky hit on a tank can do significant damage.

Others opt for the Kroot long gun, a pinpoint accurate rifle that fires heavy rounds over extreme ranges. Experienced Lone-spears can even pick individual soldiers out of crowded fortifications, striking down medics and weapon teams to remove daunting obstacles from the path of the kinband.

Yes sir I like it!

I love that there are two heads/poses. It really does make a huge difference

god, this new kroot range is so cool. it's way more than i would've expected for kroot getting a refresh. it feels like they're halfway to being their own army at this point (although i think it's definitely for the best that they'll be remaining with tau because that way, the half of the army they have won't feel neglected like votann or WE. it's where something like this should be)

New Kroot riding a Newt-Kroot. Well, if it is a Kroot relative at all.

Do not like fleshy lizard horse. Doesn't scream something I'd want to ride into battle tbh and honestly is very confusing in terms of texture/anatomy imo. Not enough of any flavour of creature - yes, its a fictional alien beastie, but it looks like a poor knock off of the merwrym/basilisk.

I am really liking that new mount, especially the third image with the brown mount.

Most of the new Kroot models are really impressing me.

The head and tail on the Kalamandras remind me of a Mexican Walking Fish or Axolotl.

Kroot range refresh is looking very good. Thinking if they're only designed as allies or over time could become something more. Makes me wonder if they'll ever do Eldar Exodites and what they would look like too.

Another beauty. Loving all the new Kroot minis so far.

Dudeface wrote:
Do not like fleshy lizard horse. Doesn't scream something I'd want to ride into battle tbh and honestly is very confusing in terms of texture/anatomy imo. Not enough of any flavour of creature - yes, its a fictional alien beastie, but it looks like a poor knock off of the merwrym/basilisk.

i disagree with your point about anatomy, but now that you bring it up, it definitely feels like something out of AOS. i could see an ork or chaos guy riding this into battle

I like it! The biggest quasi-hidden benefit is that the spear throwing version is relatively easily converted to a fantasy style model.

Interesting how they have clearly taken inspiration from the old Kroot trackers unit, but switched the lore to a loner on a chameleon rather than a squad riding gnarlocs.

I think it looks good but would prefer a more Kroot-y mount.

There's something about the head that looks off. The flesh teeth on the upper jaw perhaps?

Massive fan of that, really excellent. Proving a little difficult to not try and make a Kroot army.

Just noticed the Atlatl on the boom stick. Very nice touch!

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Do not like fleshy lizard horse. Doesn't scream something I'd want to ride into battle tbh and honestly is very confusing in terms of texture/anatomy imo. Not enough of any flavour of creature - yes, its a fictional alien beastie, but it looks like a poor knock off of the merwrym/basilisk.

i disagree with your point about anatomy, but now that you bring it up, it definitely feels like something out of AOS. i could see an ork or chaos guy riding this into battle

I don't know, it looks like it'll struggle to climb with no grabbing surface on the claws and no digits, maybe be OK at swimming but it'll have to reply on the heavy tail. In terms of land locomotion the rear legs being that much longer will put a lot of stress down it's spine, hence the shoe horn shape. whilst the front limbs will have to shuffle along at an almost comical pace to keep up without throwing off the rider.

I'm not any form of zoologist or biologist, but it just looks wildly impractical to me. I do agree it looks like something from the idoneth range though.

I see at least 2 rumor engines solved, maybe a third?

Three by my count.

Bang stick tip, stab stick tip, and the tail.

Should have made knarloc cavalry.

Salamandra + Kroot = Kalamandra

Lots of nice touches and weird things packed into one mini. I like it.

Dudeface wrote:


I don't know, it looks like it'll struggle to climb with no grabbing surface on the claws and no digits, maybe be OK at swimming but it'll have to reply on the heavy tail. In terms of land locomotion the rear legs being that much longer will put a lot of stress down it's spine, hence the shoe horn shape. whilst the front limbs will have to shuffle along at an almost comical pace to keep up without throwing off the rider.

I'm not any form of zoologist or biologist, but it just looks wildly impractical to me. I do agree it looks like something from the idoneth range though.

Those front legs aren't shorter than the back, they might even be longer- this thing is just in a crouch. The upper part of its forelimbs are almost horizontal, and they're skewed out for a wide stance too; if it rotated its upper arm 90 degrees and put it's feet directly under its shoulders it would be at least as tall in front as behind. The pose to me looks like it was tracking, nose to the ground and then it heard a noise, so it lifted its head without lifting the body.

As for the claws, I think that's kinda legit. I mean, it can curl its knuckles, so there's some grip, but it could be stronger. Overall though, I really like it. The "Lone" in its name suggest to me that while it can keep up with hounds, it's probably meant to be used as a lone operative. I hope there are two builds, because if it is a lone operative I might want two.

GW wrote:Lone-spears ride strange chameleonic creatures called Kalamandras, whose ability to alter their skin colour and move through tough terrain unhindered makes them the perfect mount for expert hunters.

I doubt that. But if the Kroot makes vroom vroom noises, it's going to look like he's riding an invisible motorcycle. That's bound to cause some confusion among the ranks of the enemy.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
New Kroot riding a Newt-Kroot. Well, if it is a Kroot relative at all.

My takeaway is that it's not a species of Kroot and that it's so on purpose. The rider is supposed to be antisocial. To me it makes more sense if he steers clear of all his relatives, not just the chatty ones.

PenitentJake wrote:

Dudeface wrote:


I don't know, it looks like it'll struggle to climb with no grabbing surface on the claws and no digits, maybe be OK at swimming but it'll have to reply on the heavy tail. In terms of land locomotion the rear legs being that much longer will put a lot of stress down it's spine, hence the shoe horn shape. whilst the front limbs will have to shuffle along at an almost comical pace to keep up without throwing off the rider.

I'm not any form of zoologist or biologist, but it just looks wildly impractical to me. I do agree it looks like something from the idoneth range though.

Those front legs aren't shorter than the back, they might even be longer- this thing is just in a crouch. The upper part of its forelimbs are almost horizontal, and they're skewed out for a wide stance too; if it rotated its upper arm 90 degrees and put it's feet directly under its shoulders it would be at least as tall in front as behind. The pose to me looks like it was tracking, nose to the ground and then it heard a noise, so it lifted its head without lifting the body.

As for the claws, I think that's kinda legit. I mean, it can curl its knuckles, so there's some grip, but it could be stronger. Overall though, I really like it. The "Lone" in its name suggest to me that while it can keep up with hounds, it's probably meant to be used as a lone operative. I hope there are two builds, because if it is a lone operative I might want two.

Unsure those pics seem to very clearly show the limbs in line and the front ones as shorter, hence the curved back. Either way it doesn't ding my dong but I'm glad it does for others, I just live in camp "would rather it was a knarloc"