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 Flinty wrote:
 Just Tony wrote:


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Just because people use the word "orientate" doesn't mean it's an actual word.

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I am pretty sure that is in fact how language works


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By your logic that's now a word.

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 Flinty wrote:
 Just Tony wrote:


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Just because people use the word "orientate" doesn't mean it's an actual word.

"


I am pretty sure that is in fact how language works


Yep, language evolution in action. I’m a bit of a pedant when it comes to words and grammar, I know that the correct word is “orient”, but even I find myself using orientate quite often, because it flows better and fits with the pattern of other, similar words (annotate/annotation, vacate, placate, etc.). And of all the crimes against language that have been brought up in this thread, it’s definitely one of the lesser ones!

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Not the word, but a dictionary accepted pronounciation.

Drawring. As opposed to drawing.

Just stop it. Your superfluous are is superfluous.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not the word, but a dictionary accepted pronounciation.

Drawring. As opposed to drawing.

Just stop it. Your superfluous are is superfluous.

Now we are goin' after accents? Next you'll be tellin' me I'm supposed to pronounce the 'g' on the end! Drawrin'.

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 Just Tony wrote:
 Flinty wrote:
 Just Tony wrote:


[Snipped]

Just because people use the word "orientate" doesn't mean it's an actual word.

"


I am pretty sure that is in fact how language works


Bumbledeeflorp.



By your logic that's now a word.

Yes, but one that will probably die with the thread.

All words come from somewhere, and become the norm with enough use. The chief word for our canine friends in English was hound (cognate with hund etc in other Germanic languages). The origin of dog (docga) just randomly appears in late old English, and gradually supplants hound through middle English until it becomes the dominant word in modern English. It has no parallels in other languages at the time. Someone just made it up, and thats now what we call a dog.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not the word, but a dictionary accepted pronounciation.

Drawring. As opposed to drawing.

Just stop it. Your superfluous are is superfluous.


All word-ending 'r's are superfluous in New England.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not the word, but a dictionary accepted pronounciation.

Drawring. As opposed to drawing.

Just stop it. Your superfluous are is superfluous.


My experience watching european broadcasts of sporting events would strong suggest that the people saying that also say things like "honder" instead of Honda, or Purr-geo for Puegeot (this one I'll grant cuz I haven't heard enough french folk saying it)
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
or Purr-geo for Peugeot
How would you pronounce it? As a Brit (living in a city where they made a lot of these vehicles), we tend to pronounce it roughly 'Pur-show', as the French owners might.

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All I remember is that the lion goes from strength to strength, from an advert, in the 1980s, on my Star Wars recorded from telly tape… why has my brain not reallocated that storage lacuna to something more useful????

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 Flinty wrote:
All I remember is that the lion goes from strength to strength, from an advert, in the 1980s, on my Star Wars recorded from telly tape… why has my brain not reallocated that storage lacuna to something more useful????


Because re-record, not fade away, re-record, not fade away.

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 Flinty wrote:
All I remember is that the lion goes from strength to strength, from an advert, in the 1980s, on my Star Wars recorded from telly tape… why has my brain not reallocated that storage lacuna to something more useful????


Drink more absinthe?

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 Skinnereal wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
or Purr-geo for Peugeot
How would you pronounce it? As a Brit (living in a city where they made a lot of these vehicles), we tend to pronounce it roughly 'Pur-show', as the French owners might.


As an American, I would think it comes out something closer to "poo-Joe" or "poo-geo" ?? But, as I said, I can't recall hearing too many native French speakers saying it, it just sounds odd to my american ears to hear Brit commentators adding R's and whatnot into seemingly random words.
   
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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

As an American, I would think it comes out something closer to "poo-Joe" or "poo-geo" ?? But, as I said, I can't recall hearing too many native French speakers saying it, it just sounds odd to my american ears to hear Brit commentators adding R's and whatnot into seemingly random words.

Yeah, nah... that's not a British addition. The 'eu' there in French makes an 'ear' sound like in 'pearl'.

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But only the 'ea' part of the pearl sound. Not the 'r'. There's no 'r' in the French pronunciation of peugeot.
   
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The nice French man I just listened to on YouTube disagrees...

 
   
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And my French teacher and a bunch of Frenchmen I know from work disagree with him.
   
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Because re-record, not fade away, re-record, not fade away.


Why am i not surprised its you of all people who brings up that advert for "Scotch" tapes (its a cool ad though).

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.facebook.com/peugeotme/videos/how-to-pronounce-peugeot/4917256431622346/&ved=2ahUKEwjo8eWno9OGAxUUV0EAHWEqDKcQwqsBegQIPBAF&usg=AOvVaw2uKIB3eaMMwlHlOncgpqKN

That is a link to Peugeot's on post on Facebook on the matter.

Puh-jo. Now, there isn't an 'r' in the strict sense, but puh and pur are said basically the same to most UK people because most of the country doesn't use a rhotic 'r' and therefore basically glosses over it in many circumstances. Some areas do (mainly Scotland) so they wouldn't pronounce it like the word contained an 'r'. North America also predominantly speaks rhotic English.

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“It was a good craic”.

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Seems like the Irish stole it from Scotland/ northern England, Gaelicized it, and the. Scottish Gaelic nicked it back again. So I think it’s pretty fair game anywhere in the UK.

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 Flinty wrote:
Seems like the Irish stole it from Scotland/ northern England, Gaelicized it, and the. Scottish Gaelic nicked it back again. So I think it’s pretty fair game anywhere in the UK.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craic

If it’s good enough for Burns, it’s good enough for me.


Yet I only ever hear it uttered in Oirish Themed Pubs. Usually by braying chinless idiots. Who are most definitely unaware of the word’s origins.


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 IronRose wrote:
two terms from the zoomer lexicon Gyatt and mewing turns my spine into a pretzel from cringe.


I don’t think I’ve heard either.

Though I also cringe when someone has made their fondness for anime their entire personality.

I mean, anime is fine. Whilst I can’t get on with it, I can see the appeal and of course have no issues at all with folks who adore it.

Watch it all day every day? Still no problem.

But when it becomes your entire life, from speech to style to interactions with other people? Maybe get out a bit more.

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