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Ouchy prices on the spells and terrain

Path to Glory is coming too? Nice

Weird source on this one, but apparently Valrak has just mentioned that Malineth will be getting a black library special ed model.

It's about time!

Wouldn't surprise me if it comes out the same time as the special ed novel. Assuming he's right.

And the first balance update is here:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/yywutgi3/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-unfurling-the-first-battlescroll-of-the-new-edition/

A few interesting adjustments.

*Also apparently a new model reveal on Friday.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Weird source on this one, but apparently Valrak has just mentioned that Malineth will be getting a black library special ed model.

Malineth? Maleneth?

Someone called Maleneth Witchblade will most likely not generate a copypaste generic dark elf asassin model, right?

 Fayric wrote:
Someone called Maleneth Witchblade will most likely not generate a copypaste generic dark elf asassin model, right?

She was Gotrek's companion for both audiodramas and his first 3 AOS books. She's a former Assassin for the Order of Azyr and is soon getting her own solo novel.

Orruk Battletome previews are out. It’s grim for the Kruleboyz with two major nerfs.

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
Orruk Battletome previews are out. It’s grim for the Kruleboyz with two major nerfs.

please share what you know...

 usernamesareannoying wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
Orruk Battletome previews are out. It’s grim for the Kruleboyz with two major nerfs.

please share what you know...

Ironjaws seem pretty much identical to their Index, with the addition of Faction Terrain and Manifestations.

Kruleboyz had changes to Dirty Tricks and the Damage buff from the Sludgeraker.

Sneaky Sneaking is now a Hero phase Dirty trick, so it competes with Venom Encrusted Weapons. It used to be Any Movement phase, so you could pull units out of harms way at the end of the enemy's move or put units into the enemy's backfield after he had moved. So this is a big hit to what was a key Dirty Trick.

The Sludgeraker used to grant Damage 2 to melee weapons that did Crits (Gutrippaz, Monstakillers) on a 2+, which provided a huge spike in damage. This featured in many competitive lists. It now gives a unit the ability to grant an effect that does 2 or 3 MWs and have a Wound roll debuff. Its a big nerf!

The faction terrain, though, does give a way to add to your Dirty Tricks roll, so that is something. Can make it so that the worst you need to roll is a 4+.

Bubbatron wrote:
So today my Warhammer Heroes Age of Sigmar box arrived (bought the box of 8)

I had pre ordered this before seeing the article about not all being in every box unlike previous runs

This was a sealed box, no cellophane around it though like the others but can confirm you don't receive all 8 as per the article

The box I had was only missing the blacked out Knight-Arcanum

I got duplicates of the Liberator Prime and the Vindictor-Prime

So not bad really, I'm sure there's somewhere people in the know can go to get the missing model if you're that way inclined....

Mine arrived today, happy to say it had the complete set in it. Just got a double of the Liberator.

TangoTwoBravo wrote:

 usernamesareannoying wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
Orruk Battletome previews are out. It’s grim for the Kruleboyz with two major nerfs.

please share what you know...

Ironjaws seem pretty much identical to their Index, with the addition of Faction Terrain and Manifestations.

Kruleboyz had changes to Dirty Tricks and the Damage buff from the Sludgeraker.

Sneaky Sneaking is now a Hero phase Dirty trick, so it competes with Venom Encrusted Weapons. It used to be Any Movement phase, so you could pull units out of harms way at the end of the enemy's move or put units into the enemy's backfield after he had moved. So this is a big hit to what was a key Dirty Trick.

The Sludgeraker used to grant Damage 2 to melee weapons that did Crits (Gutrippaz, Monstakillers) on a 2+, which provided a huge spike in damage. This featured in many competitive lists. It now gives a unit the ability to grant an effect that does 2 or 3 MWs and have a Wound roll debuff. Its a big nerf!

The faction terrain, though, does give a way to add to your Dirty Tricks roll, so that is something. Can make it so that the worst you need to roll is a 4+.

thanks tango

The Luminark of Hysh/Celestial Hurricanum makes a comeback. I wonder what's been updated?

This kit has been slightly updated to fit better in Warhammer Age of Sigmar.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/4enniuzu/sunday-preview-the-empire-of-man-and-ironhead-squat-prospectors-prepare-for-battle/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WH_22nd_December_Preview_&utm_content=&utm_term=

I wondered about that myself. I wonder if it had some Karl Franz junk on it somewhere? Also, have they built it differently? I seem to remember the Hurricanum having more rings and being a pain in the ass to paint.

They might have just scratched off some Old World references and added some more stars/sigmar hammers or something?

 Ohman wrote:
The Luminark of Hysh/Celestial Hurricanum makes a comeback. I wonder what's been updated?

Its very minor changes but the references to Karl Franz have been replaced - the scroll on the side used to say Emperor Karl Franz and now says Sigmar something I can't make out and a few KFs are replaced with the Sigmar S

The original on the GW store has "emperor karl Franze" on the side of the model https://www.warhammer.com/en-EU/shop/Empire-Celestial-Hurricanum

It's interesting that they're actually going back and adjusting the kits now.

Isn't the same sprue used in the War Altar which they're re-releasing for TOW, makes sense for both systems, then

IIRC yes they share some sprues but are otherwise separate kits. Luminark/Hurricanum kit gets a specific sprue that builds those while nd the war altar gets another sprue that can only build the war altar

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's interesting that they're actually going back and adjusting the kits now.

I wonder if Warcradle has had some pressure on the market there. They've been tinkering with their plastic sprue a LOT. Granted I believe they use cheaper/softer moulds that work well but don't last as long as the masters GW commissions. However its likely something that has put pressure on the plastic market - being able to react and change a sculpt mid-release without re-doing the entire model. I feel like that whole area is one GW has overlooked in favour of just doing big solid updates so its likely something that is fairly new for them to mess with as they've updated Old World.

However it might be something they start considering tinkering with more.

Doubtful. GW has adjusted their plastic kits in the past - for example, several iterations of the tactical marine kit were just re-cuts of the previous kits with additional details and extra accessory bits added to the sprue. The Vyper and Falcon were apso recut about 20 years ago to make some adjustments to the weapons. Those are just the first example that comes to mind. More recently they recut the mold for the AoS Chaos Lord to eliminate the square base that was sculpted onto the sprue, now its just the tactical rock sans square base.

All that being said, theres not a lot of value add to recutting molds midstream. Warcradle has pissed off customers by doing unannounced recuts, as it has resulted in multiple indistinguishable versions of the same kit being available for sale and you can neber tell if youre gwtting the latest version or the old one.

 Overread wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It's interesting that they're actually going back and adjusting the kits now.

I wonder if Warcradle has had some pressure on the market there. They've been tinkering with their plastic sprue a LOT. Granted I believe they use cheaper/softer moulds that work well but don't last as long as the masters GW commissions. However its likely something that has put pressure on the plastic market - being able to react and change a sculpt mid-release without re-doing the entire model. I feel like that whole area is one GW has overlooked in favour of just doing big solid updates so its likely something that is fairly new for them to mess with as they've updated Old World.

However it might be something they start considering tinkering with more.

It might well be that GW feels this is now something worth doing, for whatever reason, but I very much doubt that what some other, tiny manufacturer is doing has had any influence on GW’s thinking.

I just bought the commemorative minis for a baffling price of 47.50 € (37£).

As did i. But it's the same price as the original two, so i guess that's why.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Doubtful. GW has adjusted their plastic kits in the past - for example, several iterations of the tactical marine kit were just re-cuts of the previous kits with additional details and extra accessory bits added to the sprue. The Vyper and Falcon were apso recut about 20 years ago to make some adjustments to the weapons.

But those are new tools tooled for similar sculpts, not an adjusted tool. The only prior case I know of of GW modifying a tool is thickening Crisis Suit ankles, a simple case of enlarging a cavity. Warcradle also mostly does this, just adds new bits into gaps on the sprue.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
As did i. But it's the same price as the original two, so i guess that's why.

I didn’t realise the original two were so expensive til I learnt the price of these. I also got these though because I like them a lot more than the originals.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Doubtful. GW has adjusted their plastic kits in the past - for example, several iterations of the tactical marine kit were just re-cuts of the previous kits with additional details and extra accessory bits added to the sprue. The Vyper and Falcon were apso recut about 20 years ago to make some adjustments to the weapons.

But those are new tools tooled for similar sculpts, not an adjusted tool. The only prior case I know of of GW modifying a tool is thickening Crisis Suit ankles, a simple case of enlarging a cavity. Warcradle also mostly does this, just adds new bits into gaps on the sprue.

everything i referenced was an existing tool that was modified, not a new tool