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Euro price list courtesy of TGA.

Vhordrai at €150 is definitely $195 USD, £115 GBP.

65€ for the 3 crypts is harsh, I remember when the entire Garden of Morr was that much. Heck I think it started at 40€.

Scourge of Ghyran:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2pgti3di/prepare-for-the-next-generals-handbook-with-the-scourge-of-ghyran/

Dailies for everybody seems a lot for a new GHB season, but not complaining

Nevelon wrote:But presumably they need to print new boxes with pic of the new skeletons. Seems a bit excessive for something that’s going to be retired when they shift to the new spearhead.

Overread wrote:Or they keep both on the market at the same time and timed it so that they naturally ran out of boxes in stock as much as they could. Esp if its going to be like the others mentioned and could be another 6 months before we see the new spearhead appear

Interestingly, I was poking about on Reddit a few days ago, and the new Skeletons are already appearing in the old Spearhead with old box as of last week if you direct order from GW.

Yup... I'm out. $200 giant models just really reminds me how much GW has lost the narrative of what mini-wargaming even is.

Its not price versus points or anything, but $200 just goes so far in the hands of other companies.

Sometimes it feels like GW doesn't realize that as world economics chokes our buying power, that they can't just increase pricing forever without hitting thresholds where even super-fans have a moment of clarity.

Last month I happily dropped $400 on an Old World Tomb Kings army, but this is a bridge too far even for my dumb addicted self.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Yup... I'm out. $200 giant models just really reminds me how much GW has lost the narrative of what mini-wargaming even is.

Its not price versus points or anything, but $200 just goes so far in the hands of other companies.

Sometimes it feels like GW doesn't realize that as world economics chokes our buying power, that they can't just increase pricing forever without hitting thresholds where even super-fans have a moment of clarity.

Last month I happily dropped $400 on an Old World Tomb Kings army, but this is a bridge too far even for my dumb addicted self.

I mean, what do they care? You've just said you dropped nearly half a grand on 20 year old models and resins. The money still goes to them, just from various sources and people will buy it, that's a guarantee.

 Overread wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:
I'd imagine the big guy is $165 USD, which is still pretty pricey but not as insane as $195 would have been. That would put him on par with the big Stormcast dragons.

Well they share the same base size - the Stormcast dragons are 160mm and the new vampire dragon is also on a 160mm base

Pretty sure that's the same base size as Kruleboyz' Gobsprakk/Killaboss on Vulcha is on, and I do have that model (and it is indeed quite large). It's probably the standard size for AoS centerpiece models.

Day one, the rats:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ahs2k9uo/scourge-of-ghyran-day-1-bring-on-the-skavendoom/

Interesting and themed rules. And updates of some units too.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
And updates of some units too.

Not updates, variants for the season.

Scourge of Ghyran variant warscrolls provide you with a new way to play with selected units from each army in the next GHB season. These units have separate points values and can be substituted for that unit’s original warscroll. You can't use both the Scourge of Ghyran variant and the original warscroll for a particular unit in the same army, so choose wisely!

Details about the General's Handbook in todays Scourge of Ghyran article:

General’s Handbook Fact #1
It’s a box, not a book! Okay, technically there is a book inside the box, but this gorgeous new format includes so much more. Alongside the book you’ll also find new battle tactics cards, battleplan cards, manifestation warscroll cards and six very fancy objective markers. So much exciting content, so little space to explore it. If only the internet was infinite… You’ll just have to come back another day to find out more.

Tomorrow’s Scourge of Ghyran update is for an army of virtuous warriors who seek to preserve and protect the realms by sallying forth on noble quests. They do smell slightly odd though

Also, I like how they talk about "modeling options" in regards to the new banner options for SCE.

FEC next?

I wonder if someone at GW has broken down and convinced the management that 3 year edition cycles don't work but that to sweeten the deal they are going to beef up the General's Handbook updates and then spread out the 3 year cycle?

That would make logical sense considering that last time GW had to shelve models for stormcast that weren't even 3 years old yet and that's on the back of AoS having lots of armies that could have used those same production slots and investment for long term models and sales.


Also the whole 3 years for rules and gameplay must be feeding back to GW that customers are burning out. Heck get your codex/battletome late and you might only get 1.5 years of it working before its gone

Possibly. But i imagine it would be hard to convince the uppers at GW to hold back on the sheer cash boost a new ed gets every three or so years.


I like the season change to Iridan, makes them a bit more powerful. I do wonder what they mean by modelling options for the banner.

Yeah, definitely FEC tomorrow.

Yeah but honestly the big cash injection is less on the rules and more on the massive bundle of cheap models and two armies getting big updates. GW can totally do a "launch box" style box without the core rulebook and it would likely sell just as well.

The trickle of sales on rules they can emulate even with just part-edition update books. With FAQ/Errata/GHB and such updates now so swift many people would likely be easily convinced to get an updated Battletomme that includes all the new models that got released; all the updates and so on.


I think GW can have their cake of money they just have to shift away from wanting to remake the game on a 3 year cycle. And honestly considering how many games GW now supports I don't think they can even achieve it on 3 year cycles any more. At least not without it straining them and causing issues and being highly vulnerable to any delay.


Heck with 40K, AoS, Old World and Horus Heresy you can't even do a 3 year edition cycle on major games. You run out of summers. That also ignores smaller specialist games like Necromunda getting major update events or even adding any more major specialist games to the list.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I do wonder what they mean by modelling options for the banner.

Conversions, you silly goose!

Unless they are releasing an upgrade kit of some sort, ala the SCE Chamber upgrades from first edition, but that seems rather indulgent for AoS, given that they stopped doing them so long ago.

Couple AOS novels coming soon:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2thqqbn0/corsairs-vampires-battle-sisters-and-more-star-in-new-black-library-books/

 Overread wrote:
I think GW can have their cake of money they just have to shift away from wanting to remake the game on a 3 year cycle.

It's the three year cycle that allows them to release complete trash. If editions were longer they'd have to make them good.

 nels1031 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I do wonder what they mean by modelling options for the banner.

Conversions, you silly goose!

Unless they are releasing an upgrade kit of some sort, ala the SCE Chamber upgrades from first edition, but that seems rather indulgent for AoS, given that they stopped doing them so long ago.

Couple AOS novels coming soon:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2thqqbn0/corsairs-vampires-battle-sisters-and-more-star-in-new-black-library-books/

I hope it's an upgrade kit or two. I missed those the first time around and they always looked good. Also yay an Abraxia novel, she's quickly become a fun favourite. I really hope it gets a nice special ed.

 Overread wrote:
Also the whole 3 years for rules and gameplay must be feeding back to GW that customers are burning out. Heck get your codex/battletome late and you might only get 1.5 years of it working before its gone

that is the reason why they started that in the first place
they make the most money on new people starting, people hardly stay more than 2 editions continuously before they drop out or pause

if a book or model line isn't good, people are more likely to wait for the next version with a shorter timeframe. Like 10th Edi CSM suck, no problem next Edition ist just 1.5 years away just paint the stuff you have and wait. You don't like the new core rules at all, it is just 3 years until it get completely changed again just pause on gaming and buy some models to paint.
Next chance for an update being 6 years and you start playing something different instead of waiting that it maybe will be good this time

that it burns out people, mentally and their money, is seen as an advantage here and also gets them an excuse on releasing bad rules (as no one can balance everything in that short time frame), while taking 6 years and releasing something bad won't go down that well

Iirc the original pitch for 8th ed 40k was that there would be no more editions and theyd update the game through chapter approved in an annual basis in perpetuity or something to that effect.

Didnt work out that way, dont see it happening now

chaos0xomega wrote:
Iirc the original pitch for 8th ed 40k was that there would be no more editions and theyd update the game through chapter approved in an annual basis in perpetuity or something to that effect.

Didnt work out that way, dont see it happening now

They must have genuinely thought they did a good job. It would be cute if it weren't so tragic.

The most noble of forces today:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/r1lrr7uz/scourge-of-ghyran-day-3-dining-out-with-the-flesh-eaters/

Have to say, hero's being able to gain a perm 5+ ward is quite a thing.

And the gitz get their turn

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/smdux6ly/scourge-of-ghyran-day-4-fanatic-fantastic/

I'm loving the spell lores for my wolves and chariots.

I'm currently building 2 armies (lizardman and vamps) using AoS minis, so I only follow this thread and AoS news for the miniatures.

For those that are currently engaged in AoS are these seasonal updates via the GHB a welcome change and a breath of fresh air or does it feel like unnecessary churn? I currently feel burnt out on 40k updates, where it feels like several books have almost been rewritten through the constant updates and although some of the updates are positive they seem to come so thick and fast it's hard to keep up. So I'm genuinely interested in how news of this latest refresh of rules for AoS feels, given that the most recent edition is only around a year old.

I mean, they're once a year thematic optional rules. It's not a refresh, it's just a different way to play. It's not like 40k where they have to churn to actually make the game (barely) playable.

Hey there, here is my review of the new Soulblight Gravelords release wave. I‘ve got high-res sprue images and all build options for Prince Vhordrai, the new Lord on Nightmare Steed, the manifestations, and Cursed Sepulchre terrain set. There are also scale and size comparisons of the Revenant Draconith: https://taleofpainters.com/2025/05/review-soulblight-gravelords-prince-vhordrai-vampire-lord-on-nightmare-steed-manifestations-cursed-sepulchre/

Well none of the local FLGS got the full allocation of SBGL they are all missing some kits. In the end I had to go the Firestorm which actually worked out cheaper but I like to support local when I can.

Thanks for the scale pictures. Seems like dragons got bigger while I wasn't looking. I already had trouble storing the old zombie dragon.

Got shiny new Soulblight!!!!!

And since they didn't release the new spearhead I've got two shiny dragons coming!


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 Geifer wrote:
Thanks for the scale pictures. Seems like dragons got bigger while I wasn't looking. I already had trouble storing the old zombie dragon.

It's for that reason I wish they'd given the prince the option of a sword or axe or just a spear in a LOWERED position not raised. That plus his standard armchair back means the model gets a huge amount of additional height which makes it more problematic for transport.

Thank you for the sprue pics, that's something I find frustrating at times, that GW don't show them much anymore (or 3D videos either).

I ordered the Vampire Lord on nightmare steed so it's great to see how it fits together for my planned minor alteration

The Dragon is enormous

 stahly wrote:
Hey there, here is my review of the new Soulblight Gravelords release wave. I‘ve got high-res sprue images and all build options for Prince Vhordrai, the new Lord on Nightmare Steed, the manifestations, and Cursed Sepulchre terrain set. There are also scale and size comparisons of the Revenant Draconith: https://taleofpainters.com/2025/05/review-soulblight-gravelords-prince-vhordrai-vampire-lord-on-nightmare-steed-manifestations-cursed-sepulchre/

Thanks Stahly. So Vordrhai's actually technically taller than Krondys/Karazai with his lance. That's kind of funny actually.

I love the heads on the dragon but the pose of the wings does let it down for me.