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I would assume nighthaunt would be fairly commonly encountered by the living residents of Shyish, no?

I think there's a difference between encountering the living dead and the nighthaunt

Nighthaunt are specifically the armed forces of the dead.


That said Shyish is a very very strange realm because you've got it fragmented into loads of mini-worlds all populated with the dead of that belief group. Yet also alongside them you've got the living (honestly I've never really understood why the living choose to remain or migrate or live in the realm of death - most of the other realms I can see a purpose/reason/desire but Death is an odd one).

And the dead seem to appear very variable - in some realms the dead just don't appear and you really only see the mortal living; in others you see some of the dead sometimes and in others the ghosts of the dead are in full force.

 Overread wrote:
That said Shyish is a very very strange realm because you've got it fragmented into loads of mini-worlds all populated with the dead of that belief group. Yet also alongside them you've got the living (honestly I've never really understood why the living choose to remain or migrate or live in the realm of death - most of the other realms I can see a purpose/reason/desire but Death is an odd one).

Most people don't like loss or fear of loss very much. No need to deal with that nonsense if mom and dad stick around forever, albeit a little more translucently.

Overread wrote:

 Overread wrote:
That said Shyish is a very very strange realm because you've got it fragmented into loads of mini-worlds all populated with the dead of that belief group. Yet also alongside them you've got the living (honestly I've never really understood why the living choose to remain or migrate or live in the realm of death - most of the other realms I can see a purpose/reason/desire but Death is an odd one).

Most people don't like loss or fear of loss very much. No need to deal with that nonsense if mom and dad stick around forever, albeit a little more translucently.

I also assumed that its pretty much like living in poverty, most people can't really afford to pop off to live some where nicer if they are born in the realm of death. For most people, almost all of the realms are going to be a life of hardship- struggle to grow food (that doesn't combust, grow teeth, get eaten, or walk off on its own), get raided, get mutated, or just go mad. We mostly see and hear about the lives of the well fed- the armies, the champions, the people that live in big cities and homes that are walled in.

I suspect that a good deal of folk that live in places like shyish are 'peasant' types that just got born into it and can't really afford to just pack up and move to a a 'nicer' sunny realm and retire. They live, they struggle, they do what they have to do get by, they become new nighthaunt. The cycle continues.

 Geifer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
That said Shyish is a very very strange realm because you've got it fragmented into loads of mini-worlds all populated with the dead of that belief group. Yet also alongside them you've got the living (honestly I've never really understood why the living choose to remain or migrate or live in the realm of death - most of the other realms I can see a purpose/reason/desire but Death is an odd one).

Most people don't like loss or fear of loss very much. No need to deal with that nonsense if mom and dad stick around forever, albeit a little more translucently.

I like to think it's more of a case of being like real world humans, i.e. sticking your flag in the ground no matter how horrible it is and going "this is mine now".

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
That said Shyish is a very very strange realm because you've got it fragmented into loads of mini-worlds all populated with the dead of that belief group. Yet also alongside them you've got the living (honestly I've never really understood why the living choose to remain or migrate or live in the realm of death - most of the other realms I can see a purpose/reason/desire but Death is an odd one).

Most people don't like loss or fear of loss very much. No need to deal with that nonsense if mom and dad stick around forever, albeit a little more translucently.

I like to think it's more of a case of being like real world humans, i.e. sticking your flag in the ground no matter how horrible it is and going "this is mine now".

There's that. But as they say, why not combine business with pleasure?

FEC's rules:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ahtkbnq6/let-the-abhorrants-impart-their-powerful-delusions-upon-you-with-new-rules-for-the-flesh-eater-courts/

Felgryn's ability to reduced control scores by 10 is quite a skill.

 Geifer wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Overread wrote:
That said Shyish is a very very strange realm because you've got it fragmented into loads of mini-worlds all populated with the dead of that belief group. Yet also alongside them you've got the living (honestly I've never really understood why the living choose to remain or migrate or live in the realm of death - most of the other realms I can see a purpose/reason/desire but Death is an odd one).

Most people don't like loss or fear of loss very much. No need to deal with that nonsense if mom and dad stick around forever, albeit a little more translucently.

I like to think it's more of a case of being like real world humans, i.e. sticking your flag in the ground no matter how horrible it is and going "this is mine now".

There's that. But as they say, why not combine business with pleasure?

Business... WITH pleasure?


Why, have you met our lord and savior, Slaanesh?...

Porsenna wrote:

Business... WITH pleasure?


Why, have you met our lord and savior, Slaanesh?...

Slaanesh does business. Khorne does pleasure.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Showerthought: when the nighthaunt are an actual thing and people can see the eternal punishment and damnation in store for them in the afterlife as a consequence for their transgressions and crimes, wouldnt that be strong motivation for most to avoid committing crimes or leading amoral/sinful lives?

Not really. It's just Nagash's decision what a bad or good life was.

Where once Dreadscythe Harridans were healers and nurturers, the Harridan Curse – dealt as a terrible reward by Nagash – reshapes them in death into something quite the opposite of what they once were. Where there were once healing hands, bonescythes grow; horrible reaping instruments meant for murder, borne by now-raging killers for whom the sight of blood is an inspiring vision spurring them on to further fury. While they retain memories of life, they cannot control their actions – each bears full witness to the atrocities they commit, yet can do nothing to halt.

Heck Nagash can even break you down and rebuild you into Ossiarchs. Your bones and soul ground down, filtered, the best parts extracted and used to create a new undead construct.

You can't really fault Nagash for punishing those who withhold souls from him that he is rightfully owed.

 Geifer wrote:
You can't really fault Nagash for punishing those who withhold souls from him that he is rightfully owed.

Easy there Arkhan, Nagash isn't watching right now. (He's still a bit comatose).


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Spooks rules:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hsrvwzdi/scare-the-wits-out-of-your-foes-and-open-up-a-phantasmal-pharmacy-with-battletome-nighthaunt/

wow... did they really just change nighthaunt from pretty much a 4+ save across the board to a 6+ !?!?

Well, they ignore modifiers, every unit gets a better ward and bigger units get more health. Probably works out slightly better for them.

Also their ward went from the 6++ all undead share to a 5++. That’s kinda huge and makes up for a loss in armor.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well, they ignore modifiers, every unit gets a better ward and bigger units get more health. Probably works out slightly better for them.

They also now only ignore negative modifiers, so you can use commands that buff armor saves.

Spearhead chit chat:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/a0hewjkc/spearheads-of-death-whats-new-for-the-nighthaunt-and-flesh-eater-courts/

And FEC's Regiments of Renknown:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nudwrxbe/knightly-bannermen-join-a-riotous-bacchanal-in-the-flesh-eater-courts-armies-and-regiments-of-renown/

I love the way they write the FEC's:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xufnvdpx/chronicles-of-ruin-the-aspirants-tale/

seeing nighthaunt makes me cry
no more stalkers... i wonder if theyre gone or just not in the leak?

Given that they never once made them work, I think them dropping the problem unit is quite likely.

New animation finally, let's go questin'

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lkuibigz/sigmars-toll-watch-the-teaser-for-the-latest-warhammer-animation/

Would do if he had rules for Cursed City....

New animation today model previews for the next year probably tomorrow then

 Overread wrote:
New animation today model previews for the next year probably tomorrow then

The models better be good.
The volume of animation was pathetic this year, and the "Watch people hobby" shows are not interesting to me.
Even the Loremaster videos are not what I am looking for.
They focus too much on the narrator when it should just be continuous relevant art dumps while they talk.

I am currently unsure if I will continue my sub.
I barely touch the Vault, I have a real library & a vast pdf collection.
Paying for the army builders has less draw since New Recruit exists, and I play way less than I used to.

So we shall see.

I has felt a lot more empty on video content this year. I think its a battle for GW between having volume of lower animated quality stuff and having fewer higher quality ones.

That said whilst the animation was a bit "comicbook made into animation" I was always a big fan of the art and stories in Bolter and Chainsword - even if I'd argue they could have done more AoS stuff.

Honestly I wonder if GW needs to do what Vivsipop and others have done and lean into more merch for their animations to help then drive more income for animation budgets in general. That or they are investing heavily into more stuff to fuel Amazon once that gets going.

Little bit of spook action:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/gc1qdapa/chronicles-of-ruin-blood-offering/

Didn't see these announced anywhere, but there's a couple new Weta bits coming up

https://www.wetanz.com/us/brands/warhammer

There's a pic of a new Lord Celestant on foot that seems to be exclusive to the new Hatchette subscription.

Its floating around reddit, but I saw it on the Facebook SCE page. Workblocked so can't post the pic :(

Pretty sweet mini, and I might like it over some of the builds on the current multipart Lord Celestant.

Also, per the 10 year AOS plot wrap-up articles, this little blurb:

We’ll be taking a peek into the future with a final article next week, about what may be coming for the Mortal Realms.

Think we'll get some glimpses of some mini's, or just plot hooks and lore developments?

Allow me. Also i had a curious feeling it was going to be a Celestant, looks very good.