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 Platuan4th wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Dire Avengers could easily be an upgrade sprue for Guardians.

You mean like that time that they were that?

Out of curiosity, when did this happpen?
I had no idea, and have never seen any old pics of Dire Avengers exept for the metal guys.

 Fayric wrote:

Out of curiosity, when did this happpen?
I had no idea, and have never seen any old pics of Dire Avengers exept for the metal guys.

Around 3rd Ed. They were metal heads, exarch arms, and loincloths made to fit the multiplart plastic Guardians.

 Fayric wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

Billicus wrote:
Dire Avengers could easily be an upgrade sprue for Guardians.

You mean like that time that they were that?

Out of curiosity, when did this happpen?
I had no idea, and have never seen any old pics of Dire Avengers exept for the metal guys.

3rd ed they were a metal tabard/head/shoulder bit iirc with guardian bodies and arms.

Ninjad

I actually have that metal upgrade pack, never assembled. I won a box of Dire Avengers in a tournament, but I didn't play Eldar then so the got converted into Dark Eldar Warriors. DA bits are still in my bits box.

Dudeface wrote:

Khahandran wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Khahandran wrote:
Eldar priority has to be resin before plastic, older before newer. Dire Avengers are at the bottom of the pile for a refresh, unless there's a requirement for them to fit in with a refreshed Asurmen.

Yes, but why not both?

Because realistically speaking, they're not going to release that many things? That's even if I agree with you that there's something wrong with them, and I don't see it precisely because they're newer and in plastic.

18 years sold is not new though, there are other people on this thread saying they haven't aged well.

Their 22 release was 10 kits, so clearly they can and do release that many things.

I didn't say new. I said newer. 18 years is a damn sight newer than 30 years. I repeat what I said, resin models over already plastic models. Older models over newer.

I also didn't say they never release of that size. I said realistically. You don't get releases of that size every time. The remaining Phoenix Lords alone are half of that 10 even if it did happen. As for aged well, I put some together only a few years ago. The only thing 'wrong' as far as I'm concerned is how you feel about ball and socket over monopose, and I prefer ball.

Khahandran wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Khahandran wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Khahandran wrote:
Eldar priority has to be resin before plastic, older before newer. Dire Avengers are at the bottom of the pile for a refresh, unless there's a requirement for them to fit in with a refreshed Asurmen.

Yes, but why not both?

Because realistically speaking, they're not going to release that many things? That's even if I agree with you that there's something wrong with them, and I don't see it precisely because they're newer and in plastic.

18 years sold is not new though, there are other people on this thread saying they haven't aged well.

Their 22 release was 10 kits, so clearly they can and do release that many things.

I didn't say new. I said newer. 18 years is a damn sight newer than 30 years. I repeat what I said, resin models over already plastic models. Older models over newer.

I also didn't say they never release of that size. I said realistically. You don't get releases of that size every time. The remaining Phoenix Lords alone are half of that 10 even if it did happen. As for aged well, I put some together only a few years ago. The only thing 'wrong' as far as I'm concerned is how you feel about ball and socket over monopose, and I prefer ball.

The fire dragons are newer than the dire avengers, just saying. I never mentioned ball and socket. The issue arose because of the prevailing attitude the BA release wasn't "small" which it really was.