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Would there be any reason why I couldn't use 8mm Legions Imperialis models to play the originally 6mm Epic Space Marine? Would it somehow not work?

I've noticed there is quite a lot of 8mm Orks around now and I'm not super into being restricted to the Heresy.

They are the same picture -meme.

The Epic community has always used whatever eclectic mixture of old GW, new GW, 3d prints, third party sculpts, forumware truescale casts and whatnots happily together. It took maybe two seconds in 2018 when AT launched for the first big titans to walk alongside older armies into games of Epic without a hitch.

There are no problems with using whatever stuff you like.

That's good to know I wasn't sure if it would impact ruleswise. So I'm thinking even 6mm infantry and 8mm vehicles might look good together

My 90's plastic Tacticals and Rhinos mix just fine amidst my printed Terminators and superheavies while beating the snot out of new GW plastic Word Bearers while terrain uses both GW Civitas kits, scale-agnostic natural features and way smaller scale scratchbuilt hab-structures.



My partly printed, partly Vanguard 6 mm metals Mechanicum fights against classic IG and Chaos models comprising the Lost and the Damned amidst modern GW terrain kits.





Likewise against classic metal Dark Angels.



90's Tacticals, Preds converted from old Rhinos, Spartans converted from old Land Raiders, printed Fellblade and Dreads taking on modern Iron Warriors with titan support.



Plenty more in the plogs and gallery. It's fine.

 Sherrypie wrote:
They are the same picture -meme.

The Epic community has always used whatever eclectic mixture of old GW, new GW, 3d prints, third party sculpts, forumware truescale casts and whatnots happily together. It took maybe two seconds in 2018 when AT launched for the first big titans to walk alongside older armies into games of Epic without a hitch.

There are no problems with using whatever stuff you like.

I will just corroborate what SherryPie has said here, and if you join some of the online Epic communities you will see the same thing there too.

I think because the game was not officially supported for so long you had a mass of garage/forumware casts, alongside the classic GW and later 3d printing. So everyone seems to be quite loose about it, and TBH unless you mix scales directly (for example if you put a classic GW 6mm marine on the same base as Legions Imperialis) it will look fine. Even then, the below Orks are a mix of classic GW, Vanguard Miniatures 'skinners' range and some printed stuff:



Classic GW tanks & new printed stuff, the Chin-ork is Vanguard Miniatures


Rules-wise I would say it shouldn't matter at all. Something like Armageddon is base-agnostic, and the games which use True-LOS, in reality looking from a 6 or 8mm miniature I would say won't make a difference. Unless you are a Lilliputian!

Thanks heaps you guys have been very enlightening. Which edition of the epic rules do you prefer?

All editions are basically different games, with the now notable caveat that LI is heavily based on SM 2nd edition.

If you like to have large-ish armies, simple core rules with lots of funky special rules and associated retro-clunk, 2nd (NetEpic Gold) can do. If you like rivetcounting for its own sake with less funkiness and worse proofreading, LI can do. 2nd's paradigm lasted the longest under GW sales, which is the likely reason that it was unfortunately chosen as the starting point for LI's development.

If you like to have really large armies, high levels of abstraction and very free force construction rules, Epic 40000 (3rd edition, Remastered project ongoing) is the way. Very elegant system, so much so that many players who liked the retro-clunk before hated it. The least played, yet much appreciated by its afficianados.

If you're fine with slightly smaller battalions and are hankering for a tighter combined arms game of mechanised warfare at fluid fronts that allows other interactions than just removing models from the table, Epic: Armageddon (4th edition, has list packs like NetEA, EpicUK, EpicAU 30k etc.) has you covered. EA is the most played version of Epic that also had the shortest official shelf life before GW canned Specialist Games twenty years ago. Tournament-grade system.

Personal ranking? Epic: Armageddon wins by a country mile as a generally excellent system, E40k earns high praise for design elegance (especially for very large games) and 2nd / LI drag their clunky butts well behind both. That said, it's a comparative statement in an esteemed company, as I'll still rather play LI over regular 40k / HH most of the time.

Thanks, Sherrypie"!
thats a great write up/eval... very usefull,
as I'm trying to get some of the 40K guys over to Epic!