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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
However they did say the Arcane Journal contains brand new units - which GW being GW, I assume will be made available in due course.

Knowing the Arcane Journals, each "new unit" will have a box explaining how to differentiate the "new unit" by paint, bits, or leaving a part off.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

I see the guy on the rights helmet is so heavy its forced his neck down into his chest.

Is….is he wielding Ghal Maraz?

I don't like how the empire battalion box comes with a steam tank. Would've rather had 10 knights or a great cannon/hellblaster in that spot.

The Eldar release is the real winner here, though I still want new Dire Avengers eventually as that kit is showing it's age.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, overall.

Substantial reveals, some real crowd pleasers, and minimal waffle.

Contender for best preview show to date?

100%!

What's with the deredeo hate though. It's good fugly imo, I prefer it to the leviathan anyway. Though the lack of pose-ability in the kit was disappointing.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, overall.

Substantial reveals, some real crowd pleasers, and minimal waffle.

Contender for best preview show to date?

There was one other one that was completely mad, was it the Lion reveal?

Best one since that though.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, overall.

Substantial reveals, some real crowd pleasers, and minimal waffle.

Contender for best preview show to date?

Sorry but with 0 Tyranids present this one cannot be eligible for "Best Preview Show to Date"

but we could allow "Best Preview Show, since the last Tyranid Preview Show"

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
Still don't understand the love for the Deredeo... That's an ugly looking dreadnought, right there.

Doesn't the entire Marine aesthetic hinge on going so deep into ugly and stupid they come out the other side?

... No...?

There are plenty of stupid designs throughout the 40k range, but that's precisely because the design brief is that looking cool takes precedence over practicality.

But looking cool is entirely subjective, so there are always going to be some misses from any one person's perspective. The Deredeo is one, for me. I love pretty much every other dreadnought that GW have ever made (aside from the Primaris dreads being so big), but the Deredeo design just doesn't do it for me.

It doesn't help that it's just standing stock straight. Just looks like a statue and nothing else going on

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Contender for best preview show to date?

Pretty high up there for quantity, even if most of it isn't for me. But we've had some bangers lately. And it had a low system count (4?)


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
It doesn't help that it's just standing stock straight. Just looks like a statue and nothing else going on

The pose certainly isn't great. If they just had 2-3 variant cables for each gun that accommodated different angles...

I know a lot of Empire players will be really glad to the see the Free Company box back, if anything, I don't think I heard more praises for a kit other than that one, to the point where I almost want to get one just to see what I could put on my Greatswords to give them a bit more character.

But I know a guy who's exploring all sorts of cool tangents from the basic Dorito

WHO? I wanna add this thing to my ever growing list of things to print once I get my printer out of storage from moving again.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
But I know a guy who's exploring all sorts of cool tangents from the basic Dorito

Spoiler:

See, now - that, I would totally buy in plastic...

Deredeo is intended as a self propelled fire support platform. And as a walker, can go places similar things can’t.

I really like the design meself. Harks back to the Space Crusade and Epic Chaos Dreadnought design.

 Platuan4th wrote:
WHO? I wanna add this thing to my ever growing list of things to print once I get my printer out of storage from moving again.

You can find it on cults under "unsinking"

 GaroRobe wrote:
Did they mention that they removed "Karl Franz" off the empire models? It looks like they did

They did not, the example uses existing parts in the kit for the generic General of the Empire/Freeguild Marshal.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I really like the design meself. Harks back to the Space Crusade and Epic Chaos Dreadnought design.

It really doesn't, though. It has an elongated chest, but with the head on top instead of at the front as the SC/Epic dread did. Beyond that, there are absolutely no common design elements. If it was supposed to be a callback to that dread (as seems to be the prevailing opinion online), I can only assume it was designed by someone who had the original version described to them without ever actually seeing the original model.


Edit - but just to be clear - none of this is intended to gak on anyone else's preferences. I'm happy for those who like it - there are certainly plenty of models in the 40K range that I like that others don't, and that's also ok. The Deredeo just jumps out as an oddity for me because even aside from the fact that I don't like the way it looks on its own, it doesn't actually look like it even belongs with anything else in the Marine range, for 30K or 40K. It's just a really weird design choice.

Loving the new Eldar Phoenix Lord and excited that Malaneth gets her own book

Plastic Spiders... never thought I'd see the day.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

I see the guy on the rights helmet is so heavy its forced his neck down into his chest.

Is….is he wielding Ghal Maraz?

Presumably someone has it - likely the Count of Reikland unless its been lost in battle

My brother in The Great Good, those Gitmob are just a preview of what a SW refresh could possibly be and I'm all here for it.

 CMLR wrote:
My brother in The Great Good, those Gitmob are just a preview of what a SW refresh could possibly be and I'm all here for it.

Doomdiver Bloodclaws?

Those are some nice looking puppies.

 insaniak wrote:
Still don't understand the love for the Deredeo... That's an ugly looking dreadnought, right there.

I'm right there with you. It's an absolutely awful design.

To be honest the one reveal that doesn't really hit for me is the Doom Diver. I love the old one and this just feels a bit... overdone? There's to much going on and it loses focus on it's fun bit, which is that daft goblin getting fired out of a catapult.

The Krieg flamer HWT game me butterflies. It's in my must buy list.

M.

Hot take: I prefer new gobwolves over the old ones. If size allowed it, I'd put the new ones on old rectangle ones. Current Fantasy Wolves look like Play-Doh or pirate dispenser machine toys, quite the disgraces.

And I think the new Doom Diver is miles better then the classic one (which has its charm, but still).

I think "overdone" is a good angle for AoS where everything is on the extreme end. Note its not just throwing goblins into the enemy its throwing solarpowered goblin bombs into the enemy.



Also considering that they are likely to see a model appear in Old World at some stage I think having really clear cut design differences is a really good and helpful thing in each game having its own identity.

AoS is fantasy dialled up to11

 CMLR wrote:
Hot take: I prefer new gobwolves over the old ones. If size allowed it, I'd put the new ones on old rectangle ones. Current Fantasy Wolves look like Play-Doh or pirate dispenser machine toys, quite the disgraces.

And I think the new Doom Diver is miles better then the classic one (which has its charm, but still).

I don't know how hot of a take that is, those new wolf riders look fantastic! Even having bought 10 snarlfangs riders to start up a greenskin heavy Chaos Dwarf army (at the rate I build and paint, it will be ready in 1-3 years), I am eyeing those new ones. Really the only issue I have with the new gobbos is that it is 9 models for a supposed 'army box'. Could have thrown in a set of snarlfangs just to give it a double digit model count at least.

Well that and the fact that it looks like all of the wolves are attached to the base by a single paw. I tend to prefer things more securely attached.

Someone found the inspiration for the new empire house character

 insaniak wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I really like the design meself. Harks back to the Space Crusade and Epic Chaos Dreadnought design.

It really doesn't, though. It has an elongated chest, but with the head on top instead of at the front as the SC/Epic dread did. Beyond that, there are absolutely no common design elements. If it was supposed to be a callback to that dread (as seems to be the prevailing opinion online), I can only assume it was designed by someone who had the original version described to them without ever actually seeing the original model.

I don't like the Deredeo that much, but it IS based on the SC Dreadnought. How the weapons are attached, the heavy bolters at the front and no close combat weapons at all. And that daemon mask isn't the head unless you believe that there was some really strange positioning of the inhabitant.