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 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting - ended up with one Eldar and one Dark Eldar detachment, not two Eldar ones.

Theyre both Aeldari

And I didn't see anyone suggesting the Dark Eldar would get anything until they did, so ye can drop the snark.

You're seeing snark where there isn't...

Asuryani is the Eldar society
Drukhari is the Dark Eldar society
Aeldari is the encompassing name.

But to be fair, Codex: Aeldari doesn't include the Dark Eldar.

locarno24 wrote:
Battleline Stormboyz! Kommando Warboss! Flash Git Big Mek Kaptin!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0mbjajib/grotmas-day-14-dreaming-of-a-green-christmas/

Ho ho ho, ya gitz!

I'd love to see someone throw 60 Stormboys on the table. It would make for a heck of a show.

new IG detachment is... probably alright, but lacks some of the unique energy that these other detachments have had. its form of conditional battleline isn't even unique, since that also was in the index (but this makes me wonder if they left it out of the codex for this)

The DE detachment looks quite fun.

Pity it's attached to a book that has all the flavour and character of a sandwich with no butter or filling.

And adding Harlequins into the mix is like adding a third piece of bread and nothing else.

A Kasrkin Christmas...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/a1g4ckja/grotmas-calendar-day-15-all-we-want-for-christmas-is-an-orbital-assault


Tomorrow is:

DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons

Heck yeah! Daemons!

 JNAProductions wrote:
Heck yeah! Daemons!

What do you think they are going to play like?

 vipoid wrote:
The DE detachment looks quite fun.

Pity it's attached to a book that has all the flavour and character of a sandwich with no butter or filling.

...they have a book?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
A Kasrkin Christmas...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/a1g4ckja/grotmas-calendar-day-15-all-we-want-for-christmas-is-an-orbital-assault


Tomorrow is:

DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons

Players: I want to play Mono-aligned Daemons, but the Index doesn't support that!
GW: Grotmas hears you.

 Dysartes wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
The DE detachment looks quite fun.

Pity it's attached to a book that has all the flavour and character of a sandwich with no butter or filling.

...they have a book?

Sorry, I meant:

'Pity it's attached to a PDF that has all the flavour and character of a sandwich with no butter or filling. '

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 VladimirHerzog wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Interesting - ended up with one Eldar and one Dark Eldar detachment, not two Eldar ones.

Theyre both Aeldari

And I didn't see anyone suggesting the Dark Eldar would get anything until they did, so ye can drop the snark.

You're seeing snark where there isn't...

Asuryani is the Eldar society
Drukhari is the Dark Eldar society
Aeldari is the encompassing name.

Sure, but Chaos is all humans and modified humans, but you don't see them getting lumped together.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
Heck yeah! Daemons!

What do you think they are going to play like?

If they are indeed making these detachments future-proof, then I'll bet none of them interact with Shadow of Chaos.

Something I've been pondering. Deathwatch don't technically have Inceptors, Eradicators, or Aggressors in their kill teams. They are just "Heavy Intercessors" with (insert wargear). I'm almost tempted to convert all they guys from Heavy Intercessors with WYSIWYG wargear. It would mean having Inceptors on their feet and NOT on those silly flight stands. It's technically not even cheating in a modeling for advantage sense.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
Heck yeah! Daemons!

What do you think they are going to play like?

If they are indeed making these detachments future-proof, then I'll bet none of them interact with Shadow of Chaos.

I have no idea what that is...

The fine forumites will have to tell me if the Daemons' detachments are any good today.





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 cuda1179 wrote:
Something I've been pondering. Deathwatch don't technically have Inceptors, Eradicators, or Aggressors in their kill teams. They are just "Heavy Intercessors" with (insert wargear). I'm almost tempted to convert all they guys from Heavy Intercessors with WYSIWYG wargear. It would mean having Inceptors on their feet and NOT on those silly flight stands. It's technically not even cheating in a modeling for advantage sense.

Is that allowed? In a GW tournament sense? For regular games, I could see the issue of having units that can FLY on non flying bases.... but don't Jump Packs have FLY and they are on non flying bases.... hmmmm. I don't have a problem with that, but I could see an evil rules lawyer having some issue.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Something I've been pondering. Deathwatch don't technically have Inceptors, Eradicators, or Aggressors in their kill teams. They are just "Heavy Intercessors" with (insert wargear). I'm almost tempted to convert all they guys from Heavy Intercessors with WYSIWYG wargear. It would mean having Inceptors on their feet and NOT on those silly flight stands. It's technically not even cheating in a modeling for advantage sense.

Depends on how much height change you end up with, and how much it changes things. If your walls are high enough to hide a flight stand Interceptor its pretty much a difference without a distinction. If the walls hide the landed Interceptor but not the flying one, it starts providing an advantage.


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 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Is that allowed? In a GW tournament sense? For regular games, I could see the issue of having units that can FLY on non flying bases.... but don't Jump Packs have FLY and they are on non flying bases.... hmmmm. I don't have a problem with that, but I could see an evil rules lawyer having some issue.

Its no different than any other conversion - so its up to the Tournament organizer usually - and a ton of the Tournament people will have likely already "converted" their Inceptors with 3D Printed smoke stands instead of the clear plastic flight stand. And you've got six plastic tokens. If 4-5 are on the flight stand, and 1-2 are on foot in between "bounding hops" you can always swap this mini for that mini to get LOS.

Breton wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Something I've been pondering. Deathwatch don't technically have Inceptors, Eradicators, or Aggressors in their kill teams. They are just "Heavy Intercessors" with (insert wargear). I'm almost tempted to convert all they guys from Heavy Intercessors with WYSIWYG wargear. It would mean having Inceptors on their feet and NOT on those silly flight stands. It's technically not even cheating in a modeling for advantage sense.

Depends on how much height change you end up with, and how much it changes things. If your walls are high enough to hide a flight stand Interceptor its pretty much a difference without a distinction. If the walls hide the landed Interceptor but not the flying one, it starts providing an advantage.


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 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Is that allowed? In a GW tournament sense? For regular games, I could see the issue of having units that can FLY on non flying bases.... but don't Jump Packs have FLY and they are on non flying bases.... hmmmm. I don't have a problem with that, but I could see an evil rules lawyer having some issue.

Its no different than any other conversion - so its up to the Tournament organizer usually - and a ton of the Tournament people will have likely already "converted" their Inceptors with 3D Printed smoke stands instead of the clear plastic flight stand. And you've got six plastic tokens. If 4-5 are on the flight stand, and 1-2 are on foot in between "bounding hops" you can always swap this mini for that mini to get LOS.

Remember, NOT Inceptor, Heavy Intercessor with jump pack. There is no model of this, and the only Heavy Intercessor model is grounded.

 cuda1179 wrote:

Remember, NOT Inceptor, Heavy Intercessor with jump pack. There is no model of this, and the only Heavy Intercessor model is grounded.

Yeah, I've pointed out that you can play this game with pocket change in the past. But if you want to get into the "Heavy Intercessor with Jump Pack" Semantics, the rulebook says you have to play with Citadel Models, and as you just pointed out there isn't a Citadel Model for Heavy Intercessor with Jump Pack, so you'd have to wait for them to release some.

Or, y'know, convert a Heavy Intercessor to have a Jump Pack...

I see at least the Nurgle detachment apparently interacts with Shadow of Chaos, which is interesting...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qfmpn3ui/grotmas-calendar-day-16-have-yourself-a-ruinous-little-day/

 Dysartes wrote:
Or, y'know, convert a Heavy Intercessor to have a Jump Pack...

I see at least the Nurgle detachment apparently interacts with Shadow of Chaos, which is interesting...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qfmpn3ui/grotmas-calendar-day-16-have-yourself-a-ruinous-little-day/

shame that it's just more battleshock stuff, which are pretty much never relevant.

Nurgle seems like the biggest loser in these new detachments.

Khorne has obvious power
Slaanesh is strong and fluffy
Tzeentch i'm gonna need to play a few times to get a feel for but i'm seeing very nice stuff in there

Tomorrow is the army that I keep forgetting about... The Leagues of Votann!

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
I see at least the Nurgle detachment apparently interacts with Shadow of Chaos, which is interesting...

shame that it's just more battleshock stuff, which are pretty much never relevant.

It's not atrocious.
But it could be a lot better.

I'll give it a shot, at least.

I like the tzeentch one a lot. The mechanic is qurirky but could be really good with boosting the strats. And all the strats and enhancements seem useable to great. Tzeentch is my fav and all my daemons except 1 unit are tzeentch so I will try this out. Not sure when as haven’t been able to play much but I am more interested in using this than the index detachment

 xeen wrote:
I like the tzeentch one a lot. The mechanic is qurirky but could be really good with boosting the strats. And all the strats and enhancements seem useable to great. Tzeentch is my fav and all my daemons except 1 unit are tzeentch so I will try this out. Not sure when as haven’t been able to play much but I am more interested in using this than the index detachment

The tzeentch one is very interesting, at first read it seemed pretty middling but the more i look into it and see the various interactions in it, the more excited i am to try it out.

I think it genuinely might be my favorite detachment so far in grotmas, with the Drukhari x Harlequins coming in close in second

The Tzeentch detachment is awesomely hilarious and I can't wait to give it a whirl! I think my top 5 so far are:

1) Tzeentchian Hilarity
2) Drukhari vs. Harlequins
3) Chaos Knights with Cultists
4) Blood Ravens
5) March of the Dreadnoughts (Custodes)

 BorderCountess wrote:
The Tzeentch detachment is awesomely hilarious and I can't wait to give it a whirl! I think my top 5 so far are:

1) Tzeentchian Hilarity
2) Drukhari vs. Harlequins
3) Chaos Knights with Cultists Imperial Knights with AdMech
4) Blood Ravens Tome Keepers
5) March of the Dreadnoughts (Custodes)

That's a pretty good list.


I wonder who's going to be last... Tau?

Looking further at the Nurgle Detachment, I'm not exactly thrilled about the Detachment rule.
But the Enhancements are pretty tasty. I'll take it.

 JNAProductions wrote:
Looking further at the Nurgle Detachment, I'm not exactly thrilled about the Detachment rule.
But the Enhancements are pretty tasty. I'll take it.

I'm not familar with how they play, what are they good at?

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
Looking further at the Nurgle Detachment, I'm not exactly thrilled about the Detachment rule.
But the Enhancements are pretty tasty. I'll take it.

I'm not familar with how they play, what are they good at?

One is just another defensive buff. Lone Operative (but at 18") for all Nurgle units within 6"-nifty for avoiding long-range firepower.
But the other one gives a bonus point of AP to all Nurgle attacks within 6"-that could be a game changer.

That sounds like unfun for shooty armies.