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Late announcement like, but glad to have it confirmed all the same.

You know what'd be nice? If GW could be bothered to do events in the UK that merited previews, as opposed to doing so many in the US.

Well, we do get Warhammerfest some years.

The video lists 40K, AOS, KT, and ToW as the games covered.

Strangely not HH

Might still be more, as the wording is “includes”.

 xttz wrote:
The video lists 40K, AOS, KT, and ToW as the games covered.

Strangely not HH

It'll be the surprise preview cgi jobby at the end as a guess.

Yeah I could see that. Quick teaser / trailer with no new models shown, then a larger dedicated preview some time in April for HH & LI

There could be a seperate "HH-only" preview in the Future.

Hopefully TOW Beastmen finally get a plastic chariot. I figure it's likely they will be heavily previewed. Most of their range is in plastic by now except for centigors and that old metal chariot.

 Dysartes wrote:
You know what'd be nice? If GW could be bothered to do events in the UK that merited previews, as opposed to doing so many in the US.

The US shows are pretty huge in attendance. That said I'm always surprised that GW does nothing at Salute - you'd think they'd be attending the biggest UK Wargame convention.

Then again them not being there likely helps out a lot of the other firms actually get attention, sales and so forth;

Bit of a surprise to see Kill Team so soon after the last late reveal and release of Blood and Zeal.

I'm guessing 40K is going to be dominated by the other three Legion books and their accompanying boxsets. Updated Roadmap would be nice but three short preview sections is already going to eat up a fair bit of that slot.

Wood elves are next for Old World aren't they? Curious to see what iteration they picked for them, as they've always had a bit of an issue with not wanting to play ranks and flanks Warhammer, and instead just be a bowline or a bunch of skirmishers.

Honestly? Biggest issue with Wood Elves was Wood Elves players insisting every terrain feature be a Woods.

Wonder if we’ll get news on Soulblight Gravelords? LVO was a bit ago, and they teased that there was more new stuff not covered in those reveals.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Bit of a surprise to see Kill Team so soon after the last late reveal and release of Blood and Zeal.

At a guess, box #4 will have one or both teams linked to upcoming Spring/Summer codexes. We may see something like Grey Knights vs TSons.

Yeah it's not so much the fact they're at adepticon that rankles so much as the fact it's the *only* third party event they show up to. It would be great to see them throw some support at British events. I think it'd be a positive for other suppliers, gets people in the door.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Wood elves are next for Old World aren't they? Curious to see what iteration they picked for them, as they've always had a bit of an issue with not wanting to play ranks and flanks Warhammer, and instead just be a bowline or a bunch of skirmishers.

Beastmen are next, then Wood Elves.

Ugh. Adepticon.

The Tournament I fell asleep during, and came in dead last in the 2009 team tournament (we lost to the ringer team).

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder if we’ll get news on Soulblight Gravelords? LVO was a bit ago, and they teased that there was more new stuff not covered in those reveals.

Right now I think that was just showing us the Terrain, Endless Spells and the new hero group focused around the Hollow King. Plus it would be really strange to preview more for soulblight when they've not released anything from the first wave

 Overread wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Wonder if we’ll get news on Soulblight Gravelords? LVO was a bit ago, and they teased that there was more new stuff not covered in those reveals.

Right now I think that was just showing us the Terrain, Endless Spells and the new hero group focused around the Hollow King. Plus it would be really strange to preview more for soulblight when they've not released anything from the first wave

I’d settle for a release date. Gotra be soon…

I'm expecting it any Sunday now honestly.

Billicus wrote:
Yeah it's not so much the fact they're at adepticon that rankles so much as the fact it's the *only* third party event they show up to. It would be great to see them throw some support at British events. I think it'd be a positive for other suppliers, gets people in the door.

Saturation and concentration is pretty high already in the UK.

i'm not sure a big presence at a British show would be welcomed by other independent vendors. i've seen plenty bemoaning the amout of GW stock brought along by some of the store based vendor and i'd bet they'd bring even more if there was an official (zero reductions) GW stand

It would bring in more punters though (and probably lower the age demographic) too

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Honestly? Biggest issue with Wood Elves was Wood Elves players insisting every terrain feature be a Woods.

There definitely needs to be some "an elite army appeared from nowhere" type element, rather than a horde of Robin Hoods marched across the Kingdom with Birnam Wood hotfooting it behind them.
Bit more Elrond and Thranduil than 100% Legolasses (and Legolads).

 xttz wrote:

 Tastyfish wrote:
Bit of a surprise to see Kill Team so soon after the last late reveal and release of Blood and Zeal.

At a guess, box #4 will have one or both teams linked to upcoming Spring/Summer codexes. We may see something like Grey Knights vs TSons.

I'd peg it more at factions with their sole Team moving out of the Classified format at the end of this season.

Thousand Sons is a fair bet, they could do with a bit of a scale update for some units and it would be odd for the codex to come out around the same time, and for the unit to be Kill Team locked rather than included in it as a regular unit. Grey Knights for the same reason, as they kind of only really need two kits updated in scale for a full relaunch, but rumours point away from that. Emperor's children are also perhaps too soon but I expect we'll see them next season.

Chaos are losing Legionaries and Blooded, but will keep Night Lords, Felgor and Chaos cult.
Eldar lose Corsairs (and Harlequins) but have gained Blades of Khaine.
Sisters lose Noviates but get the Sanctifiers
Orks lose Kommandos but get Wreckas
IG lose Krieg but get Ratlings and keep Kasrkin
Tau lose Pathfinders but keep Farstalkers and get Vespid
Nids/GC (I know) lose Wyrmblade but keep Brood Brothers
Marines drop Phobos but gain Angels of Death and Scouts
Deathguard lose Gellarpox but get Plague marines
Imp agents lose Star Striders but retain Arbites and Inquisitors

AdMech are losing Hunter Clade with no similar replacement.
Nids never had one outside of compendium or GSC.
Custodes disappeared in the edition change, but Sisters of Silence might represent them in the Inq list.
Daemons...well.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
i'm not sure a big presence at a British show would be welcomed by other independent vendors. i've seen plenty bemoaning the amout of GW stock brought along by some of the store based vendor and i'd bet they'd bring even more if there was an official (zero reductions) GW stand

It would bring in more punters though (and probably lower the age demographic) too

I don't think anyone really had issues with them when they were at UK Games Expo, as far as I'm aware, especially when they were one of the sponsors for the event.

This all comes back around to that terrible Warhammerfest they did - as I understand it, they got rid of their UK events team, and don't ever seem to have replaced them.

So the home of Games Workshop no longer gets a Golden Daemon, no longer gets a Games Day equivalent event, and no longer has GW turning up at other external events, which also means the customers in their home market don't get previews and don't get opportunities to pick up any event-only miniatures.

It's a disgrace, it really is.

 Dysartes wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
i'm not sure a big presence at a British show would be welcomed by other independent vendors. i've seen plenty bemoaning the amout of GW stock brought along by some of the store based vendor and i'd bet they'd bring even more if there was an official (zero reductions) GW stand

It would bring in more punters though (and probably lower the age demographic) too

I don't think anyone really had issues with them when they were at UK Games Expo, as far as I'm aware, especially when they were one of the sponsors for the event.

This all comes back around to that terrible Warhammerfest they did - as I understand it, they got rid of their UK events team, and don't ever seem to have replaced them.

So the home of Games Workshop no longer gets a Golden Daemon, no longer gets a Games Day equivalent event, and no longer has GW turning up at other external events, which also means the customers in their home market don't get previews and don't get opportunities to pick up any event-only miniatures.

It's a disgrace, it really is.

That's ignoring the fact we don't get the intro/family board games, although that is applicable to a lot of the world, it's still weird they aren't sold where they're made.

The UK market doesn't need as much outside-of-brand marketing as the US one does. UK side they have a store in most larger towns and most people know about Warhammer. If not by name then just tag on "those expensive models" and everyone quickly gets what you mean.

So I can see why some games like boardgames might not be marketed here as heavily because they are outreach products. If GW has a limited amount of resources and can't do a full global release for them then focusing on growing in a massive market like the US one is a sensible choice.

It might also be other things like a release in the UK is paired to policies of having an EU in general release and thus comes with more translation requirements.

 Overread wrote:
The UK market doesn't need as much outside-of-brand marketing as the US one does. UK side they have a store in most larger towns and most people know about Warhammer. If not by name then just tag on "those expensive models" and everyone quickly gets what you mean.

So I can see why some games like boardgames might not be marketed here as heavily because they are outreach products. If GW has a limited amount of resources and can't do a full global release for them then focusing on growing in a massive market like the US one is a sensible choice.

It might also be other things like a release in the UK is paired to policies of having an EU in general release and thus comes with more translation requirements.

They're available in other languages already, I believe they're sold in Germany and Japan? The other points are fair, but a mainstream gateway box is cool. But I'd argue the board game market, whilst commonly overlapping in places, is still a different market to wargaming.

 Dysartes wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
i'm not sure a big presence at a British show would be welcomed by other independent vendors. i've seen plenty bemoaning the amout of GW stock brought along by some of the store based vendor and i'd bet they'd bring even more if there was an official (zero reductions) GW stand

It would bring in more punters though (and probably lower the age demographic) too

I don't think anyone really had issues with them when they were at UK Games Expo, as far as I'm aware, especially when they were one of the sponsors for the event.

This all comes back around to that terrible Warhammerfest they did - as I understand it, they got rid of their UK events team, and don't ever seem to have replaced them.

So the home of Games Workshop no longer gets a Golden Daemon, no longer gets a Games Day equivalent event, and no longer has GW turning up at other external events, which also means the customers in their home market don't get previews and don't get opportunities to pick up any event-only miniatures.

It's a disgrace, it really is.

The big preview events in the UK have been replaced with smaller, specific ones at Warhammer World haven't they? That's where the Blood and Zeal surprise reveal came from, the Warhammer World anniversary event.

 Tastyfish wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
i'm not sure a big presence at a British show would be welcomed by other independent vendors. i've seen plenty bemoaning the amout of GW stock brought along by some of the store based vendor and i'd bet they'd bring even more if there was an official (zero reductions) GW stand

It would bring in more punters though (and probably lower the age demographic) too

I don't think anyone really had issues with them when they were at UK Games Expo, as far as I'm aware, especially when they were one of the sponsors for the event.

This all comes back around to that terrible Warhammerfest they did - as I understand it, they got rid of their UK events team, and don't ever seem to have replaced them.

So the home of Games Workshop no longer gets a Golden Daemon, no longer gets a Games Day equivalent event, and no longer has GW turning up at other external events, which also means the customers in their home market don't get previews and don't get opportunities to pick up any event-only miniatures.

It's a disgrace, it really is.

The big preview events in the UK have been replaced with smaller, specific ones at Warhammer World haven't they? That's where the Blood and Zeal surprise reveal came from, the Warhammer World anniversary event.

I think that's ascribing it too impact. I suspect that is what happened, but there wasn't a post up about the anniversary event on the day and the KT reveal doesn't mention it - you can be in the UK, and even be at WHW and not know it was either revealed or linked.

I really miss when there was plenty of Golden demons in different countries. GW had Forgeworld at Salute but that did stop too.

GW in more UK expos would be nice to see for sure.