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The chaos stuff was meh. The new Khorne character didn’t looks too different from the regular eightbound, but I’ve got the untrained eye

Looks-wise, he isn't different. (and though I think the arm looks goofy, the idea of his eviserater entirely fusing to his arm is neat, if a classic chaos feature)

But functionally for the army, a dedicated hero that can join those units (without dragging in the cavalry keyword) is pretty important

The big damper is their production limitations. They just did back-to-back-to-back army updates, so small single kits make sense (especially with Cathay and Gravelords also in the queue)

I was underwhelmed by the scrawny Ushabti-robots for TS, though dedicated gun units are needed there.

I liked the new Eightbound leader, I just hope that he can lead both regular and Exalted Eightbound.

Glad to see Karanak is coming back, now we just need to bring back the chariots as well.

The Cathay stuff is amazing, but it looks so challenging to paint, especially the flying balloon.

If they get around to giving Kislev a similar treatment in all plastic i'll be 100% onboard with that faction.

That Cathay army... Damn! Love me some Lanterns and Cannons. Can't afford another GW game of course, so beautiful as it was... Not in my future.

Ditto on Space Wolves. Like damn! I almost want to play them. Those heads are spectacular, and doggos and shields for days. I'm genuinely happy for SW players- I won't even whine about Marine saturation. But again, Not in my future.

I like the servitors, but wanted an Ogryn servitor. The Ravenors are good as far as Ravenors go... But they've never been my favourite unit, and if I'm gonna Tyranid, there are other models I need/ want WAY more. I like the variety of pieces of Tyranid terrain, but I think they should all be bigger.

I like the Ksons automata a lot, and the box is very useful- not a Tzaangor in sight. If I was a Nurgle guy, that would be a great box too.

I am STOKED about Karanak's return! The doggo that would not die! Of course, happy as it makes me, it isn't a model release, so not the big shiny.

And as a result, sort of a lackluster preview for me personally. Nothing in the roadmap looks like Drukhari, and I'm worried.

On one level hyped for the new Eightbound. On another disappointed by the lack of Berzerker Surgeon. Rest of the Chaos stuff seemed solid.

Anyone get screen shots of the Chaos boxes?

Cathay by far wins the showing for today. The Cathayan Sentinel looks sick and I'm surprised at how much of their range they showed. Even their standard infantry for the Jade Lancers and Warriors look great, so I can only imagine how the other units will look like once they start adding in more to the army.

I watched the whole thing at Chemistry class at Uni.

I had plenty naysayers locally but there they are, Cathay! Holy Molly! They look amazing! Sentinels are peak! The whole army are quality! Lanterns are still the silliest thing ever!

They haven't confirmed the metal Forest Dragon. Here's high on hopium and dreamium it's not coming back and they making a new one, similar to the one from Total Warhammer.

1KSons metal Ushabti are horrendous! I'd rather have nothing instead, they look like Happy Meal toys.

I prefer the baby carrier upgrade sprue, at least I do actually enjoy the Dreadknight, but GK can't take another edition without a refresh.

Speaking of, as a Wolf enjoyer I'm extatic, and those guys are only the contents of the army box, there's more to come! Fingers crossed my granddreads will still be kicking around!

Sorry Death Company players.

Also I don't know if there is going to be a Salamander Codex AND an Imperial Fists Codex or just a readjusted Space Marine Codex/Supplements.

Voss wrote:
eviserator

 PenitentJake wrote:
Raveners

streetsamurai wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Well that's understandable - its an entirely new and fresh army. To be fair Beastmen and Woodelves have quite a few fairly modern models to their name. Or at least which are not that old.

But yes Cathay and Kislev (eventually) had to come last. Honestly makes me really excited to see what comes after them and when we see GW hopefully turn to updating some older classic models with newer designs.

Beastmen?

Aren't their more recent release, bar a few characters, are the minotaurs which are what, 15 years old?

They still have that same horrible chariot.

I like the Wood Elf models, and the Battalion box looks nice. Except that I already have boatload of WE Archers.

So Grey Knights and Space Wolves teaming up again to fight Angron on Armageddon….

Setting the stage for Months of Shame 2 : Inquisitorial Boogaloo.

Also, Grey Knights not getting in on the Primaris action is disappointing.

At the earliest I'll see Imperial Knights in 2026.

And Grey Knight will still only have 1 Marine that's in scale with modern marines.

I was looking forward to buying GKs. Not anymore. Maybe next edition.

 CMLR wrote:
They haven't confirmed the metal Forest Dragon. Here's high on hopium and dreamium it's not coming back and they making a new one, similar to the one from Total Warhammer.

The forest dragon wasn't shown in the preview but the warcom article mentions it by name without showing off a picture:

The defense of the forests otherwise falls to the Nobles, who are required by oath to keep their domains free of intruders, and who ride out on Elven Steeds, Stags, Great Eagles, and even serpentine Forest Dragons to fulfil their duty.

Warhawk riders, mages, wardancers, and waywatchers are in the same "mentioned but not pictured" status.

 Coolyo294 wrote:

The forest dragon wasn't shown in the preview but the warcom article mentions it by name without showing off a picture:

No, it actually is present in the opening picture.

I want to throw up.

Looks like they took all the figures from Total War: Warhammer 3 for Cathy.

A smart choice.


Space Wolves look quite good!

Love how the new Blood Claws have Primaris armour but don’t have those edges on the knees. Great for making retro true scale Marines!

 Malika2 wrote:
Love how the new Blood Claws have Primaris armour but don’t have those edges on the knees. Great for making retro true scale Marines!

It's because is not Tacticus armor

What niche does Cathay fit?
It doesn't seem to replace any of the Legends armies.

So far: Heavy cav, heavy infantry, large cannon and a rocket launcher, giant equivalent and a hot air balloon and dragon

Seems Empire with heavy infantry and a giant equivalent.

I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on High Elves for TOW, as Cathay definitely is going to be my second army for that, if I get a second army, that is. The models, from the heroes and big stuff right down to the basic line troops, are all amazing! I'm definitely gonna have to do something about my storage situation though, or more likely I'm gonna have to sell some stuff to make room.

New Raveners look awesome, and I think I'm gonna need some for my Tyranids. The Servitors from that set look pretty cool too, but I'm not really interested in AdMech for myself.

New Chaos stuff looks a bit meh. DG and WE each get a boring character, and Tsons get a pair of...robots.

I like what little they spoiled about the new 40k season cards, but I'm concerned that once again I just won't be able to come up with a set of them. Hopefully they've learned and will have enough of them to go around. But then this is GW we're talking about, so hope is probably the first step on the road to disappointment.

Mod edit - removed, please don't be so crude and vulgar. Not a single new model revealed. None. Bupkis. The spearhead boxes are nice, but they are just bundles of existing models. I guess technically the new Spearhead kit might have some new terrain in it, but I'm not sure if I even count that.

Overall I'm glad there's not that much out there that I care about coming down the line, as it means that my hobby money can be saved up for Cathay, if in fact I decide to go ahead with them. Not sure when they'll release, but I hope it's late summer at the earliest so I have time to prepare.

I'm actually wondering what the stat difference will be with the new Dreadknight weapons, or if it will just be "generic CCW". As it stands we will have the options of: Fists, Sword, Hammer, mace, flail. I'm kinda wondering how hard it would be to have a holstered flail tucked into the dreadknight's "belt" like some mall-ninja kid from the late 90's.

Sorry, am I being thick ? Are there images of any of this? I’ve seen something on Reddit but it doesn’t include everything being discussed.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/or72z0uw/every-reveal-from-the-warhammer-preview-show-at-adepticon-2025/

Coming for you right from warcom

New Sand and Stone release is one of the most pathetic I've seen from any wargaming company.

Cathay looks very cool, but a major pain to paint.

Other stuff looks cool. Space wolves look great. I just wish they would do some of them with asiatic features, maybe some heavier body types. There are always white guys and black guys, but never Asian heads. You can see GW can sculpt them well from the Cathay release. Why no Asian heads in the Space Wolves?

I really love that they're dialing way back on the wolf aspect for the new models, back to more generic marine armor with a few talismans or sigils here and there. It's like a modern take on the 3rd ed Space Wolf upgrade sprue, and I'm all over that. They're leaving the truly wolfed out models for the characters and elites, and even then it's leaning more into the fantasy viking look, as it should. And the heads THE HEADS! Oh, they're glorious! Exactly what SW heads should have always been instead of the awful tripe we got in 5th ed. If we get a proper Long Fangs kit with beards over the chestplate like the bald Wolf Priest then I'll be over the moon, but these are better than anything we've gotten in years!

Was not expecting Cathay any time soon, those are amazing looking. I've been waiting a long while for Wargames Atlantic Warring States troops, but these may fit my project even better. Gonna be hard not turning them into a full army.

I've been a defender of the old GW models coming back, but GW sure is making that stance difficult when up against these designs. It's hardly fair to the Wood Elves that they reveal the old plastic Glade Guard alongside the Cathayan infantry

I think that's probably the best release I've seen for a while, nothing really looks like a dud.

Cathay looks great, Kill Team looks great. Votann on the horizon is very exciting! Hopefully still far away that I can continue to save money though...

 Kalamadea wrote:
I really love that they're dialing way back on the wolf aspect for the new models, back to more generic marine armor with a few talismans or sigils here and there. It's like a modern take on the 3rd ed Space Wolf upgrade sprue, and I'm all over that. They're leaving the truly wolfed out models for the characters and elites, and even then it's leaning more into the fantasy viking look, as it should. And the heads THE HEADS! Oh, they're glorious! Exactly what SW heads should have always been instead of the awful tripe we got in 5th ed. If we get a proper Long Fangs kit with beards over the chestplate like the bald Wolf Priest then I'll be over the moon, but these are better than anything we've gotten in years!

I think the Space Wolves look pretty good - I particularly like the Head Takers - although the basic troops are perhaps a little bland. The heads are, as you say, very nice indeed. I'm not sure that even the most impressive beardy heads could make the Desolation Squad look like proper Long Fangs, however. I hope we see a wolfed-out Redemptor, and a full-service upgrade sprue, with vehicle icons etc.

That said, it does feel as though Cathay stole the show this time. Easily the best-looking TOW army.

I was thinking that it might be cool if the servitor models were available to every Imperium and Chaos faction, since they all use them. I know that it will never happen, but it's an interesting thought.

 Gallahad wrote:
New Sand and Stone release is one of the most pathetic I've seen from any wargaming company.

Why? It's just a spearhead expansion?

What a second wave for World Eaters. Character for the new unit I hate, plus daemons. Bloody whoopee. Enjoy living in my wardrobe, Kharn.

Kill Team: Typhon and the new Tzeentch automata were the highlights for me. Some of the SW stuff looks pretty good, but I still hate Primaris so that cancels it out

An interesting preview show to say the least!

Cathay looks very decent, which is a surprise for me, as I don’t like the style. But the sculpts (especially the cannon) and general army appearance are winning me over. Didn’t expect them to get 3 massive kits either.
I do think they would look better in “evil” colours though

My lovely beastmen, I pray you come before wood elves and get something more, than just one new shaman (who admittedly looks pretty cool, and might even see play, considering he’s a lvl4, and maybe shenanigans with his familiar add some value). The battle force is lackluster, at least another 10 gors would sweeten the deal and cover the infantry need pretty much in all types of army builds other than horde. And we’re stuck with an ugly cygor/ghorhon. Mierce miniatures will get my money yet again.

Kill team - my favourite part of the show. Ravenours- awesome. Servitors- great.
I’m yet to pick up the wrecka krew, but damn - kill team is killing it (ha-ha…..)

 PenitentJake wrote:

I like the servitors, but wanted an Ogryn servitor.

Job's already done.

https://www.warhammer.com/en-CA/shop/Jotunn-H-grade-Servitor-Ogryns-2020?srsltid=AfmBOooEwwOKugI1MmBLLPtwP3mEEVI1JsZvmgdwEGUqIGDSczPk8i-_