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Question is in the title, I’m really curious about this. Due to the nature of chaos, would they enter the black rage near immediately? Or would Warp Corruption potentially alter their genes in a way that circumvents it? I’m very curious!
   
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We don't know.

With that said, I don't see why we should assume Chaos fixes it, unless "fixing" it is used by Chaos specifically to lure said BA into treachery (which totally would be something it'd do).

After all, traitor Space Wolves remain, well, wolfy, and so on.

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As a general rule, I'd think they keep it. It should certainly be possible for patron daemons to change it however they please, though.
   
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Turning to Chaos doesn't change an Astartes' genetic lineage, so yes, the Red Thirst and Black Rage are both still risks.
   
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But how would the Black Rage be directed in someone sympathetic to Horus?

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 Orkeosaurus wrote:
But how would the Black Rage be directed in someone sympathetic to Horus?
"Turned to Chaos" is not synonymous with "Sympathetic to Horus".

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 Orkeosaurus wrote:
But how would the Black Rage be directed in someone sympathetic to Horus?

It doesn't. If the Rage triggers, it's over for anyone around that Astartes.

If you can get a hold of Deathstorm it shows a really good example of the Black Rage. The Death Company still remember their names and that they are Blood Angels but think they are at the Siege of Terra fighting the hordes of the Warmaster. In the book they're on a world being invaded by Tyranids and their minds justify the Xenos as daemons, mutants or corrupted Astartes. They recognise their fellow Blood Angels but keep asking for them to follow Sanguinius in the strike on the Vengeful Spirit.

Being surrounded by troops wearing the marks of Chaos would just result in a very quick friendly fire incident before the ex-Angel is taken down.
   
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If you can rationalise a Nid as a corrupted Astartes? You can rationalise a corrupted Astartes as a fellow Son of Sanguinius.


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Except as has been noted, its only those of Sanguinius's lineage that are ever noticed as brothers by those in the throes of the Rage.

Imperial aligned soldiers don't get a pass because they are Ultramarines, Cadians or Martyred Lady. They die because they aren't Sons of Sanguinius and are clearly minions of the Warmaster. In the most severe state, every enemy is Horus himself and in the throes of the Rage, everything is an enemy.

If a member of the Death Company survives a battle, they're given the Emperor's Peace because they can't be relied on to not kill their brothers as well.
   
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I would imagine that if a Blood Angel turned to Chaos, the relevant god(s) would mess with the Flaw in a way they find useful and/or amusing.

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In my personal headcanon, DC get locked away between battles by the Chaplains, since given the modest number of 41st Millennium Astartes, giving surviving DC the Emperor's Peace would deplete DC to non-existent amounts in no time.

If that is official canon, its hella dumb.. then again, wouldn't be unsurprising all things considering. GW has never been good with numbers

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Unless you have a name; then you get put in stasis between battles, and even get turned into a Primaris!
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 tauist wrote:
In my personal headcanon, DC get locked away between battles by the Chaplains, since given the modest number of 41st Millennium Astartes, giving surviving DC the Emperor's Peace would deplete DC to non-existent amounts in no time.

If that is official canon, its hella dumb.. then again, wouldn't be unsurprising all things considering. GW has never been good with numbers


It's because DC appearances, like so many other things, are meant to be somewhat rare.

It would indeed be unsustainable if they had to cull a squad or so after every fight. But outbreaks seem to occur sporadically enough that the losses can be sustained.

It's like how Magnus appears only in the most pivotal battles in the lore, but attends every single last meaningless border skirmish in person in the game.

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Indeed, it's often a shock when one of the Sons of Sanguinius (Flesh Tearers excluded) falls to the Rage.

They are contained but only before they get deployed where they are fully expected to die.
   
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Yes. In Bloodquest, we see a Blood Angel corrupted by Chaos who keeps the Red Thirst, at the very least.

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 Ashiraya wrote:
We don't know.

With that said, I don't see why we should assume Chaos fixes it, unless "fixing" it is used by Chaos specifically to lure said BA into treachery (which totally would be something it'd do).

After all, traitor Space Wolves remain, well, wolfy, and so on.


Fixing it would just mean it dint kill the blood angel. I imagine this would happen by combining the black rage with a warp mutation. This would be an awesome character. A former blood angel turned demo. Prince that goes around drinking the blood of other space marines
   
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Yeah, that does sound flavourful.

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Khorne: looks at BA ripping & tearing its way through literally everyone around him.

Khorne: "I'm sorry, what am I supposed to fix here? He seems perfect as is."

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The Black Rage is basically a hallucination combined with the Marine having his mind taken over by echos of Sanguinious. Anything hostile that he sees is going to look like the Traitors during the siege of Terra. Chaos could easily just guide those hallucinations the way they want.

Such a Marine is probably going to kill both chaos and loyalists since Chaos probably won't be able to make chaos marines look like fellow Blood Angels, but it can probably make the Marine kill former comrades.

The Blood Angel Omnibus does kinda have this happen.

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