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A mate sent me these details that he'd got from a forum on 40kTerra? Don't know how reliable they are, but if they are, that's some interesting stuff to come out.

IG will be getting some form of jeep that will be a fast attack and lightly armed and armoured.

IG will be getting an open topped troop transport similar to an Ork Trukk

Heavy Stubber will now be an option for a Heavy Weapons Team coming in at 5pts.

Sentinels will be getting redone.

Guardsmen on bike will be reintroduced.

Chimera will be an available upgrade for any squad of infantry numbering 12 or less similar to the Ork squad upgrade.

Valhallans will be made available in plastic as will Death Korps of Krieg....


Sorry to ruin the happy feelings, but the Guard will also probably be losing their Doctrines....

grrr, just started my first sentinal, guess I'll hold off getting anymore.

I'd have thought a heavy stubebr would more likly come under specialist weapon squads myself.

Not that bothered about doctrines.

Jeep - has been suggested for years, has someone listened for once? open topped transport - maybe with the 5th concentrating on troops - static gunlines wont be as useful.

bikes - hmmm starting to seem like a lot of codex choices, will something get dropped to make room?

My incliniation is disbeleive, it sounds too much like my IG wish list to be true.

Plus thats 2-3 new plastic kits in addition to the others already rumored like storm troops and valkyries.

I hope, hope, hope it's true but disbelieve.

Well it sounds cool, not too sure about some of them though.

@ Kid_Kyoto - I thought that the plastic ST and valkyrie were going to be for Planetfall? If they are it opens up the possibility for these two new kits. Also, the two new ones might be one and the same, they sound similar.

well new guard codex is likely what, spring 2009? planetfall meant to be for the summer campaign ish time.. so rplastic valk and stormtroopers for about the same works...kinda

If there is an open topped vehicle, please let Ogryns fit in it. Please, oh, please. I'll buy at least two, and then buy another box of Ogre Bulls, I swear.

That really does sound too good to be true. More Salt please.

OH holy emporer I'm hoping this is true, not so much sentinals being redone, or this jeep thing, but plastic valhallans and dkok yeah baby!! i spose the only thing we can do is wait......

LL

One would hope the bikes are updated Rough Riders, and the only truly unlikely bit to this is plastic Death Korps of Krieg. They are very recent and a cash cow for Forgeworld.

Here's hoping for more info before I buy a bunch of the new scout bikes for Rough Riders. Real IG bikes would work better.

I believe Phil Kelly or JJ have already debunked the plastic trenchcoat guard rumour.

Jeeps, bikes, and holey lord plastic Valhallans. Sounds to good to be true but if so the Orks may collect a bit of dust.

well I was gonna make some landspeeder jeep conversions to count as sentinels... guess I better hold off

The fast attack transport might mean a plastic Centaur.

Capt K

As much as i would love this stuff... it really does sound just to good to be true...

Through i really do have my fingers crossed for some new plastic infantry, mainly cause collecting death korp is killing my wallet

Wolfstan wrote:
Chimera will be an available upgrade for any squad of infantry numbering 12 or less similar to the Ork squad upgrade.

Variable squad size? I have trouble believing that one, though it makes sense to do away with Armored Fists, and give any Infantry unit Chimera options.

Instead of a fast attack jeep, I'd love it if they made a plastic Salamander with Overcharged Engines.

I'm not sure I believe IG would get an open-topped transport... for what reason? So they can assault? Also, I can't see them getting both a Valkyrie and another new transport to go along with the Chimera.

It does make sense to have IG Bikers though to be used like Rough Riders, and they can probably use the SM Scout Bike sprue they have just created.

It would be pretty cool for IG to have an open topped truck like the WW2 "flat bed with a hood" things they used to move troops around. Not a fighting vehicle like the Chimera, just a cheap little scooty thing. Give it AV 7-9 all around, make it a fast vehicle and price it at 15-20 points, and you might have a winner. (Points based on an assumed reduction in Chimera points cost.) It would be made of sheet aluminium, but it would get the troops somewhere quickly, which is pretty much all you need for those points.

If the DE Raider doesn't have an AV less than 10, no vehicle is going to. The IG open-topped transport, if it ever comes to pass, is going to be AV 10/10/10, probably, with the Chimera at 12/11/10.

15-20 points still sounds about right, given that Rhinos these days are 35 points.

Yeah, reads like a wishlist.

Stubber I can see appearing on a re-cut Cadian sprue that includes plastic Meltas and Plasmas.

Jeep? I dunno.

Sentinels? Of course. Re-cut sprue with Lascannon, Autocannon and Heavy Flamer along side the Multi-Laser.

Valhallans and DKoK? No. Just no. They wouldn't give us two more plastic infantry kits.

Bike Guardsmen? If they're something to replace Rough Riders, then maybe. I'd prefer new Rough Riders though.

Why would we need another transport?

BYE

FAV anyone? I know this would be too much to hope for:

"Valhallans and DKOK in plastic" means this is just a wishlist. How long has the greatcoat guard been a rumor? Seven, eight years now?

An open-topped transport for IG would be hilarious. Ork can stand to use it because they're assault troops anyway. Guard? :lol:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah, reads like a wishlist.

Stubber I can see appearing on a re-cut Cadian sprue that includes plastic Meltas and Plasmas.

Jeep? I dunno.

Sentinels? Of course. Re-cut sprue with Lascannon, Autocannon and Heavy Flamer along side the Multi-Laser.

Valhallans and DKoK? No. Just no. They wouldn't give us two more plastic infantry kits.

Bike Guardsmen? If they're something to replace Rough Riders, then maybe. I'd prefer new Rough Riders though.

Why would we need another transport?

BYE

"They wouldn't give us two more plastic infantry kits." Why not? Only Cadia and Catachan is plastic,they could decide
to turn troop choice to plasitc kits and give up the older metal ones. Guard needs more than two schemes to design
its variety. With DKoK they have WW1,with Valhalla WW2,with Catachan 1960,with Cadia 1990. Four different bases
to make your own guard regiment .

I don't know why you couldn't have a vehicle with AV<10. I could see the value in an open topped guard vehicle with Fast and AV9 say. It can be torn apart by bolter fire, but lasgun would only likely stop it. The guys inside could rapid fire out at full effect, and be protected from at least one unit's shooting. Alternately they could park it and fire out, then rush to take a position or reposition.

I am not saying it is likely, just possible, and really cool the more I think of it.

All I can say is that if we get Plastic Valks, and Greatcoat guard, Im taking out a second mortgage for a 10kpt guard army!

Armour under 10 : book "chapter approved:the fourth book of the astronomican" (2003)
page 61 = ruleset for vehicle construction : armour min = 9 max = 14.
You could already field a AV 9 truck May transport 11 human-sized creatures.

I could see the Sentinel kits being re-cut to add all four weapon options, and maybe an armored crew compartment. I'd be surprised at other new vehicles, though.

Please Please Please, an IG "Warthog" with a single BS 3 Assault Cannon on top.

Durandal wrote:Please Please Please, an IG "Warthog" with a single BS 3 Assault Cannon on top.

You mean a Puma?

That would be sweet.

Wolfstan wrote:IG will be getting some form of jeep that will be a fast attack and lightly armed and armoured.

IG will be getting an open topped troop transport similar to an Ork Trukk

Heavy Stubber will now be an option for a Heavy Weapons Team coming in at 5pts.

Sentinels will be getting redone.

Guardsmen on bike will be reintroduced.

Chimera will be an available upgrade for any squad of infantry numbering 12 or less similar to the Ork squad upgrade.

Valhallans will be made available in plastic as will Death Korps of Krieg....

So, pretending these are true:

IG "Jeep" Transport? Are IG not fragile enough that they need lots of vehicles that die when you breathe on them?

Heavy Stubber option makes sense, and is probably quite playable with the new S4 Defensive Weapons change. Thankfully, I have lots of HS bitz, but now I'm worried I may "need" a lot more for Hull HS *and* PMHS..

Sentinels with a new plastic upgrade sprue with the Autocannon, Lascannon, Heavy Flamer, and Multi-Melta make sense to stop producing metal upgrade bitz. Especially if also including the Armored Cab.

Biker Guardsmen would seem kind of useless if they're not Troops or new Rough Riders - what's the point?

Chimera being generally available is obvious, but the key will be in pricing. If priced as current, they won't be playable. If priced below a BS4 Razorback, they'll be OK.

Greatcoat Guard with Valhallan and DKoK heads have been rumored for a while. Let's hope for long coats, not short ASL coats when these finally come out. But while greatcoat guard will look good compared to Cadians, they won't address the need for a Cameoline-cloaked light infantry regiment (Tanith / Tallarn). And please, let these be properly down-sized puny compared to a Marine or Ork.

I hope the "Bike Riding Rough Riders" rumor turns out to be true, though I'd love confirmation *before* buying the new Marine Scout bikers to convert into RR's.

Maybe it is a way to make DKoK Death Riders unique? Drive up some more ForgeWorld sales?

Either way, I'm all for Bike Riding RR's.

1hadhq wrote:Why not?

Simple money reasons.

Plastic moulds are expensive. Producing two lines of infantry that are the same in-game, but just look different aesthetically, would be bad business. I can see them maybe doing one generic 'long-coat' infantry style, but not two separate kits.

BYE