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2009/03/19 13:06:42
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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This might be the worst thing that I've ever read. It's things like this that make me lose all hope in humanity. As Newt would say in Aliens, "They say there's not monsters, but there are."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090319/ts_nm/us_austria_incest
The 73-year-old Austrian, who fathered seven children with daughter Elisabeth, has pleaded guilty to incest, rape, enslavement and murder, by neglect, in the death of an infant son born underground in 1996.
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2009/03/19 13:13:47
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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We've been following this in Europe for around a year now.
Quite depressing the amount of nutters out there. Seems that the verdict is due any moment now (BBC News just said the Reporters and Public have been allowed back in to the court room).
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2009/03/19 13:30:22
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Guilty on all counts (as he plead, though not initially on the Murder and another one).
Sentenced to life in a secure mental unit. Hardly seems fair really.
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2009/03/19 13:33:17
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As long as he's not free in society, I don't care where they hide him away.
Considering the nature of his crime, I think there's a real arguement that he had to be insane to do it in the same way that Ted Bundy 'had to be insane' to commit his crimes. My guess is that the Austrian is not mentally fit and healthy, but also not criminally insane. He covered up and hid his crime.
What's the story with his wife? She helped raise 3 of the children. She must have known what was going on.
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2009/03/19 13:36:45
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Some say so, but I'm not terribly sure.
He explained his Daughter's disappearance by claiming she'd run off to join a Commune. When the kids were born, he'd take them upstairs and claim that the Daughter had abandoned them on the doorstep.
Even a Lodger in the house didn't notice. It's a shocker to be sure.
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2009/03/19 13:48:47
Subject: Re:Worst thing a father could ever do
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Let my wife have him. She'll know what to do.
The phrase "Go Midieval on his ass," comes to mind.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2009/03/19 13:56:20
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I can't believe it took this long for this story to cross the atlantic. I'm not sure if it's been a year already, but I'm sure it was at least 6 months ago.
And fraz, I don't think midieval would quite cover what that guy deserves.
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2009/03/19 14:24:42
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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As much as the logical part of my brain believes that the justice system should be above the base human instincts for vindictive revenge and that life imprisonment in a mental institution is the best thing all round for this nutter, there is a part of me that wants to see him thrown to a pack of rabid badgers.
I can't even comprehand the mindset of this man. Actually that’s probably a good thing.
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2009/03/19 14:31:55
Subject: Re:Worst thing a father could ever do
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Beyond %^&*() up isn't it.
Still.... Austrarian soundproofing technology must be awesome stuff indeed.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/03/19 14:32:44
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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For those of us worrying about our own moral values, I think it is highly reassuring when you can be this disgusted!
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2009/03/19 14:34:47
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think it's a good thing if you can't understand how someone could do this.
I'm sure it's been on this side of the Atlantic before, just the first that I saw of it.
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In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer |
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2009/03/19 14:50:51
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Major
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Incidently I remeber a letter in that great British institution Viz magazine that was printed just after the deatails emerged about 6 months ago which went somthing along these lines:
"I dont see what all the fuss is about, the last time an Austrian kept his familly hidden the basement it was turned into one of the most well loved family musicals of all time."
I laughed, I felt slightly evil for doing so, but I still laughed.
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2009/03/19 14:58:03
Subject: Re:Worst thing a father could ever do
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Viz is good/bad for that.
WHEN I make comments about the size of Britney Spears's tits and women not making good pilots, my girlfriend accuses me of being sexist. Yet when I punch her in the face she starts ranting and raving about it being wrong to hit a lass. The hypocrisy of it all dumbfounds me.
M. Hobson, Whitley Bay
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/03/19 22:20:22
Subject: Re:Worst thing a father could ever do
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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reds8n wrote:Beyond %^&*() up isn't it.
Still.... Austrarian soundproofing technology must be awesome stuff indeed.
One of the curious points about the case is that the cellar wasn't sound proofed. Also, he had to keep buying food for lots of people while claiming that there was only him and his wife in the house.
There are a lot of loose ends not tied up. And I expect they never will be.
Still, every nation has a (hopefully small) number of disturbed individuals. When talking about mental illness and crime it is difficult sometimes to imagine that someone who can function fully within normal society is doing something so weird and depraved at home that it boggles any normal person to find out. Are they mad or just very bad?
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2009/03/19 22:57:23
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
The Realms of the Unreal, of the Glandeco-Angelinnian War Storm, Caused by the Child Slave Rebellion
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dietrich wrote:
I'm sure it's been on this side of the Atlantic before, just the first that I saw of it.
Odd story, my roommate found a picture of this guy online by typing "creepy old guy" into a search engine while looking for an image to make into an avatar. However he didn't bother to read the story that went with the image. So he did a creepy digital painting of the guy and made it his avatar on another site. Last night I came across this story and told him what the guy did. My roommates is currently looking for a new avatar. 
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2 - The hobbiest - The guy who likes the minis for what they are, loves playing with painted armies, using offical mini's in a friendly setting. Wants to play on boards with good terrain.
Devlin Mud is cheating.
More people have more rights now. Suck it.- Polonius
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2009/03/20 00:14:38
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Scouting Shade
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I don't believe in the death penalty, but locking this guy up until he dies in 10-20 years somehow doesn't seem fair considering the torture he committed. He raped hsi daughter over 3000 times according to BBC news... this is about as low a human being can get.
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2009/03/20 10:53:57
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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It wouldn't be execution. It would be pest control.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2009/03/20 12:26:10
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Frazzled, you take the words out of my mouth.
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2009/03/20 12:47:24
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Well this upsets me to the core,I don't really get how he could be so cruel as to lock his daughter in the cellar for basically her whole life and rape her and then father children by her.One more chilling thing is the vid of him on holiday having a good time while his daughter was locked in the basment.Oh and I think a nuthouse is where he should be!!!
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
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2009/03/20 12:51:09
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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As stated before, the fact you get it shows you are not a monster.
Nut-no not a nut. There is EVIL in this world. This is just one of them, not found running a concentration camp.
Bleed him, preferably Old Testament style.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2009/03/20 14:35:56
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Preacher of the Emperor
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Sentenced to life in a secure mental unit. Hardly seems fair really.
I wonder if they could make his 'secure mental unit' to the exact specifications of the prison he created; maybe add some strobes?
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Gwar! wrote:Debate it all you want, I just report what the rules actually say. It's up to others to tie their panties in a Knot. I stopped caring long ago.
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2009/03/20 16:48:57
Subject: Re:Worst thing a father could ever do
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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I like how the Austrians handled this, in the Uk the press would have been demanding their rights and would have posted faces for all to see. Names concealed yes, but what fat use is that.
Sometimes in camera is best.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2009/03/21 05:52:09
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Skink Chief with Poisoned Javelins
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There are worse people out there.
Unfortunately.
He does deserve that pack of rabid badgers.
Also, I believe the word is Austrian, not Austrarian. You sound like a drunk person trying to say Australian.
ungulateman
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One means the Mechanicum truly loses their gak, and the other means the Eldar realize that Vaul is really a toaster and experience religion fail.
Techmarine Mario and Brother Adept Luigi to the rescue !
I think it is a small fraction of Jesus worshiping Christians who have psychic powers.
Join the Church of the Children of Turtle Pie
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2009/03/21 06:01:18
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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ungulateman wrote:There are worse people out there.
Really? I cannot think of a single worse thing someone could do.
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2009/03/21 06:10:47
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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hmmm.....
What do people consider mentally insane?
was he incapable of making normal daily judgments
or was just his way of thinking so **** up that we just assume he is insane?
Honestly, to be able to hide his act for SO LONG , oh please .... he is by all means sane and pretty smart too.
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2009/03/21 07:18:35
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Dakka Veteran
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But that's scary, that smart people can be so evil, you would expect them to know better
That's why the holocaust is scary, smart people manipulating others to do evil
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2009/03/21 20:56:00
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Why do you think smart people are better? They are just better at covering it up.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2009/03/21 21:26:21
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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The worst thing is, he could possibly be out within fourteen years after what he's done, if he responds well to therapy. What the feth?
sA
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My Loyalist P&M Log, Irkutsk 24th
"And what is wrong with their life? What on earth is less reprehensible than the life of the Levovs?"
- American Pastoral, Philip Roth
Oh, Death was never enemy of ours!
We laughed at him, we leagued with him, old chum.
No soldier's paid to kick against His powers.
We laughed - knowing that better men would come,
And greater wars: when each proud fighter brags
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2009/03/21 21:33:01
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Yup. Pest control. No rabid badgers. Just a nice walk in the sun, maybe a siggy in front of a wall. With a bunch of holes in it.
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2009/03/21 21:47:54
Subject: Worst thing a father could ever do
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Seriosly out in fourteen years?
I am generally against the death penalty
but in some cases what's the point in letting them live?
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