What 40k army is most in need of an update?

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**legoburner**

As requested by lukeslayerh3. Multiple choice answers are allowed.

**Clthomps**

Dark Eldar! We seriously have not had a codex / model update in over ten years.

**Sha1emade**

Necrons. Mostly because of the limited options. WBB problems. Older model range. Dark eldar might be older but have had a few mini updates along the way. They need a massive revision. I would say crons would be an easier fix then the DE as most of the product line would or could remain in tact with the crons.

I play crons....do you really need a better reason.

**R3con**

sisters please...I'd like to use the other things in my codex besides SoB Saraphims and Exorsists =)

**Karoline Dianne**

Dark Eldar.

I don't play them, but not having a new codex in over ten years is a little off. It also annoys me when an army still uses rules that don't exist anymore, and have been replaced for good reason.

Necrons work fine right now, but they'd be the next in line for revision.

After them, we need a traitor-guard codex. Lost and the Damned or whatnot...

That's just my opinion, though.

**DX3**

Dark Eldar. For real.. get to it already!

**Da Blak Gobbo**

I ended up saying Necron's over Dark Eldar because they Need an update to make them somewhat competitive and generally flow better while the Dark Eldar are doing fine with the latest version of the rules but are a close 2nd.

Who said Marines need an update?!? Really?

**dumbuket**

Orks. They're 3rd tier after all.

**H.B.M.C.**

Chaos Marines - to make them back into actual Chaos Marines, not naughty Ultramarines w/Spikes.

Chaos Daemons - to erase the Codex from history and put its units into the Chaos Marine Codex.

Dark Eldar - 10 years without a Codex is bad.

Necrons - They don't work in 5th Ed.

Tyranids - Ditto.

Tau/Eldar - Written for a different ruleset.

**forchoas**

Black templars please lol

**Granesh**

Everybody knows the Guard needs the biggest update....kidding, its either:
Dark Eldar: 10+ years for an update is wrong, even if the creepy fluff sucks...
Daemonhunters: I'm a Guard player, allied Daemonhunters would rock with an update, especially with
the release of the Daemon codex.

**WD40**

Tyranids and Necrons can still perform well IMO, and dark eldar are fine. (not saying the above dont need the update, but...) Tau suck so bad.

**djphranq**

Space Marines... hands down... they need something like 2+ armor/cover/inv save whenever they are on a table top with ap 1 guns that shoot 72''... and something like 20 attacks... you know... things to bring it up to speed

**Fafnir**

Accidentally only marked Daemonhunters. Forgot about DE.

Anyway, Daemonhunters really need the update more then most, simply because they're just so... *sigh*

At least DE can still be competetive without Land Raider spam.

**Cryonicleech**

DE, Inq and SW's.

They REALLY need it.

**JEB_Stuart**

Definitely DE, Tau, Crons and DH. I don't play DE, but no update in 10 years is just bad....Bad GW, Bad GW!

**Lawbringer**

I had to say Squats, please don't beat me!

To be honest they if can't deal with 12 races they should drop the number no good having a live race if it basicly unplayable because you have no rules for it.

Personally i'd throw all the forces for chaos including DE together.

leaving:

Good:
SM
IG
Tau
Eldar (are they good?)
Sisters and Deamonhunters (combine)

Bad:
Orks
Nid's
Forces of Chaos
Necrons

**Sanguine Sympathy**

Lawbringer, there is no such thing as good or bad in 40k, there have been many discussions over this, but the end-result is that most races are morally neutral. Secondly, Dark Eldar are not aligned with the forces of chaos at all. Chaos eats eldar, spiky or not. I agree with merging the codices for the inquisitorial forces, but leave the divided space marines, and the chaos space marines/daemons split (but let them ally)

IMO DE, Inquisitorial, and Nerfedcrons need the biggest updates.

**Darkwulf**

Dark Eldar cause the codex is so far beheind the rules its virtually unplayable...

**sieek**

???
Dark eldar unplayable?
i don't quite agree.
i play them again (after a 7 year pause) since the beginning of 5th ed and i don't have any problems.
the codex is imo one of the most balanced ones there are.

**Great Unclean One**

Dark eldar and necrons, STOP THE BLANDNESS!

**littleboyblues**

7 votes so far for space marines... Really?! The only thing I'd change is give us close combat weapons... apperently a sword is ancient technology long lost by the emporers finest and only chaos can use such complex things of old.

**starbomber109**

The dark eldar codex has bits in it from the freakin' third edition rules, it desperately needs an update.

I think people just want them to nerf the ultrasmurf special characters as an 'update'....probably.

Necrons could use an update, but not as badly as Dark Eldar

**kanelom**

yeah the whole DE situation is fairly ridiculous. Just look at their HQ selections vs the Space Marine options and you get an idea of how pathetic the situation has become. Necrons aren't lagging far behind.. but really some Inquisitorial-fleshing-out would be badly needed as well hey? Maybe lumping the SoB's in with the Ordo Hereticus? Releasing a bitz box to convert regular guardsmen into stormtroopers without having to flop you're life savings on metal miniatures. At least til a decent plastics box comes out. Ordo Xenos? you've already got em in the Nid Hating Ultrasmurfs with their fancy hellfire rounds or watever.. but yeah. those would be top three..
What does everyone think about lumping SoB's in as part of a massive Inq Codex? epic win or epic fail?

**PanzerSmurf**

A few things...

Dark Eldar, most definately.
Necrons, them neo-undead buggers need it too.
SW's... They're getting a new one, no biggie there
Inquisition, they need it.
CSM, because I WANT MY LEGIONS BACK! (sorry for the caps...)

**papakeef**

eldar, only cos i want solitaires back. sob.

**Jimi Nemesis**

DE can still be played competitively (spelling) but need new models

merge the =I= forces and bring out plastics for them

Crons need help

Codex: Chaos Legions need to be brought out...

**ShadowAngel159**

PanzerSmurf wrote:A few things...

Dark Eldar, most definately.
Necrons, them neo-undead buggers need it too.
SW's... They're getting a new one, no biggie there
Inquisition, they need it.
CSM, because I WANT MY LEGIONS BACK! (sorry for the caps...)

QFT. I too want my legions back.

**Lord-Loss**

7 votes for SM. I loled.

**nyyman**

Dark Eldar and Necrons. Then would be Tau, maybe Tyranids and Black Templars, Sisters of Battle and Daemonhunters.
Who really voted Spashh Mariins and treadheads? I really hope they were joking -_-