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BrassScorpion wrote:This poll was started 2009/08/18, so why is it still popping up as a current poll on the site's front page? "Daemonhunters" don't even exist under that name any longer and Dark Eldar are now more than six months past their update. Shouldn't this thread be retired and perhaps replaced by a newer, up to date poll on this topic?

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the results are stuffed because of the updates that have been since too.

Oh I agree Brass, that's why I'll say the army that needs updateing is...Squats! *ducks and runs* /jk

But nah I'd honestly like to see the daemons dex and the csm dex remerged, and undo the taint of the current chaos dex.

I agree with Squats, but i aint running for cover.

Other: Black Templars

Poll needs to obviously be restarted, seeing as dark eldar are in top 2, yet they were released before the last.

I'm not reading 6 pages of posts. Did someone say "squats" yet?

edit: lolz, 2 posts before me 2 people said it

If squats doesn't count then i'll go with imperial agents, or if people want specifics, either mechanicus or arbites.

If you want to talk about one that they'll really make, then I would have to go with black templar.

I voted for Necrons Tau and CSM but I gotta agree after reading that DE hasn't had an update in 10 years, they should probably get one too, but from the few DE players I've gone up against, I kind of wonder, what would be so different as they're already pretty competitive?

I need new tau! the choices are so limited for me. I'm sick of having I2! All of the vehicle chassies are the same! F the necrons, no one plays them! TAU TAU TAU TAU!!!!!!
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Sorry, psycho moment there. Necrons are cool (ish)

yes tau haven't had an update in a while. i want to see if they can come up with any thing else having to do with tau. the veichles are outdated too.

Tau and Necrons. Seriously.

Other Dark angels and Black Templars merged. Kinda like Codex Angels of Death in 2nd edition.

Also bring back jinking and other rules that made DA unique.

Doctadeth wrote:Other Dark angels and Black Templars merged. Kinda like Codex Angels of Death in 2nd edition.

Also bring back jinking and other rules that made DA unique.

That would be cool, would love to get Intractable back

I would just like the point costs, wargear and unit options to be bough into line with the likes of Space Wolves, Blood Angels and Vanilla Marines.


If you build the same list with C: SM and C: DA, the DA list will be upwards of 200pts more with very few differences.

Necrons mother ing necrons

I actually voted for Grey Knights (Daemonhunters) as welll as Necrons. They need to be toned down a notch and be given more than 4 models to choose from!

SQUATS!!!

In light of the poll's age, i'm going to go ahead and give a vague generic answer:

The oldest codex.

Necrons. Seems that there's not a lot of people using them these days due to the outdated codex from what i've heard

Necrons. 5th edition took a big chunk out of their Gauss rules and We'll Be Back is nothing now. And it certainly doesn't help that aside from Destroyers their army sorely lacks speed which has become an aspect of the game that most armies need to consider to remain competitive. With 5th edition we saw foot slogging Marine armies begin to die off which was fine... they can take Rhinos and things. But Necrons can't and as it stands now it's far too easy to just run circles around them and pick them off at one's leisure.

I also think Chaos Marines could stand to have SOMETHING done about them. For a while there they were really hot gak but now they're more bland than Codex Marines but they're still very playable.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Chaos Marines - to make them back into actual Chaos Marines, not naughty Ultramarines w/Spikes.

Chaos Daemons - to erase the Codex from history and put its units into the Chaos Marine Codex.

Dark Eldar - 10 years without a Codex is bad.

Necrons - They don't work in 5th Ed.

Tyranids - Ditto.

Tau/Eldar - Written for a different ruleset.

+1 this entire post

The Tau/Eldar comment had me in stitches. Comedy is so much better when there is an element of truth in it.

I said CSM for selfish reasons, but oldest should get revamped first, so Tau.
(though if Chaos Legions came out tomorrow I doubt I'd be upset...)

Black Templar, at least from a model line standpoint. Templars only have 4 actual models of their own, 2 of which are special characters and another is nigh unplayable, the final of which is the Emperor's Champion.

It's about time that Templar players don't have to pay upwards of 70 dollars just for one squad of true Templars (if you buy the upgrade sprues). Even just the release of a Grey Hunters-style box set for Black Templar would be appreciated.

Black Templars!

Squats.

/thread.

I think that the Dark Angels need an update to bring them up to par with the Space Marines.

No more power creep on the Space Marines! It would be crazy, Dark Angels would get Free Power swords for everyone or some such nonsense. Bear in mind I'm a Marine player but think that the Marines need to be shelved for a year or two because the rest of the races are suffering from lack of attention. I think the Tau might have snuffed it, nobody from GW thought to check in on them and see they are alive? They got all lonely and took their own lives.

Just get everyone who's not on their 5th codex(Orks, Chaos Marines, Tau, Eldar) updated and ready to be competitive enough to go into 6th edition so they wont get LoL Raped by Marine armies. Its sad when most of the leader boards are filled with Grey Knights and other Marine Equivalent.

Dark Eldar are perfect right now. Theyre a well balanced army with their latest update.. They use blitzkrieg tactics and abilities as their defense/offense like no other.

Orks need to have some stuff switch up a bit, for example: Ghazhkull needs to be cheaper if GW isnt going to update his rules. He needs to come with a good invulnerable save bare minimum and fearless would be nice. I swear for his current price he's hella to expensive compared to the abilities of Marine hero's. Ghazhkull isnt scared like Gorgutz; who's scared as gak if it looks like he might loose, He likes to start a huge Waaagh! and then tells his subordinates to mop up the rest while he goes off to start another Waaagh!

And Im sure their are just as notable short comings in the Tau, Eldar, and Chaos Marine codex's.

Bring the squats back !
And then give the orks a real codex. The current one is just bizarre
Also this poll needs a reboot...

Agreed, this poll *really* needs to die now.

Dear GW

Please leave the ork codex as it is.... thank you (Well mabye 5 points per ork, lets me put 120 points somewhere else!)

Chaos.

As the core Bad Guy of the 40k universe, they sure don't get much attention.

Well Chaos are still playable at least. Tau do need help, and I've heard that eldar, DA and BT need help too. Rumers say that they are not that far away... .hopefully.