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Well, Dark Eldar is the obvious choice, but I selected other.

The Traitor Legions need special rules. I want to bring my Death Guard out of protest exile.

ZeroOP wrote:Necrons, not only because I play them, I also checked DE and Tau.


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Gareson wrote:Aren't Tau operating under a 5th edition codex- haven't they been updated?(sorry, a relative noob just making sure)

They have not been updated. I believe so far it's just Space Marines, Imperial Guard & Orks, Possibly Chaos Daemons too. Someone please quote this and correct me for sure... Who's 5th Ed?

Not daemons, chaos sphess murienz. Otherwise you're right.

Accusing DE of not needing an update simply because their codex is incidentally competitive in 5th ed is not acceptable... By that logic, no army needs an update.

We might see viable DE armies, but they all use the same few units... It's like Nidzilla. Functional, but very lame that there are so many other units in the codex that are so incredibly not worth using. And even if their rules and units were all useful, the models alone put them at the top of the list for an update... GWs neglect of DE is the stuff of legends beyond extraordinary. It has turned the army into the shame of 40k with their atrocious models, shallow fluff, and rules that need to be filtered and translated just to make sense in 5th edition. Just fething do it already...

Space Marine Chapters with seperate codex: Space Wolves,Black Templars.
Should "out dated codex" still be sold to game stores by GW as current. -ie: Black Templars ?

The imperial guard, we need more brokeness.

I like the SoB army codex. It is playable but the assault troops suck.
Sisters Repentia have to make their way across the board to the combat. Survive the first hit; then they are deadly. As long as the player can get good dice rolls.

Seraphim need a higher STR to wound. Yes, I can see that with melta bombs assaulting a non moving vehicle is effective.

I'm not playing them but I pity the poor DE armies..

As well, I'd like some new things about the Daemonhunters & Witch Hunters...

And most of all: THE LOST AND THE DAMNED!!!!!

crazypsyko666 wrote:

ZeroOP wrote:Necrons, not only because I play them, I also checked DE and Tau.


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Gareson wrote:Aren't Tau operating under a 5th edition codex- haven't they been updated?(sorry, a relative noob just making sure)

They have not been updated. I believe so far it's just Space Marines, Imperial Guard & Orks, Possibly Chaos Daemons too. Someone please quote this and correct me for sure... Who's 5th Ed?

Not daemons, chaos sphess murienz. Otherwise you're right.

Actually only Guard and SM are 5th ed with SW coming out in October

I voted Tau as (I play) the rules as written are so bad a blind man with no hands could write them better, then DE for after 10 years is sad (bad GW, bad, stop it, stop it, stop it.)
Inquisition really only need plastics and assault vehicles on LRs

Even being relatively new to 40k, from what I have seen so far of the Necrons, Inquistion, and DE (armies I considered starting for my second) I was turned off by their outdated dexes and outdated models :(, despite the fact I would have loved to play them for fluff and overall coolness. I think these 4 armies from what I have heard, read, and seen need a big update, followed quickly by the 4th ed codices.

So the DE codex has been out for 10 years? Seems silly that they haven't been updated at all in that span of time...

soulbender32 wrote:Even being relatively new to 40k, from what I have seen so far of the Necrons, Inquistion, and DE (armies I considered starting for my second) I was turned off by their outdated dexes and outdated models :(, despite the fact I would have loved to play them for fluff and overall coolness. I think these 4 armies from what I have heard, read, and seen need a big update, followed quickly by the 4th ed codices.

So the DE codex has been out for 10 years? Seems silly that they haven't been updated at all in that span of time...

THATS WHY DE NEEDS THE UPDATE!

Who the hell voted for Space Marines? Someone must have thought the thread title was "What army gets too many updates?" or something, only real explanation for that.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Chaos Marines - to make them back into actual Chaos Marines, not naughty Ultramarines w/Spikes.

Chaos Daemons - to erase the Codex from history and put its units into the Chaos Marine Codex.

I agree with this. The Lesser Daemons in the CSM codex sucks. I'd rather use the old codex.

Daemonhunters because Grey knights now have so many almost useless rules it's vexing. And they're too expensive/weak compared to others. Still love em but the need some fixin

And CSM. Recombine CSM and Daemons, or make them useable together, these summoned lesser daemons are ridiculous. Why can't CSM and Daemons join like DH, WH, SM and IG?
Also we need special legions. The fact that I can take 9 Oblitz, 2 Sorcs, 2 Squads of Ksons and lots of other randoms in a Zerker list annoys me. Mebe 3 Codexes that can all be used together? Loyalists get it.....

necrons: they're too awesome! if you are are marines player, if you shoot them with 10 men rapid firing chances are: 13 shots hit, 7 wound, 3 fail armour saves, then there the i'll be back rule: 1 or 2 necrons dead! what's up with that? if they were shooting at chaos, chances are 2 will die! chaos cost more, but are weaker. eh?

shrike wrote:necrons: they're too awesome! if you are are marines player, if you shoot them with 10 men rapid firing chances are: 13 shots hit, 7 wound, 3 fail armour saves, then there the i'll be back rule: 1 or 2 necrons dead! what's up with that? if they were shooting at chaos, chances are 2 will die! chaos cost more, but are weaker. eh?

Are you a total n00b or are you being sarcastic?

I would have to say Chaos Daemons.

A very broken army in many ways, not to mention there not fun at all to fight, in my opinion

My picks are Dark Eldar and Daemonhunters. They both really deserve a codex.
Dark Eldar may be competitive in games but they've gone 11 years without a new codex and look awful on the battlefield.
Daemonhunters look alright but aren't at all competitive.

Necrons, for rules cleanup.

Csm need a new codex for sure, we really got jipped out on the last one,

I mean who wants spiky sm with less equipment and no 'and they shall know no fear rule'

I haven't touched mine for years as a result.

I know de are in desperate need but I quite like the fact their characters are still uber, if they update them the characters will be weakened

omg please give the necrons a new codex that fixes the phase out or at least let you manage it or save or something. Its so crippling on a widely used and loved army, but so many players stop playing because you just cant win games as well as other races. I also put down dark eldar cause they need a new book and more importantly some 13 or 14 front armor vehicles. While im on dark eldar they need some more armor and defensive type things. I believe the codex says that this is not a assault force or a defense force, but a raiding party. I voted tau because i play them and the only reason why i did is they really didnt give us a big wow 5ed we basically have some nerfs some buffs and 2 new weapons, I guess i just expect more seeing what space marines get as far as options. I also voted orks, but the only reason why is cuase i think some of the foreworld stuff needs to to be put in the codex and giving a miniature. They put stuff in white dwarf all the time that makes ya all giddy and then you cant find the miniature anyware and cant use in most games. Still though Dark Eldar should have a codex update along time ago seeing as all the units and vehicles are not meant for 90 percent of games played by warhammer 40k. oh and why are we about to come out with another chapter space marine codex when we have whole armys that need updates. I mean lets say 1/3 of the player drop there present marines and go space wolves. Thats still no where near the number of necron and DE players that NEED a update. shame shame

My 2 extra cents: Just a thought but since Dark Eldar take prisoners all the time and even consolidate after assalting always to get prisoners. Why not have units or wargear set up so that when they take prisoners they use them as body shields or put a mindcontrol collar on said prisoners and send them off into there once friends. Now thats dark eldar fluff meeting the table game play.

Undoubtedly Dark Eldar and Daemonhunters. They're still on there 4th codexes (or is it Codi?)

It's codice.

I want to know what 16 (ATM) people voted Guard in most need of a new codex?
More in need than Necrons and Dark Eldar???

I'd vote for fixed Guard over Necrons or DEldar.

I'd like my Light Infantry, Drop Troops, and equipment upgrades back please.

I think that the Black Templars need an update as the rules for the land raider crusader are a bit dated, as the DH (and probably others) have better rules for the hurricane bolters on it

Personally I'd like to see the Inquisition get an update but I think the Dark Eldar players might need one more right now.

I'd prefer GW *not* overprice my ISTs, take away my Ld10 Psychic Hood, nor take away Mystics, TYVM.

DH/Inq should never be updated.

I Have to agree with Helbrecht and say our rules are a bit dated the Land Raider Crusader now has the same armor value as the others (as of new codex) and is no longer special as it should be. cause we found it not some other chapter on a crusade.

Helbrecht wrote:I think that the Black Templars need an update as the rules for the land raider crusader are a bit dated, as the DH (and probably others) have better rules for the hurricane bolters on it

You do know the daemonhunters codex is older than yours, the DH rules might have better but they are older. GW obviously decided to make the LR worse in newer codexes.

but the end-result is that most races are morally neutral.

First thing that came to my mind was a greater Daemon of slaanesh heheh.