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2011/01/29 03:41:18
Subject: Who else misses the old style sci fi art...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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that used to fill the pages of White Dwarf?
Check out more on my blog.
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http://dylangould.blogspot.com
Check out my blog, full of Rogue Trader models and art, as well as new Orks...
dorkamorka - mixing 40K and beer before it was cool. |
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2011/01/29 03:46:27
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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ROCKIT LAWN CHAIR.
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:penek wrote:wtf is wrong with GW ???
It's being run by people with short term vision and enough greed to extinguish a sun.
Perhaps they're the C'tan. |
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2011/01/29 03:59:23
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I do, that's why my loyalists are all beakies.
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2011/01/29 03:59:37
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[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
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"And then I swept down in my trusty chair and we took Borealis IV in the Emperor's name. It was glory my child...."
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Adepticon TT 2009---Best Heretical Force
Adepticon 2010---Best Appearance Warhammer Fantasy Warbands
Adepticon 2011---Best Team Display
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2011/01/29 04:00:28
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Damn kids, get off my lawn!!!!
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http://dylangould.blogspot.com
Check out my blog, full of Rogue Trader models and art, as well as new Orks...
dorkamorka - mixing 40K and beer before it was cool. |
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2011/01/29 04:01:02
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[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
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92acclude wrote:Damn kids, get off my lawn!!!!
That's a sweet RT era assassin on your site. Cool model to own with a nice paint job.
/Followed
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Adepticon TT 2009---Best Heretical Force
Adepticon 2010---Best Appearance Warhammer Fantasy Warbands
Adepticon 2011---Best Team Display
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2011/01/29 04:05:02
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks for the follow dude!
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http://dylangould.blogspot.com
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dorkamorka - mixing 40K and beer before it was cool. |
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2011/01/29 04:36:48
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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The old art was for the most part totally awful.
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
+From Iron Cometh Strength+ +From Strength Cometh Will+ +From Will Cometh Faith+ +From Faith Cometh Honor+ +From Honor Cometh Iron+
The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
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2011/01/29 04:49:49
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Hacking Shang JÃ
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Reminds me of the art of that guy who drew for RIFTS.
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"White Lions: They're Better Than Cancer!" is not exactly a compelling marketing slogan. - AlexHolker |
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2011/01/29 05:09:51
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Truth be told... not really... I am starting to miss a lot of the old hand drawn stuff...
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"True immortality is not how long you live, but what you do with the time you have. What will you be remembered for?"
"Deeds, not words, are the speech of Angels."- Nick Kyme |
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2011/01/29 05:33:36
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
As opposed to the current stuff that has skulls on skulls with skull-shaped eye-sockets, all covered in spikes.
All of the humour is gone.
All of the in-jokes are gone.
When did this absurd game get Americanised and get all po-faced serious?
(As in the USA are incapable of doing SF farce. US Red Dwarf bombed - the UK was legendary. US SF is all deadly serious nowadays. Bring back the Quark era.).
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2011/01/29 05:46:39
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Regular Dakkanaut
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chromedog wrote:ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
As opposed to the current stuff that has skulls on skulls with skull-shaped eye-sockets, all covered in spikes.
All of the humour is gone.
All of the in-jokes are gone.
When did this absurd game get Americanised and get all po-faced serious?
(As in the USA are incapable of doing SF farce. US Red Dwarf bombed - the UK was legendary. US SF is all deadly serious nowadays. Bring back the Quark era.).
You hit it on the head.
The US stuff is homogenized PR speak. Which is dreadfully boring. Same for the art.
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dorkamorka - mixing 40K and beer before it was cool. |
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2011/01/29 05:48:59
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
Australia
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Heheh...wait, you mean Quark from DS9 right?
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4th company
The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
I'll die before I surrender Tim! |
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2011/01/29 06:15:18
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Nope.
I mean the adventures of the intergalactic garbage scow.
THAT Quark.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2011/01/29 06:21:48
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
I think it was more the case with the first edition stuff, they had so many pieces of art to do to fill rulebooks etc. and had to draw in stuff from all different artists (hence the rather eclectic mix of styles and materials).
I agree that some of its not as technically 'perfect' as modern GW art, but it has a hell of a lot more character. Look at the cover of the 40k compendium (or it might be compilation? I always get confused - the one with BA fighting genestealers) and compare it to the new BA codex. Absolutely incomparable, although I recognise these things are subjective, I would put money on the 20 year old book cover trumping the modern one for most people.
And as Chromedog says, the modern stuff is all spikes and screaming bald men. I understand the need to keep the vision of the fantasy universe within tightly confined borders, but the downside of this is that it cramps the style of the artists, so we just end up with piece after piece which is just a slight variation of the previous one, and something instantly forgettable.
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2011/01/29 07:41:25
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm tired of the Ultramarines getting all the cool rocket-lawn-chairs, when will GW quit stuffing those space-smurfs down our throat!
I remember when I actually still had that same model. It was the old metal Land Speeder form 2nd edition. When did the current style get released, 3rd or 4th?
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Found it:
Not quite as bad as the picture, but I liked it. I was mad when the new model came out. Automatically Appended Next Post: Found the 1st Ed Land Speeder, compared to it the original picture doesn't look to bad:
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2011/01/29 12:18:35
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
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2011/01/29 15:03:24
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So good.
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http://dylangould.blogspot.com
Check out my blog, full of Rogue Trader models and art, as well as new Orks...
dorkamorka - mixing 40K and beer before it was cool. |
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2011/01/29 18:57:39
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Even if a lot of the old art wasn't as technically good as modern 40k art, it has a certain charm to it. I enjoy every period of GW art, from those old linedrawings straight out of 2000 AD to John Blanche paintings to the more realistic style we've got now. I even like that weird handful of pieces that are really obviously based on photographs, like the one with Space Marine Scarface.
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2011/01/29 19:08:02
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Plastictrees
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Some people seem to be confusing content with style. I think the artists these days have a lot less control over the "look" than the artists in the early days of Warhammer.
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2011/01/29 19:10:20
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Imperial Knight
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If we look at a certain horrible BL cover artist I'd say there's a lot of control over what they crank out.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2011/01/29 19:17:06
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Bryan Ansell
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Howard A Treesong wrote:ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
Bravo!
Time has not been kind to most of the old art but the fantasy stuff can still hold its own and is more atmospheric and evocative. Like the minis, things have moved on.
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2011/01/29 20:02:05
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Fixture of Dakka
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I love the old Ian Miller stuff.
I was actually hoping that this thread would be about stuff like this:
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2011/01/29 21:44:03
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It certainly can be about that old art. I grab old sci fi books purely for the cover art.
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http://dylangould.blogspot.com
Check out my blog, full of Rogue Trader models and art, as well as new Orks...
dorkamorka - mixing 40K and beer before it was cool. |
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2011/01/30 01:32:37
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Howard A Treesong wrote:ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
[decent image]
ph34r wrote:most part
Good job on the reading comprehension guys. You never fail to impress.
Come on:
vs
Sure there were old gems, but most of it was just... uhg. A cursory glance through your old Rogue Trader or Chapter Approved may make you realize how low-qual most of the old art was.
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ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau
+From Iron Cometh Strength+ +From Strength Cometh Will+ +From Will Cometh Faith+ +From Faith Cometh Honor+ +From Honor Cometh Iron+
The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence. |
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2011/01/30 18:04:48
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte
Ohio, United States
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A lot of the old stuff has vitality that can be found in outsider and underground art. It related to pulp fantasy and sci-fi punk comics like 2000 AD that inspired the tone of 40k in the first place. It's gritty, crude, and cartoony, and lively!
The super-detailed, technically accomplished illustrations are also great, though. The best ones are like old renaissance paintings, which contributes to the "ancient future" feel of the setting. Plus, you just don't see stuff that richly drawn very often. I've seen plenty of art direction that embraced a cartoon look to cut corners, rather than because it served the material.
In closing, beakies rule.
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2011/01/30 18:18:17
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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The old stuff is pretty bad and disappointing.
@ ph34r
Only the last 2 images are really that good.
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malfred wrote:Buy what you like.
Paint what you love. |
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2011/01/30 18:41:54
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Bryan Ansell
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ph34r wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:ph34r wrote:The old art was for the most part totally awful.
[decent image]
ph34r wrote:most part
Good job on the reading comprehension guys. You never fail to impress.
Come on:
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Sure there were old gems, but most of it was just... uhg. A cursory glance through your old Rogue Trader or Chapter Approved may make you realize how low-qual most of the old art was.
The only difference is the colour....
The older art seems more spontaneous and honest a reflection of the 40k universe, as was. The newer stuff is just a tad too sterile (think advertising).
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2011/01/30 21:10:42
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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the old stuff looks god awful, next thing people will be saying how awesome blanche is, personally i think all blanches work looks like a childs drawing of a transvestite
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2011/01/30 23:22:48
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte
Ohio, United States
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Blanche's stuff creeps me the hell out. BUT, I also think that's the point.
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