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This is just how I keep my game turns and movement fast. I've found that my game turns take less time then most of my opponents. Many people have commented in not wanting to play a green tide list because of the overwhelming amount of models to move, and how long it actually takes to move. Most of my game turns are under ten minutes and that is with shooting and assaulting. I hope you guys find this helpful in some way... Enjoy

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfuywjc7KXE

This link should work if the other doesn
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lfuywjc7KXE

Camera guy kinda needs to keep his finger out of the lense/look at whats being done lol.

What size board are you guys playing on? You look like youre reaching his lines as fast as a trukk list does for me (4by6ft board)

ditto 6 by 4 here too but some lucky and some not so lucky runs i can see moving 12 at times get you really fast up.

ive never ran a green tide before but i asked his board size cuz every time i hoof any number of boyz they dont get very far, whether theyre being fired upon or not.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but anyone can move their models that fast by running in the movement phase instead of the shooting phase. If your opponents are cool with it it's fine, but where I play it is frowned upon (and simply forbidden in tournaments), making the green tide virtually impossible to play with limited time. :/

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Didn't really burst my bubble. I wasn't saying I was the fastest ork mover in the Wild West, just simply how I make my moves and keep my turn times down.

Yeah I've never had an issue with running in the shooting phase... Truly makes zero difference considering they would be running first in the shooting phase anyway lol.




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As far as the board size... It was a 4x6. Evil sunz got a 6 inch run on turn one and my blood axes got a 5 inch run on turn one... Also I got first turn so nothing got blown back off the table yet.

i took 20 orks and 15 grots to killteam and it was just a silly idea

 Nym wrote:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but anyone can move their models that fast by running in the movement phase instead of the shooting phase. If your opponents are cool with it it's fine, but where I play it is frowned upon (and simply forbidden in tournaments), making the green tide virtually impossible to play with limited time. :/

Really?

Where would that be, by chance?

I highly agree with weighting the bases. I use 1" washers with the shiny smooth side down. They glide really well over battlemats and felt; cloth terrain. And they're cheaper than nickels

P.S. you are supposed to Jink before armor penetration rolls, so right after he rolls to hit.

I always ask if it's ok to roll my run during the movement phase for the first and second turns in tournaments and have never been told no. There's no advantage other than your saving time

 labmouse42 wrote:
Where would that be, by chance?

France of course... We call that "cultural exception", and it sucks. The reason people usually give is "It's too easy to abuse. You could say you didn't run with a squad that actually ran, etc..." or just "dura lex sed lex" meaning that if it's written in the rules, you just have to play it by the rules.

 Nym wrote:

 labmouse42 wrote:
Where would that be, by chance?

France of course... We call that "cultural exception", and it sucks. The reason people usually give is "It's too easy to abuse. You could say you didn't run with a squad that actually ran, etc..." or just "dura lex sed lex" meaning that if it's written in the rules, you just have to play it by the rules.

Interesting. How do you say, "You are a Tool" in french?
It's almost like they know if you move all the models one by one, at least twice each turn, that you won't get to play a full game, which is an advantage to gunlines...

-Matt

 Nym wrote:
France of course... We call that "cultural exception", and it sucks. The reason people usually give is "It's too easy to abuse. You could say you didn't run with a squad that actually ran, etc..." or just "dura lex sed lex" meaning that if it's written in the rules, you just have to play it by the rules.

Wow, thank's for the heads up. It's interesting to learn that people in France play like that.

In the US, we tend to be a lot more laid back about the game, and everyone I know will let you do the 'run' move while you are moving your models to save time.

To be fair with my compatriots, I'm only speaking for my particular LGS (and region, since my LGS is pretty much the only one in the region who hosts Warhammer games).

When I played my psudo green tide, all I did was measure the front precisely and then eyeball the rest of the unit. Worked pretty well after I got used to judging 6 inches by sight and was really fast.

Any tips on this are welcome bc this has been one of my biggest frustrations playing orks,
I'm so uneasy when u'r opponent is waiting bored etc.

My problem is also with the shooting face, too much dice to roll, too much counting to do, etc.

btw the video won't load, could you post the link again or pm it?

This discussion is as old as the orks themselves.....brings a tear to my eyes

There realy is not alot you can do other then be as fast as you can, dont start thinking of your turn when it starts think about it during your opponents, dont chat during your turn, try and keep as many of your mobs in orderly rows so that you can move them all the same distance by eye, when rolling dice use managable amounts multiple times instead of rolling 30 dice at one go, finally when you roll dice roll the softly dont bounce them all over the board. Do all that and you games will be much faster, not fast but perhaps you will be able to finish.

its not that hard to keep track which group ran which didnt by doing this....green tides usually do something to split their armies up by looking at the bases or the models themselves so they dont accidentally merge some into another group. I paint the bases diff colors....gotta admit it does make forming my army a little longer cuz im filtering through a ball of orky bodies trying to find Light blue bases lol

 Vineheart01 wrote:
its not that hard to keep track which group ran which didnt by doing this....green tides usually do something to split their armies up by looking at the bases or the models themselves so they dont accidentally merge some into another group. I paint the bases diff colors....gotta admit it does make forming my army a little longer cuz im filtering through a ball of orky bodies trying to find Light blue bases lol

I painted all the arm bands into squad colors. But ya I have to show up early to sort out the orks before my games as well.

my 2c
They also make movement trays, I would look for the ones that space the orks out at least a inch if not the full 2. Then use them in either 5 man bases or 10 man bases so as the boys die you can pull the trays off to free up space on the table.

My buddy uses big metal plates painted green to move his orks -- which all have magnatized bases.

Its not perfect, and sometimes he can't use the movement plates, but often enough he can just drop em down on a board and shuffle the models as one.

I just took a whippy stick and cut it in a straight 6" length. Show my opponent before the game its the right length, and I'm good to go. It's crazy how much easier it is to move using the 6" stick instead of whipping that tape measurer out again and again.

My other trick is to group my dice up before hand so I know how many there are, and knowing basic math. Let's say I have 25 red dice, and I have 60 shoota boy shots. I drop 5 dice and then roll the group three times. Pick up failures, count the hits, then roll em again.

And of course, planning out what you're going to do during your opponent's turn never hurts either.


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Also, if you're able to use movement trays often on your tables., you're not playing with nearly enough terrain. I don't think I would've been able to use a tray once at my store.

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
I just took a whippy stick and cut it in a straight 6" length. Show my opponent before the game its the right length, and I'm good to go. It's crazy how much easier it is to move using the 6" stick instead of whipping that tape measurer out again and again.

My other trick is to group my dice up before hand so I know how many there are, and knowing basic math. Let's say I have 25 red dice, and I have 60 shoota boy shots. I drop 5 dice and then roll the group three times. Pick up failures, count the hits, then roll em again.

And of course, planning out what you're going to do during your opponent's turn never hurts either.


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Also, if you're able to use movement trays often on your tables., you're not playing with nearly enough terrain. I don't think I would've been able to use a tray once at my store.

the flames of war template works well for that as well, plus it has a 4" and 2" side. useful for spacing out the boys for large blast armies.

We use the roll for density so we will often have under 10 pieces of terrain. We roll bad for that stuff

Yea i pulled out a 6inch hard ruler to move my boyz and the more veteran players in my group laughed their ass off (brought back memories)

im like what, im moving 6 inches why do i wanna pull out that big hulky tape measure?

T-rex wrote:


My problem is also with the shooting face, too much dice to roll, too much counting to do, etc.

I use a dice roller app for my ipad/iphone called Gamer Dice when I have to roll over 20 dice. It can break down dice rolls into the number of 5's and 6's you rolled. I miss the visceral thrill of rolling dice, but its worth it to save the time.

Kinda why I would rather play Fantasy Orcs TBH.

Those movement trays are kinda sweet.

Ehh...i could see someone complaining about using an app for dice.
I keep my dice in groups of 5 when its not my turn so when i need them i just grab them since i know how much is in each spot.
Comes in handy when a 30x Shootaboy squad is completely in range rofl (63 shots including bigshootas)

 NinjaStars wrote:

T-rex wrote:


My problem is also with the shooting face, too much dice to roll, too much counting to do, etc.

I use a dice roller app for my ipad/iphone called Gamer Dice when I have to roll over 20 dice. It can break down dice rolls into the number of 5's and 6's you rolled. I miss the visceral thrill of rolling dice, but its worth it to save the time.

I would never trust one of those programs! Machine spirits are fickle beings.

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 Che-Vito wrote:

 Bonesnapper wrote:

 NinjaStars wrote:

T-rex wrote:


My problem is also with the shooting face, too much dice to roll, too much counting to do, etc.

I use a dice roller app for my ipad/iphone called Gamer Dice when I have to roll over 20 dice. It can break down dice rolls into the number of 5's and 6's you rolled. I miss the visceral thrill of rolling dice, but its worth it to save the time.

I would never trust one of those programs! Machine spirits are fickle beings.

Or it's the next Big Thing. Playing 40k in the future is an integrated electronic playland.

There's this crazy new thing called video games...